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Re: Soros was a Nazi informant?

Postby Burnt Hill » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:04 pm

^ Yes, I cant criticize a 14 year old, but that last paragraph (is it the last paragraph? I couldn.t find a full transcript)
can be interpreted at least as unapologetic.
But even if that is the full interview, it would be out of context as a barometer of the man's entire life.
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Re: Soros was a Nazi informant?

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:08 pm

backtoiam » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:57 pm wrote:But Soros chooses to stand out there so he should be fair game like everybody else. He is a news maker in his own right by his own choice. Its ok to discuss Kissinger but not Soros for some reason.


What passes for "discussion" of the former is not about the billionaire or the financer of largely suspect NGOs, but your Nazi slash fiction.



slimmouse » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:01 pm wrote:Actually Jack, I heard it within the last 24 hours.


Google was down for the weekend, perhaps? Is RI your research service?
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Re: Soros was a Nazi informant?

Postby backtoiam » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:46 pm

jack you got your quotes backwards. I didn't make that comment. slim did.

What passes for "discussion" of the former is not about the billionaire or the financer of largely suspect NGOs, but your Nazi slash fiction.



I didn't write this one either.
Actually Jack, I heard it within the last 24 hours.
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Re: Soros was a Nazi informant?

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:29 pm

Quote attribution corrected.
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Re: Soros was a Nazi informant?

Postby slimmouse » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:24 pm

Heres the thing Jack.

As a 14 year old child I would be prepared to forgive anyone for any attempt to survive the insanity that was going on around them.

But when you give an interview as a 70 + year old man, who has power and influence the entire world over, and tell us that you dont regret that, then fuck you George, along with all the fucking idiots that try and pretend that this didnt happen and he didnt say recently what he said..

The lunatics are running this place and Soros is one of em.
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Re: Soros was a Nazi informant?

Postby American Dream » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:45 pm

We seem to be having a little bitty problem with confirmation bias around here, though Soros is indeed a member in good standing of the ruling/owning class. Problem is, there are many, many more of him and they've got a whole social system perpetuating the bad behavior by individual members...
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Re: Soros was a Nazi informant?

Postby slimmouse » Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:06 pm

American Dream wrote:We seem to be having a little bitty problem with confirmation bias around here, though Soros is indeed a member in good standing of the ruling/owning class. Problem is, there are many, many more of him and they've got a whole social system perpetuating the bad behavior by individual members...


Absolutely. Our entire culture is being screwed up by the lunatics who have risen to the top and are telling us that this is how the world works, courtesy of any number of lies and deceptions that we are subjected to on a daily basis.


Yet these people are supposed to be human?

I just dont get it.

Soros is a parasite of the worst order, along with a few others.
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Re: Soros was a Nazi informant?

Postby Sounder » Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:09 pm

This thread title sucks, I didn't know we were a click bait site.

One thing though about Mr Soros teen experience is the likelihood of him being inoculated from feeling the suffering of others. His dreams of 'universality' do not seem to care about the suffering created to get there.


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How George Soros Singlehandedly Created the European Refugee Crisis—and Why

Guest Post by David Galland and Stephen McBride, Garret/Galland Research
George Soros is trading again.

The 85-year-old political activist and philanthropist hit the headlines post-Brexit saying the event had “unleashed” a financial-market crisis.
Well, the crisis hasn’t hit Soros just yet.

He was once again on the right side of the trade, taking a short position in troubled Deutsche Bank and betting against the S&P via a 2.1-million-share put option on the SPDR S&P 500 ETF.

More interestingly, Soros recently took out a $264 million position in Barrick Gold, whose share price has jumped over 14% since Brexit. Along with this trade, Soros has sold his positions in many of his traditional holdings.

Soros had recently announced he was coming out of retirement, again.

First retiring in 2000, the only other time Soros has publicly re-entered the markets was in 2007, when he placed a number of bearish bets on US housing and ultimately made a profit of over $1 billion from the trades.

Since the 1980s, Soros has actively been pursuing a globalist agenda; he advances this agenda through his Open Society Foundations (OSF).
What is this globalist agenda, and where does it come from?

The Humble Beginnings

The globalist seed was sowed for young George by his father, Tivadar, a Jewish lawyer who was a strong proponent of Esperanto. Esperanto is a language created in 1887 by L.L. Zamenhof, a Polish eye doctor, for the purpose of “transcending national borders” and “overcoming the natural indifference of mankind.”

