Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby tapitsbo » Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:38 pm

I agree that it is undesirable to refer to people as weapons, yet there are entire demographics of young people - several of these - who are being conceived of as a threat and denied freedom of association as well as other political rights. Refugees aren't the only group being portrayed as inherently dangerous or as a weapon.

The decision of Trudeau's government to not take single male refugees rhymes eerily with the self identified anarcha-feminist who once told me that she belived women should be removed from the MENA and the men genocided.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby backtoiam » Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:50 pm

Occult Means Hidden:

We are blaming George Soros, IMF and the EU for advancing and advocating the real economic benefits of free migration when it has been liberal policy for decades. From radical leftists who despised the state and wanted to break all borders and welcome foreigners into their home land, to moderate liberals armed with economic data showing the positive effects immigration has on an economy, their detractors were conservative rightists.


This is not typical "immigration" as in people willfully leaving their neighborhood to seek a better life. These are people that have been unwillingly flushed from their own homes and are being used as pawns, as a means to further ends, that we will only fully understand in hindsight.

You see what the "end" was for the San Bernadino shooting was right? It was probably about unlocking iphones all along. Means to an end.

If this is the way our liberal benevolent progressive globalist thinkers (or whatever label they are hiding behind today) spread "fairness and equality" across the land then....no thanks...I hope they stop spreading "fairness and equality" across the land sometime soon.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Occult Means Hidden » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:22 pm

Backtoiam quotes

This is not typical "immigration" as in people willfully leaving their neighborhood to seek a better life. These are people that have been unwillingly flushed from their own homes


I agree. They aren't immigrants, they are refugees. As I have been paying attention to America's wars, I consistently hear the liberal leftists argue that America would accept the refugees of those whom they have brought war upon. Even as recent as Syria, Obama was criticized by Republicans for even considering acceptance of refugees. I don't know if you are trying to disprove this thesis but you cannot. Liberals have drove migrant acceptance, and have for decades.

and are being used as pawns, as a means to further ends, that we will only fully understand in hindsight.


No evidence they are being used as pawns. That thesis is very shaky. Certainly you don't need a conspiracy to convince people to move to where it is safe, when they escape war.

You see what the "end" was for the San Bernadino shooting was right? It was probably about unlocking iphones all along. Means to an end.


Is it planned prelude or reaction to happenstance? Good luck trying to prove planned prelude. Consistently believing so without evidence inclines one to believe that it is impossible that some things happen without being coordinated by American intelligence agencies, Zionists, or whoever. That's a slippery frame of mind.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby FourthBase » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:33 pm

Bless OMH's soul for the refreshing intellectual integrity and moral consistency. Thank you for the reminder that there are still decent, honest, rigorous people on this board.

There's a lot of competition, but this thread is maybe the most disgusting in RI history, not so much because of the usual hardly-cloaked Jew-hatred driving it but because of the way that multiple core values and theories are being not just discarded but inverted in order to clear a path for the Jew-hatred. This place is turning less into a tinfoil complement to RevLeft than a leftist twin of Stormshit. Has it always been this way?
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby backtoiam » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:41 pm

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Liberals have drove migrant acceptance, and have for decades.


Acceptance? I hope these brilliant and benevolent "liberals" don't keep "accepting" people then. These same trash talkers are responsible for bombing these people out of their homes. The only thing slippery about this slope is the tortured definitions of the words and the ruling elite who use them as they hide behind their respective labels.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Occult Means Hidden » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:43 pm

FourthBase » Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:33 pm wrote:Bless OMH's soul for the refreshing intellectual integrity and moral consistency. Thank you for the reminder that there are still decent, honest, rigorous people on this board.



Thank you for your kind words.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby tapitsbo » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:53 pm

The flip side of migration is displacement - who will the refugees themselves blame for their plight? Liberalism? Or, more likely, imperialist wars and neo-colonialist puppet governments that have impoverished them? In the case of the wars, who is driving the machine? Cui bono?

Argue these are wars to provide oil to rich folks in the north and you would be right to some extent - but this overlaps with yet is not identical to the divide and conquer strategy used against possibilities for peace in Eurasia. And once again, it's impossible to discount that there just might be something to the perhaps hyperbolic thread title.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby Occult Means Hidden » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:58 pm

backtoiam » Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:41 pm wrote:
occult means hidden:
Liberals have drove migrant acceptance, and have for decades.


