Will someone watch the debate with me?

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Re: Will someone watch the debate with me?

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:57 pm

in regards to not paying taxes

"that make me smart"

in regards to Clinton

"she doesn't have the look"

"Rosy deserves it"
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Re: Will someone watch the debate with me?

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:04 am

Mousse-olini vs. Thievita
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Re: Will someone watch the debate with me?

Postby Iamwhomiam » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:18 am

I'm suffering from the consequence of having unmet expectations. I was sure a lightning bolt would annihilate all on stage. Oh, well. Holt should never be allowed to again moderate a presidential debate; he was terrible as moderator.

The debate was a Clinton win, but by no means a knock out. Trump's performance was crude, as expected and he not once answered a question Holt asked him. I was surprised a bit by Trump's response to being sued by the US Dept. of Justice for racial discrimination, "We settled and there was no admission of guilt." His pathetic alibi for not releasing his taxes was astounding, just as was his evasion of taking responsibility for continuing to promote the birther meme long after 2011 in answering Holt's question, "Why?"
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Re: Will someone watch the debate with me?

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:09 am

first words out of Stephanie Miller's mouth this morning ...COCAINE! :P

Debate brought to you by Mucinex :P


400 lb man...Chris Christie :P

Trump says they gave him a defective mike :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


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Howard Dean Just Accused Donald Trump of Being on Cocaine During the Debate
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Notice Trump sniffing all the time. Coke user?
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and I am just stuck with hash and wine ..quit teasing me Trump
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Re: Will someone watch the debate with me?

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:46 am

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Will someone watch the debate with me?

Postby 8bitagent » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:45 pm

I'd much rather win the final debate, than the first. As we saw with Reagan v Mondale in 1984 or Obama v Romney in the 2012 debates.

Not sure why Hillary's destruction of Libya, DNC cheating of Bernie, Clinton taking in tens of millions of money from terror funding Saudi Arabia, ect wasn't mentioned.
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Re: Will someone watch the debate with me?

Postby Luther Blissett » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:48 pm

8bitagent » Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:45 pm wrote:I'd much rather win the final debate, than the first. As we saw with Reagan v Mondale in 1984 or Obama v Romney in the 2012 debates.

Not sure why Hillary's destruction of Libya, DNC cheating of Bernie, Clinton taking in tens of millions of money from terror funding Saudi Arabia, ect wasn't mentioned.


Because those are the causes of the people, not causes tied to money. No one with enough money to buy a voice would insert that nonsense into a debate.
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Re: Will someone watch the debate with me?

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:49 pm

Trump was more concerned about himself.....he took the bait from Clinton and ran with it with no time left to mention her faults.....he didn't prep
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Re: Will someone watch the debate with me?

Postby slimmouse » Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:14 pm

seemslikeadream » 27 Sep 2016 20:49 wrote:Trump was more concerned about himself.....he took the bait from Clinton and ran with it with no time left to mention her faults.....he didn't prep


Two Psycopaths slugging it out.

How encouraging for humanity.
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Re: Will someone watch the debate with me?

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:15 pm

yep that's what we are stuck with ....

but it's not really a new thing

people are freaking out like this is all such a novel experience
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Re: Will someone watch the debate with me?

Postby slimmouse » Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:27 pm

seemslikeadream » 27 Sep 2016 21:15 wrote:yep that's what we are stuck with ....

but it's not really a new thing

people are freaking out like this is all such a novel experience


.For sure, which is why it dissapoints me so that so many on RI are even taking sides

Intelligence agencies spend a lot of our money ensuring that this nonsense happens.
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Re: Will someone watch the debate with me?

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:29 pm

we are just commiserating on who is the worst :P
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Re: Will someone watch the debate with me?

Postby slimmouse » Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:42 pm

seemslikeadream » 27 Sep 2016 21:29 wrote:we are just commiserating on who is the worst :P


In which case I suggest that this is a further waste of taxpayers money ?
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Re: Will someone watch the debate with me?