Tivadar taught young George Esperanto and forced him to speak it at home. In 1936, as Hitler was hosting the Olympics in Berlin, Tivadar changed the family name from Schwartz to Soros, an Esperanto word meaning “will soar.”

George Soros, who was born and raised in Budapest, Hungary, benefited greatly from his father’s decision.
Allegedly, in 1944, 14-year-old George Soros went to work for the invading Nazis. It is said that until the end of the war in 1945, he worked with a government official, helping him confiscate property from the local Jewish population.

In an 1998 interview with 60 Minutes, Soros described the year of German occupation as “the happiest time in my life.”

Soros’s Venture into Finance

When the war ended, Soros moved to London and in 1947 enrolled in the London School of Economics where he studied under Karl Popper, the Austrian-British philosopher who was one of the first proponents of an “Open Society.”

Soros then worked at several merchant banks in London before moving to New York in 1963. In 1970, he founded Soros Fund Management and in 1973 created the Quantum Fund in partnership with investor Jim Rogers.

The fund made annual returns of over 30%, cementing Soros’s reputation and putting him in a position of power—one he utilizes to this day to advance the agenda of his mentors.

The Currency Speculations That Threw Britain and Asia into Crisis

In the 1990s, Soros began a string of large bets against national currencies. The first was in 1992, when he sold short the pound sterling and made a $1 billion profit in a single day.

His next big currency speculation came in 1997. This time Soros singled out the Thai baht and, with heavy short-selling volume, destroyed the baht’s artificial peg to the US dollar, which started the Asian financial crisis.

“Humanitarian” Efforts
Today, Soros’s net worth stands at $23 billion. Since taking a back seat in his company, Soros Fund Management, in 2000, Soros has been focusing on his philanthropic efforts, which he carries out through the Open Society Foundations he founded in 1993.
So who does he donate to, and what causes does he support?

During the 1980s and 1990s, Soros used his extraordinary wealth to bankroll and fund revolutions in dozens of European nations, including Czechoslovakia, Croatia, and Yugoslavia. He achieved this by funneling money to political opposition parties, publishing houses, and independent media in these nations.

If you wonder why Soros meddled in these nations’ affairs, part of the answer may lie in the fact that during and after the chaos, he invested heavily in assets in each of the respective countries.

He then used Columbia University economist Jeffrey Sachs to advise the fledgling governments to privatize all public assets immediately, thus allowing Soros to sell the assets he had acquired during the turmoil into newly formed open markets.


Having succeeded in advancing his agenda in Europe through regime change—and profiting in the process—he soon turned his attention to the big stage, the United States.

The Big Time
In 2004, Soros stated, “I deeply believe in the values of an open society. For the past 15 years I have been focusing my efforts abroad; now I am doing it in the United States.”

Since then, Soros has been funding groups such as:

• The American Institute for Social Justice, whose aim is to “transform poor communities through lobbying for increased government spending on social programs”
• The New America Foundation, whose aim is to “influence public opinion on such topics as environmentalism and global governance”
• The Migration Policy Institute, whose aim is to “bring about an illegal immigrant resettlement policy and increase social welfare benefits for illegals”

Soros also uses his Open Society Foundations to funnel money to the progressive media outlet, Media Matters.

Soros funnels the money through a number of leftist groups, including the Tides Foundation, Center for American Progress, and the Democracy Alliance in order to circumvent the campaign finance laws he helped lobby for.

Why has Soros donated so much capital and effort to these organizations? For one simple reason: to buy political power.
Democratic politicians who go against the progressive narrative will see their funding cut and be attacked in media outlets such as Media Matters, which also directly contribute to mainstream sites such as NBC, Al Jazeera, and The New York Times.

Apart from the $5 billion Soros’s foundation has donated to groups like those cited above, he has also made huge contributions to the Democratic Party and its most prominent members, like Joe Biden, Barack Obama, and of course Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Best Friends with the Clintons
Soros’s relationship with the Clintons goes back to 1993, around the time when OSF was founded. They have become close friends, and their enduring relationship goes well beyond donor status.

According to the book, The Shadow Party, by Horowitz and Poe, at a 2004 “Take Back America” conference where Soros was speaking, the former first lady introduced him saying, “[W]e need people like George Soros, who is fearless and willing to step up when it counts.”
Soros began supporting Hillary Clinton’s current presidential run in 2013, taking a senior role in the “Ready for Hillary” group. Since then, Soros has donated over $15 million to pro-Clinton groups and Super PACs.