Acceptance? I hope these brilliant and benevolent "liberals" don't keep "accepting" people then. These same trash talkers are responsible for bombing these people out of their homes. The only thing slippery about this slope is the tortured definitions of the words and the ruling elite who use them as they hide behind their respective labels.


Oh please. Have you ever met an anti-war liberal like myself? Who called for Nicaraguan refugees to be accepted into America after America's cynical overthrow of their government? Who called for America to accept Iraqis displaced so they can have homes and a new and fresh chance at life. It isn't liberals by name only. Fascists have always hated foreigners. Frankly, this is well understood and requires no further debate. You are talking about something else entirely.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby tapitsbo » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:04 pm

Turkey and Jordan, for example, aren't liberal but they take refugees. UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Israel, though?

Is the contention here that SLAD's linked article series is impolite? Or that it is incorrect?
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby backtoiam » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:47 pm

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Oh please. Have you ever met an anti-war liberal like myself? Who called for Nicaraguan refugees to be accepted into America after America's cynical overthrow of their government? Who called for America to accept Iraqis displaced so they can have homes and a new and fresh chance at life. It isn't liberals by name only. Fascists have always hated foreigners. Frankly, this is well understood and requires no further debate. You are talking about something else entirely.


Apparently so. I am talking about real live human beings who are using force and coercion to flush people out of their own homes and countries. These same people opine loudly about the safety and security of the "migrants" as they steer them right into the jaws of military contractors with christian and jewish sounding religious names. It is more than fair to point these people out. Not only is it fair, its the decent human thing to do.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby DrEvil » Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:43 pm

Who are these "military contractors with christian and jewish sounding religious names"?

Links? Sources? Anything? And what does someone's name have to do with anything? Is having a Jewish name a bad thing?

Also - for once I completely agree with Fourthbase, and thank you to OMH for being clear-eyed and calling out the bullshit.
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby backtoiam » Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:48 pm

DrEvil » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:43 pm wrote:Who are these "military contractors with christian and jewish sounding religious names"?

Links? Sources? Anything? And what does someone's name have to do with anything? Is having a Jewish name a bad thing?

Also - for once I completely agree with Fourthbase, and thank you to OMH for being clear-eyed and calling out the bullshit.



Nice.... Notice I said "christian and jewish sounding religious names." Yes I have the names of these groups. I'm just waiting on this to heat up some more before I start flipping these into the thread. Its coming though, I promise....
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby tapitsbo » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:01 pm

How did FourthBase call out bullshit? To my eyes all he did was cast vague aspersions.

American Dream at least argued against SLAD's material, you guys are avoiding any response, really
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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:40 pm

The lead singer has left the stage/building leaving his backup singers to carry on in a kinder gentler wordsmither McCarthyskier performance well worth the price of admission. :)

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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:10 pm

FourthBase » Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:33 pm wrote:There's a lot of competition, but this thread is maybe the most disgusting in RI history, not so much because of the usual hardly-cloaked Jew-hatred driving it but because of the way that multiple core values and theories are being not just discarded but inverted in order to clear a path for the Jew-hatred.


I thought that already at the title - surely the most repulsive in history. Already tells enough. The Jews sending the Mooslims to rape our daughters, therefore make the Mooslims drown and kill the responsible liberals. Oh wait, it's okay to say all that because Soros. Let's just keep an open mind.

I just gave in and clicked this for the first time.

This place is turning less into a tinfoil complement to RevLeft than a leftist twin of Stormshit. Has it always been this way?


What do you mean, leftist? Just because you're on an anti-left kick now, don't confuse it. A lot of these guys who have taken over this board in the last year are Stormshit, isn't it kind of obvious? There are a couple of genuinely naive older members who buy into any crap that comes out, either out of constant blinding anger (who do I mean?) or because "open mind you never know reality's not what it seems I still hurt from being called a mean name 30 years ago, blah blah why not flat earth, etc." But fellow travelers, morons/dupes, submarines, no excuses. No really, no excuses. No one's this stupid. This is just the Euro-racist populist hate shit-mix rewarmed with a few RI cliches and pretend-Buddhist-mystical-astral-plane-love spritzed on as perfume.

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