stickdog99 » 21 Jun 2016 00:21 wrote:FourthBase » 20 Jun 2016 21:53 wrote:stickdog99 » 20 Jun 2016 11:33 wrote:Not a TRANSCRIPT!
Words become things.
Here's the thing. I just woke up. I haven't even read the FUCKING "transcript" yet.
But here is my prediction. Either the transcript is a transcript of somebody other than Mateen calling 911 or else Mateen was a player in a shadow government plot who got played or both.
It's the same story every time. If you are even marginally Muslim, the feds seemingly have all the time and the money in world to set you up. If you suffer from some sort of mental illness, you go to the front of the list.
If you can't fathom this by now, your shirt is too brown.
Not so much a "prediction" as a conviction that will be confirmed to you no matter what. If people aren't as unwaveringly pre-convinced as you it doesn't mean they're less able or less willing to fathom depths and it doesn't mean they're fascists. You might just not be right. Not a notion that probably occurs to you much or ever, right?
You know, it's funny how you and your type here alternate between Certainty is Fascist! and Skepticism is Fascist!, depending on whether what we're certain of or skeptical of matches your groupthink enough.
1. You don't know what groupthink is.
Yeah, actually, I do.
2. You believe US-born Muslims are uniquely predisposed to mass murder not because of any rational evidence but because of groupthink, the very groupthink I am trying to fight a very lonely and completely asymmetrical battle against.
Yes, correct. I do believe that.
Oh, wait, you weren't talking about Islamic groupthink?
3. Your groupthink is the exact kind of groupthink that led to the Japanese concentration camps in WWII.
No, I don't fuck with groupthink. I'm anti-groupthink, in both principle and method. This isn't grade school. "I know you are but what am I?" is not a compelling argument.
Ask 100 random people who are rational, open-minded, well-informed (conventionally or not), and intelligent to read a representative sample of this board and rank the members by groupthinkiness. Guess which clique would top the list by a fucking mile. The one you belong to. The cult of infinite cynicism.
Who the fuck is talking about concentration camps? Were tens of thousands of Japanese nationals still invited to immigrate here relatively unscreened? How many temples were there here where pro-Emperor demagogues preached against America? If there were any, should they not have been scrutinized? How many Japanese terrorists killed how many American civilians? What kind of groupthink led to Japanese fascism, Japanese war crimes, Japanese kamikaze attacks? How many violent Nazi fanatics among the German-American population would it have taken before you'd start to suspect there's something fundamentally wrong with whatever the dominant German culture was at the time?
4. I am just playing Henry Fonda's role in 12 Angry Men.
Only in your own twisted head. Everyone in your clique probably feels the same way about themselves a la South Park's Yelpers, lol.
I am not certain of anything except that people who believe "the other" is uniquely evil just because the corporate media and the waterboys of our oligarchy tell them to have always frightened the living crap out of me.
Only in your twisted head do any of those people post here.
Mateen may indeed be a guilty deranged mass shooter who acted alone.
I can tell you really mean that.
He was American born and bred after all, and we put the rest of the world to shame when it comes to breeding mass shooters.
But how do you really know that any of those mass shooters really were who the media say they were?
But if you first claim to be a member of Hezbollah and then you pledge your allegiance to ISIS, your Muslim terrorist card gets revoked, and you become just another run of the mill American rampage killer. Wouldn't you agree?
No, I don't agree. It's like doubting that a legit white supremacist would ever be a member of both Aryan Nation and the KKK.