More recently, Soros has given more than $33 million to the Black Lives Matter group, which has been involved in outbreaks of social unrest in Ferguson, Missouri, and Baltimore, Maryland, in 2015. Both of these incidents contributed to a worsening of race relations across America.
The same group heavily criticized Democratic contender Bernie Sanders for his alleged track record of supporting racial inequality, helping to undercut him as a competitive threat with one of Hillary Clinton’s most ardent constituencies.

This, of course, greatly enhances the clout Soros wields through the groups mentioned above. It is safe to assume that he is now able to drive Democratic policy, especially in an administration headed by Hillary Clinton.

Simply, what Soros wants, he gets. And it’s clear from his history that he wants to smudge away national borders and create the sort of globalist nightmare represented by the European Union.

In recent years, Soros has turned his attention back to Europe. Is it a coincidence that the continent is currently in economic and social disarray?
Another Home Run: the Ukrainian Conflict

There’s no doubt about Soros’s great influence on US foreign policy. In an October 1995 PBS interview with Charlie Rose, he said, “I do now have access [to US Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott]. There is no question. We actually work together [on Eastern European policy].”
Soros’s meddling reared its ugly head again in the Russia-Ukraine conflict, which began in early 2014.

In a May 2014 interview with CNN, Soros stated he was responsible for establishing a foundation in the Ukraine that ultimately led to the overthrow of the country’s elected leader and the installation of a junta handpicked by the US State Department, at the time headed by none other than Hillary Clinton:

CNN Host: First on Ukraine, one of the things that many people recognized about you was that you during the revolutions of 1989 funded a lot of dissident activities, civil society groups in Eastern Europe and Poland, the Czech Republic. Are you doing similar things in Ukraine?

Soros: Well, I set up a foundation in Ukraine before Ukraine became independent of Russia. And the foundation has been functioning ever since and played an important part in events now.

The war that ripped through the Ukrainian region of Donbass resulted in the deaths of over 10,000 people and the displacement of over 1.4 million people. As collateral damage, a Malaysia Airlines passenger jet was shot down, killing all 298 on board.

But once again Soros was there to profit from the chaos he helped create. His prize in Ukraine was the state-owned energy monopoly Naftogaz.
Soros again had his US cronies, Secretary of the Treasury Jack Lew and US consulting company McKinsey, advise the puppet government of Ukraine to privatize Naftogaz.

Although Soros’s exact stake in Naftogaz has not been disclosed, in a 2014 memo he pledged to invest up to $1 billion in Ukrainian businesses, but no other Ukrainian holdings have since been reported.

His Latest Success: the European Refugee Crisis

Soros’s agenda is fundamentally about the destruction of national borders. This has recently been shown very clearly with his funding of the European refugee crisis.

The refugee crisis has been blamed on the civil war currently raging in Syria. But did you ever wonder how all these people suddenly knew Europe would open its gates and let them in?

The refugee crisis is not a naturally occurring phenomenon. It coincided with OSF donating money to the US-based Migration Policy Institute and the Platform for International Cooperation on Undocumented Migrants, both Soros-sponsored organizations. Both groups advocate the resettlement of third-world Muslims into Europe.

In 2015, a Sky News reporter found “Migrant Handbooks” on the Greek island of Lesbos. It was later revealed that the handbooks, which are written in Arabic, had been given to refugees before crossing the Mediterranean by a group called “Welcome to the EU.”

Welcome to the EU is funded by—you guessed it—the Open Society Foundations.

Soros has not only backed groups that advocate the resettlement of third-world migrants into Europe, he in fact is the architect of the “Merkel Plan.”
The Merkel Plan was created by the European Stability Initiative whose chairman Gerald Knaus is a senior fellow at none other than the Open Society Foundations.

The plan proposes that Germany should grant asylum to 500,000 Syrian refugees. It also states that Germany, along with other European nations, should agree to help Turkey, a country that’s 98% Muslim, gain visa-free travel within the EU starting in 2016.

Political Discourse

The refugee crisis has raised huge concern in European countries like Hungary.

In response to 7,000 migrants entering Hungarian territory per day in 2015, the Hungarian government reestablished border control in order to keep the hordes of refugees from entering the country.

Of course this did not go down well with Soros and his close allies, the Clintons.
Bill Clinton has since come out and accused both Poland and Hungary of thinking “democracy is too much trouble” and wanting to have a “Putin-like authoritarian dictatorship.”

