Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Sounder » Tue May 10, 2016 3:28 pm

Before that meeting, John H. Gibbons, the former director of the White House Office’s of Science and Technology Policy, had warned Mrs. Clinton about Mr. Rockefeller, who had spent years pressuring the government to release files relating to a 1947 crash at a ranch near Roswell, N.M., that had become the source of theories about a cover-up of an alien spaceship. He will “want to talk to you about his interest in extrasensory perception, paranormal phenomena and U.F.O.s,” Mr. Gibbons wrote.


I find it appropriate and amusing that Mr. Rockefeller, though interested, has no better access or understanding of 'shady' topics than do the rest of us.

Showing yet again that money cannot buy everything.

Mrs. Clinton believes that her backing is so robust, that there is no way she can lose.

In this world that may be true, but the world changes and fair numbers of, want to be liberal types do realize that it is very non-liberal to poison the Earth and undermine and destroy villages the whole world over.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby NeonLX » Tue May 10, 2016 3:58 pm

I got a Hillary supporter madder than hell at me. He kept throwing the old "a vote for Bernie is a vote for Trump" line at me, which I responded that it's not my fault that the DNC has chosen to anoint a neoliberal warhawk as their nominee, and that in polls, Bernie does better against Trump than $hillary. The dude went into a frothing rage, to which I answered, "My party, right or wrong, eh?" Jeezuz.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Sounder » Tue May 10, 2016 8:05 pm

I have never met a Hillary supporter, and think that her 'base' is quite a bit smaller than the lying media tells us it is.

It is kind of sad and ironic that conservative types are repudiating their neo-con repub leadership with much more vigor than liberals, who are theoretically less cowed by and under the spell of authority.

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby 82_28 » Tue May 10, 2016 10:06 pm

100% of everyone I have spoken to about this and no real debates or nuthin' like that, just I don't know of anyone who likes her. At all.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby PufPuf93 » Tue May 10, 2016 11:39 pm

I sure don't meet many people that support Hillary Clinton in meat life.

There is almost zero Clinton campaign paraphernalia in Humboldt county.

The Democrats and other liberals I know are aghast at Clinton and Trump.

Many rural folks support Trump and I am surprised at how many Indians support Trump.

Most young folks local to my home seem oblivious to the election.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Tue May 10, 2016 11:45 pm

I know a fucking shit-ton of people who -- earnestly -- support Hillary and are quite proud about their realism.

Like, probably a hundred, easily.

Just interjecting because my personal experience is totally counter to what I'm reading here.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby 82_28 » Tue May 10, 2016 11:56 pm

That be surprising since you be in Vermontistan. I know of no one in Seattle who likes her. I see lots of Sanders stickers even on big trucks. Not a single Hillary sticker have I seen. Weird nonetheless you being where you are.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby PufPuf93 » Wed May 11, 2016 12:10 am

82_28 » Tue May 10, 2016 8:56 pm wrote:That be surprising since you be in Vermontistan. I know of no one in Seattle who likes her. I see lots of Sanders stickers even on big trucks. Not a single Hillary sticker have I seen. Weird nonetheless you being where you are.


I live way rural in Indian country but have made two visits to Humboldt Bay (Eureka / Arcata; 95 mile drive) and another day with a friend going to the beaches and redwood groves at Redwood National Park in the last month and have not seen a solitary Clinton bumper sticker nor sign and Trump and Sanders paraphernalia is common.

In 2008 there was Hillary Clinton gear but that was to be expected at racism against blacks is alive and well in redneck rural Humboldt county and among the Indian community.

The two Clinton supporters I know too well and they are both retired university educated women who came here as US Forest Service employees 30 plus years ago and never left. The pair put their sainted input wanted or not into just about every community event. Unfortunately one married and had a child with one of my best friends from our 20s. She shows up at my house looking for him just about every time he visits. Unfortunately, I was one of the two person selection committee that offer her a job in 1977. The she never left and married my friend on his rebound from his first marriage later.

The counter culture pot growers and organic farmers are apolitical or for Sanders.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Luther Blissett » Wed May 11, 2016 1:50 pm

I have mentioned it, and I thought I knew a lot of Clinton supporters…but what I know are Sanders supporters who are scared of Trump and have picked up that Blue No Matter Who hashtag. They've quieted down a bit, I think the whole "incrementalism is right wing retrenchment" thing has won out.

There are a few true dyed-in-the-wool Clinton supporters. Of the two most vocal that I can think of, both are in tech. One is a man who works for IBM in Austin and the other is a woman who runs her own startup in Manhattan. But I would say there's a type…rich, neoliberal and technocratic.

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby zangtang » Wed May 11, 2016 2:34 pm

because no actual ideas, principles?
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby 82_28 » Wed May 11, 2016 2:54 pm

Numero uno for me and just on admittedly the most facile of levels I really cannot stand her voice. And then it goes from there, the reasons I don't approve of her.

I just never want to hear her voice again. If it comes down to TRUMP and Clinton, I think I will be driven insane even with the comedy coverage.

All the good comedy shows definitely have the Trump impersonations down though, I will say that.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Nordic » Wed May 11, 2016 3:09 pm

Lee Camp represents the entire Fourth Estate in the US regarding this issue.

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby JackRiddler » Wed May 11, 2016 3:45 pm

Untrue.

May 9, 2016
Hillary Clinton Versus Bernie Sanders: Taking Election Fraud Allegations Seriously (Part 1)
by Doug Johnson Hatlem
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/09/ ... ly-part-1/

May 10, 2016
Hillary Clinton vs. Bernie Sanders: Debunking Some Election Fraud Allegations
by Doug Johnson Hatlem
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/10/ ... legations/

May 11, 2016
An Interview With Lead Edison Exit Pollster Joe Lenski
by Doug Johnson Hatlem
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/11/ ... oe-lenski/

May 11, 2016
Hillary Clinton vs Bernie Sanders: In-depth Report on Exit Polling and Election Fraud Allegations
by Doug Johnson Hatlem
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/11/ ... legations/

As for Lee Camp, good man though he is, I wish he would change his horrible delivery. Way annoying, that voice he does. Jokes are infantile, unfunny, self-discrediting, and wtf with that laugh track! Frustrating that you can't send his video to anyone you want to take it seriously.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Nordic » Wed May 11, 2016 3:59 pm

I agree, it's like he's trying too hard to do a Jon Stewart-like shtick. It just gets in the way.

I don't think the "it's not true" posts you listed above cover the real estate scam he discusses in the last video I posted.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby JackRiddler » Wed May 11, 2016 7:34 pm

Could be, can't stand to click on him. I was thinking of the conventional election fraud thing he did last week that got all the social media action (relatively speaking). Which I couldn't forward to skeptics because of the schtick, so I went and found the original Chicago BoE video.
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