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:52 pm

American taxes paying for RI?
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Re: Will someone watch the debate with me?

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:29 pm

Mother Superior vs. ranting schoolboy
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by Pepe Escobar for Sputnik International

The temptation is irresistible to conceptualize the Clinton Machine’s strategy going into the first US presidential debate; let Donald Trump metastasize into a pretzel. Mission not impossible; in fact, accomplished.

Sniffin’ and slidin’, beepin’ and sippin’, angrily chokin’, even swoopin’ on the mike to choreograph a blow, “Donald” (as addressed by “Secretary Clinton”) fell for every shape and size of bait thrown by a canny, relentlessly focused and rehearsed-to-death, Yale-trained, Lawyerly Mother Superior. Freud, Jung and Lacan must have shed tears of joy in their heavenly pad watching the Ego-unraveling show.

While Secretary Clinton controlled the debate, Donald could not even control his temper; but this being The Donald, it did not prevent him from launching an out of left field self-elegy to his “temperament”.

The latest installment of the longest job interview on the planet, played out in a deep blue stage with white stars featuring an American eagle with an – out of place – olive branch, may have qualified as wild, wacky TV at its apex.

Yet on the Donald front it was mostly painful to watch. Stream of consciousness non-sequiturs ruled, as in, “I have a son who’s 10, he’s so good with computers” – running commentary on US cyber-security vulnerability.

But then, from a global public opinion point of view, there’s geopolitics – something that vastly infantilized swathes of Americans consider at best a big, meaningless word. Yet Secretary Clinton herself was keen to emphasize, “words matter”.

So let’s see how (and if) geopolitical words made sense at the Trump/Hillary cage match.

Trump defuses WWIII

Donald demonized mostly China (on trade) and Iran, while Secretary Clinton forcefully demonized Russia and Iran. North Korea and terrorism were also on the cards; thus both sides amply paid tribute to the Pentagon’s top five 21st century “existential threats” to the American eagle.

Trump’s view of China seems to come from someone reading Sun Tzu on LSD; “You look at what China’s doing to our country in terms of making our product, they’re devaluing their currency and there’s nobody in our government to fight them … They’re using our country as a piggy bank to rebuild China, and many other countries are doing the same thing.”

Beijing is not practicing quantitative easing (QE); actually it’s the US, Japan and Germany who do.

Unfortunately Donald did not elaborate on climate change; a November 7, 2012 Trump tweet ruled that global warming was invented by China to devastate the US manufacturing industry.

On the other hand Trump may have – indirectly – validated China’s One Belt, One Road (OBOR), a.k.a. The New Silk Roads, which are all about infrastructure upgrading; “You land at La Guardia, Newark, L.A.X., and you come in from Dubai and Qatar, you come in from China, you see these incredible airports, we’ve become a third-world country.”

Donald blamed Secretary Clinton for turning Iran into a “major power” – a shtick that may have been written by dodgy casino mogul Sheldon Adelson (in the audience, and courted like a monarch). He described the Iran nuclear deal as “one of the worst deals made by any country in history”, insisting “$400 million in cash” were part of the deal, and Hillary’s responsible. Donald knows it because “I met with Bibi Netanyahu the other day”.

China and Iran are related in varying degrees to the New Silk Roads and of course the pivot to Asia, which was first announced by Hillary. So she had to say, “I want to reassure our allies in Japan and South Korea and elsewhere that we have mutual defense treaties and we will honor them”. Crucial add-on; “Our word is good”. Asians, as demonstrated in the last G20 in China, are not impressed.

On NATO, Trump said the Atlanticist monolith must engage in direct counterterrorism operations in the Middle East. NATO actually has a Defense Against Terrorism program for 12 years now. The problem is the priorities are regime change – from Libya to Syria; keeping the heroin flowing from Afghanistan; and not giving a damn about “moderate rebels”.

Trump did promise to make NATO follow the money: “They have to understand I’m a business person”. Allies “are not paying their fair share.”