Seeing through Clinton’s comments, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán responded by saying, “The remarks made about Hungary and Poland … have a political dimension. These are not accidental slips of the tongue. And these slips or remarks have been multiplying since we are living in the era of the migrant crisis. And we all know that behind the leaders of the Democratic Party, we have to see George Soros.”

He went on to say that “although the mouth belongs to Clinton, the voice belongs to Soros.”


Soros has since said of Orbán’s policy toward the migrants: “His plan treats the protection of national borders as the objective and the refugees as an obstacle. Our plan treats the protection of refugees as the objective and national borders as the obstacle.”

It’s hard to imagine that he could be any clearer in his globalist intentions.

The Profit Motive
So why is Soros going to such lengths to flood Europe with hordes of third-world Muslims?

We can’t be sure, but it has recently come to light that Soros has taken a large series of “bearish derivative positions” against US stocks. Apparently, he thinks that causing chaos in Europe will spread the contagion to the United States, thus sending US markets spiraling downward.
The destruction of Europe through flooding it with millions of unassimilated Muslims is a direct plan to cause economic and social chaos on the Continent.

Another example of turmoil equaling profit for George Soros, who seems to have his tentacles in most geopolitical events.

We all understand correlation is not causation. However, given Soros’s extraordinary wealth, political connections, and his long track record of seeing and profiting from chaos, he is almost certainly a catalyst for much of the geopolitical turmoil now occurring.

He is intent on destroying national borders and creating a global governance structure with unlimited powers. From his comments directed toward Viktor Orbán, we can see he clearly views national leaders as his juniors, expecting them to become puppets that sell his narrative to the ignorant masses.

Soros sees himself as a missionary carrying out the globalist agenda taught to him by his early mentors. He uses his vast political connections to influence government policy and create crises, both economic and social, to further this agenda.

By all appearances, Soros is conspiring against humanity and is hell-bent on the destruction of Western democracies.

To any rational thinker, some global events just don’t make sense. Why, for example, would Western democracies take in millions of people whose values are completely incompatible with their own?

When we look closely at the agenda being actively promoted by the leading globalist puppet master, George Soros, things become a little clearer.
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Re: Soros was a Nazi informant?

Postby The Consul » Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:08 pm

People are saying George Soros talked Hillary Clinton out of having a sex change and in so doing she became his own personal zombie. Not saying it's true, but what if it is? People are also saying that Dinesh D'sousa has penetrating insight into reality of the deep state. But people are also saying Donald Trump is also a kind of Hillary zombie, but is he witting or unwitting? You decide! Not only is the world unwarming, but it's fucking flat! Could this realization solve all our problems and dispense for the very existence of RI?
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Re: Soros was a Nazi informant?

Postby Sounder » Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:23 am

People are saying George Soros talked Hillary Clinton out of having a sex change and in so doing she became his own personal zombie. Not saying it's true, but what if it is? People are also saying that Dinesh D'sousa has penetrating insight into reality of the deep state. But people are also saying Donald Trump is also a kind of Hillary zombie, but is he witting or unwitting? You decide! Not only is the world unwarming, but it's fucking flat! Could this realization solve all our problems and dispense for the very existence of RI?



That is fine word smithery The Consul, but how does that address the article or George Soros prominence in world affairs, or his seeming lack of empathy possibly resulting from his early conditioning?

It is always the creepiest people that make a big show of their 'goodness'. Why do so many fall for the ruse?
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Re: Soros was a Nazi informant?

Postby Rory » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:53 am

Sounder » Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:23 am wrote:
People are saying George Soros talked Hillary Clinton out of having a sex change and in so doing she became his own personal zombie. Not saying it's true, but what if it is? People are also saying that Dinesh D'sousa has penetrating insight into reality of the deep state. But people are also saying Donald Trump is also a kind of Hillary zombie, but is he witting or unwitting? You decide! Not only is the world unwarming, but it's fucking flat! Could this realization solve all our problems and dispense for the very existence of RI?



That is fine word smithery The Consul, but how does that address the article or George Soros prominence in world affairs, or his seeming lack of empathy possibly resulting from his early conditioning?

It is always the creepiest people that make a big show of their 'goodness'. Why do so many fall for the ruse?


Roundup in the vaccines, dude.Blinds you to the truth about right and wrong
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Re: Soros was a Nazi informant?

Postby Searcher08 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:41 am

Some responses to Soros

1 Sure he hangs with BAD PEOPLE and is not a good guy; I will however still post dozens of articles by his paid shills.

2 He is just a VICTIM of the FAR RIGHT, whose treatment of him is just a cover for VIRULENT ANTI-SEMITISM.

3 TRUMP OUT! TRUMP OUT! TRUMP OUT!

4 He is no different from ANY of the other Pay to Play billionaires (like the Koch Brothers) and certainly doesn't deserve any special attention.