Secretary Clinton went no holds barred emphasizing Trump has been “praiseworthy of Vladimir Putin”. Trump: “Wrong”. He could have qualified, if he was not sniffin’ so hard; in a March 20 debate, Trump said, “Putin is a strong leader, absolutely. He is a strong leader. Now I don’t say that in a good or bad way. I say it as a fact.”

It went virtually unnoticed. But Trump, in one sentence, actually may have ruled out WWIII if he becomes President; “I would certainly not do first-strike” – as in the official US doctrine, reiterated by Obama, that guarantees a US first nuclear strike. Secretary Clinton did not comment.

I want my Pyongyang Tower

Donald seems to have found a solution to North Korea; “You look at North Korea, we’re doing nothing there. China should solve that problem for us. China should go into North Korea. China is totally powerful as it relates to North Korea.” Crucial add-on; Iran also “has power over North Korea”.

Now imagine a three-way summit involving Xi Jinping, Ayatollah Khamenei and Kim Jong-un debating Trump’s deal, which might throw in a Trump Hotel and Casino Pyongyang for good measure.

Secretary Clinton was adamant that “Donald supported the invasion of Iraq.” Trump: “Wrong”. Actually, right; he did, already in 2002. But

“that is a mainstream media nonsense put out by her!”

Donald was adamant that “President Obama and Secretary Clinton created a vacuum for ISIS.” Actually, Hillary might have been “fighting ISIS your entire adult life”. Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn has not briefed Donald properly; he meant al-Qaeda in Iraq – which sprang up as a direct consequence of Bush’s “Mission Accomplished”. Its spin-off, ISIS/ISIL/Daesh, fully emerged only in 2014, when Hillary was already out as Secretary of State. So Donald was not able to explain how the emergence of ISIS was a willful decision taken by official Washington.

It was on the theme of cyber-attacks on the US that Secretary Clinton finally managed to – subtly – conflate the Pentagon’s three “existential threats” who happen to be closely involved in Eurasia integration; Russia, China and Iran.

Expanding in one sweep from cyberspace to Full Spectrum Dominance, she said, “whether it’s Russia, China, Iran, or anybody else, the United States has much greater capacity. And we are not going to sit idly by and permit state actors to go after our information, our private sector information or our public sector information.”

Donald stressed, “whether [the DNC hack] was Russia, whether that was China, whether that was another country, we don’t know”. Technically correct. That did not prevent Secretary Clinton from doubling down; “I was so shocked when Donald publicly invited Putin to hack into Americans. That is just unacceptable.”

Highway to Hell

So, in a nutshell, Donald may have landed only two good blows; on NAFTA and dodgy trade deals, an on the absolute mess in the Middle East exacerbated by Obama/Clinton. Nothing though on the Clinton Foundation – which benefits handsomely from Persian Gulf direct/indirect supporters of Salafi-jihadism.

In the end, do all these words matter, as Hillary herself stressed? Hardly. An alleged victory by knock down in the first debate may be just a blip in the race. Secretary Clinton won’t conquer new votes beyond the “basket of deplorables” spectrum as much as Donald won’t conquer new votes among white-collar whites.

We might as well have seen the sanctimonious Lawyerly Mother Superior expelling the sniffin’ and slidin’, rantin’ and whinin’ billionaire schoolboy bully from class – to some variant of highway to hell. But next time he won’t be so easily pretzelled out. In this most irrational of political contests, stream of consciousness may even have the last word; “I have better judgment than she does…There’s no question about that. I also have a much better temperament than she has, you know? I have a much better – she spent – let me tell you – she spent hundreds of millions of dollars on advertising – you know, they get Madison Avenue into a room, they put names – oh, temperament, let’s go after – I think my strongest asset, maybe by far, is my temperament. I have a winning temperament. I know how to win. She does not have a…”

http://thesaker.is/mother-superior-vs-r ... schoolboy/
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