5 Open Society Foundations does lots of funding of organisation I support, like Black Lives Matter, so I have no problem with him.

6 The Far Right don't like him - if you also don't like him, you are therefore a FAR RIGHT TIN-FOIL WEARING BATSHIT-INSANE-ANTI-SCIENCE-VAXXER, who hates logic

7 Soros is worth analysing and researching and exposing in depth and given the full "R.I. treatment" - if you have to ask "Why?" then you have done so little research that St Jeff of The Wells would roll his saintly eyes to Heaven / Unspecified Vertical Realm...
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Re: Soros was a Nazi informant?

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:32 pm

That list is disingenuous. The Soros-obsessed present him as the only agent, a "puppet-master" solely responsible for developments that actually require whole ruling classes, industries, states and ideologies. What would have been different if there had been no Soros?

Capitalism would still work the way it does (the way he sometimes actually describes it as working, when he plays the intellectual). Without Soros, the pound would still have dropped against the mark and some other bond vigilantes would have seized the windfall. (Quick, who were the bond vigilantes who attacked the franc during Mitterand's attempt at Keynesianism? They made billions in windfall by financial aggression, when they saw they could. Why can't any of us name them?)

For all the causes Soros supports, when did his support not rhyme with State Department policy? And when did his support make the difference? There is a whole world of NGOs beyond those he funds, and many of them with the same thrust. I'm not saying Soros' initiatives never made a difference, I'm saying you can rarely know for sure when and how they did; and furthermore, you can know that the big outlines of history would have run the same way.

Without Soros, the EU would have expanded and put through EMU. The Berlin wall would have fallen, the post-communist regimes in Russia and Eastern Europe would have privatized their economies and overseen many years of plunder and oligarch-mafioso rule. The Asian bubble would have popped. The bubbles would have kept popping.

Did Soros select Bush? US-UK would have invaded Iraq, initiating the disintegration of the Middle East. The Arab peoples would have risen up against their regimes. The oil kingdoms would have struck back with U.S. backing. The wars in Ukraine and Syria would still be happening. The refugees would still be fleeing conflicts all over the planet. The nationalist paranoids would still be hating the refugees and blaming some theoretical dark forces for sending the refugees by plan. The left would still be calling the nationalist paranoids racists and Islamophobes.

The article like the one posted by Sounder above, with its Soros-driven monocausal theory of history, largely based on the work of the demented David Horowitz, is fucking insane. Unlike with the article's failure to point out that Horowitz is an ultra-hardcore Likudnik, however, among the Soros-obsessives the "Zionist" tag as the primary label for Soros is never far behind. That's why he's so much more a subject for the Soros-obsessives than the Kochs, Gates, Zuckerberg (though I'm waiting for that one), Carlos Slim, or the Davos set generally. He's no more credible than any of them as a lone evil mastermind driving all political events according to his own plan, but he's so very Jewish! And also configures as "liberal," whatever that means.

Soros has been "treated" on this site all the time, for many years, there are many threads -- why the proliferation with this one and its pretend-naive, odious titling? (That's rhetorical because it's obvious.)
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Re: Soros was a Nazi informant?

Postby Harvey » Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:00 pm

^That.

One of the keys to Soros is right there in the interview above although it seems unremarkable and pragmatic, common place across the world and on this board.

"If I don't, someone else will."

There have been times when I didn't, though someone else did. I'm unrepentant. There were times when I did and someone else didn't. I'm mostly regretful. You don't know what you'll choose until you're there. Who would dare judge him for surviving? He was a child. How could that experience not have been deeply formative? Over my lifetime reaction to Soros has been so thoroughly mediated I wouldn't want to form an opinion on the basis of the information available. What would be the use?
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Re: Soros was a Nazi informant?

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:29 pm

Let us not talk of Rockefellers or Fords and their foundations, of the money invested to change and rule the world already generations ago and its impact today.

Let us talk of prominent billionaire types engaged actively and openly in projects of changing politics and society of the present generation. Let's take a couple of examples for comparison, in the hope of better understanding how things actually work.

Submitted: Out of Gates, the Kochs, and Soros, the actual impact of their separate efforts to influence politics and society, independently of how things might have developed without them, has been greatest with Gates, and far, far greater with both Gates and the Kochs than with Soros. Debate and discuss.
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