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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:32 pm

If 538 would turn their skills on their own bullshit, they'd figure out it's all a big joke and always wrong... until October before a presidential election. Silver got started in sports, watching the bouncing ball and predicting its trajectories. But then the final score actually approaches. That, they tend to be very good at. And here are the unsurprising results, if you had ignored the bouncing ball for the last few months: White people just aren't stupid enough, on average.

Source: FiveThirtyEight

Donald Trump’s strategy in this campaign has been fairly clear from the beginning: Drive up Republican support among white voters in order to compensate for the GOP’s shrinking share among the growing nonwhite portion of the electorate. And Trump has succeeded in overperforming among a certain slice of white voters, those without a college degree. But overall, the strategy isn’t working. Trump has a smaller lead among white voters than Mitt Romney did in 2012, and Trump’s margin seems to be falling from where it was when the general election began.

Four years ago, Romney beat President Obama among white voters by 17 percentage points, according to pre-election polls. That was the largest winning margin among white voters for any losing presidential candidate since at least 1948. Of course, even if Trump did just as well as Romney did, it would help him less, given that the 2016 electorate will probably be more diverse that 2012’s. And to win — even if the electorate remained as white as it was four years ago — Trump would need a margin of 22 percentage points or more among white voters.

But Trump isn’t even doing as well as Romney. Trump is winning white voters by just 13 percentage points, according to an average of the last five live-interviewer national surveys.1 He doesn’t reach the magic 22 percentage point margin in a single one of these polls.

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Luther Blissett » Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:37 pm

JackRiddler » Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:32 pm wrote:
Source: FiveThirtyEight

But Trump isn’t even doing as well as Romney. …


Compare passions between the two campaigns. Is Silver a human person.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:03 pm

Utah polygamists, radical feminists and even Pokemon Go players are among the many passionately engaged groups that also do not translate into electoral majorities. Piccaccio would also lose this election, though it would probably be closer than it will be for Trump.

Then again, there was a scenario wherein Piccaccio became world emperor, so what do I know? (Not the best episode of Black Mirror, but damn it was fun)

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Harvey » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:21 pm

JackRiddler » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:33 am wrote:.

It's mistaken to tie your hopes on any individual. Great artists, maybe.

Any of you care to imagine what would be left of your mind after four or five years of being trapped in an "embassy" that consists of a single apartment? How much space does he have? You think he gets to pace around the ambassador's office during off-hours? Does he get to order takeout, and what does that involve in terms of dangers? Can he answer the door himself? Not a second outside, and probably very little chance if any to masturbate. It's not Guantanamo, true. Which was sort of his motivation to hide out there in the first place! I'm sure he's had quite a few screaming fits, and I'm not considering that with the least Schadenfreude. He's sacrificed a lot more and accomplished a lot more in the realm of politics than all of us here together, I shall presume to say.

So now he's at least mildly more nuts than he was to begin with, which was already moderately nuts, and stuck on a permanent one-sided revenge kick against Clinton and the DNC. Could be worse. How well do you figure you would be doing, oh reader?

That still doesn't mean he's a Putin puppet, or that the DNC oriented leaks are coming from Russia or the post-KGB, or that he's wrong when he observes that the DNC and US media are running a neo-McCarthyite campaign (since they don't want to directly address Trump as the All-American beast that he is). It still does not mean that he's not right in about 90% of the observations I've heard from him since his asylum stay began, or that the UN rapporteurs who said he's effectively a political prisoner are not also correct. That still doesn't make him worse than the DNC itself, of course. Or the British authorities who are keeping him trapped in that box.

Let's keep things in proportion. If nothing else on the scale of the Manning revelations ever comes from him, those will earn him a proper and on balance positive paragraph or two in the history books (at least the fair and balanced ones, ha ha).

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My thoughts exactly but too tired to post last night. (Re: the isolation. Chew me up, but I lived it in a way that I can't explain here and it is fucking difficult to overcome, but it can be done with the will and the perspective and the encouragement) Nevertheless, a serious tactical mistake even if he really has the goods. Even then, he may be losing his own audience. Patience is in order of course, but the deadlines and the postponements etc aren't helping.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:20 pm

Against Donald Trump
For the third time since The Atlantic’s founding, the editors endorse a candidate for president. The case for Hillary Clinton.

THE EDITORS NOVEMBER 2016 ISSUE POLITICS

In october of 1860, James Russell Lowell, the founding editor of The Atlantic, warned in these pages about the perishability of the great American democratic experiment if citizens (at the time, white, male citizens) were to cease taking seriously their franchise:

In a society like ours, where every man may transmute his private thought into history and destiny by dropping it into the ballot-box, a peculiar responsibility rests upon the individual … For, though during its term of office the government be practically as independent of the popular will as that of Russia, yet every fourth year the people are called upon to pronounce upon the conduct of their affairs. Theoretically, at least, to give democracy any standing-ground for an argument with despotism or oligarchy, a majority of the men composing it should be statesmen and thinkers.
One of the animating causes of this magazine at its founding, in 1857, was the abolition of slavery, and Lowell argued that the Republican Party, and the man who was its standard-bearer in 1860, represented the only reasonable pathway out of the existential crisis then facing the country. In his endorsement of Abraham Lincoln for president, Lowell wrote, on behalf of the magazine, “It is in a moral aversion to slavery as a great wrong that the chief strength of the Republican party lies.” He went on to declare that Abraham Lincoln “had experience enough in public affairs to make him a statesman, and not enough to make him a politician.”

Perhaps because no subsequent candidate for the presidency was seen as Lincoln’s match, or perhaps because the stakes in ensuing elections were judged to be not quite so high as they were in 1860, it would be 104 years before The Atlantic would again make a presidential endorsement. In October of 1964, Edward Weeks, writing on behalf of the magazine, cited Lowell’s words before making an argument for the election of Lyndon B. Johnson. “We admire the President for the continuity with which he has maintained our foreign policy, a policy which became a worldwide responsibility at the time of the Marshall Plan,” the endorsement read. Johnson, The Atlantic believed, would bring “to the vexed problem of civil rights a power of conciliation which will prevent us from stumbling down the road taken by South Africa.”


The Atlantic has endorsed only three presidential candidates in 159 years. Abraham Lincoln (1860) and Lyndon B. Johnson (1964) were the first two. (Alexander Gardner / Getty; ullstein bild / Getty)
But The Atlantic’s endorsement of Johnson was focused less on his positive attributes than on the flaws of his opponent, Barry Goldwater, the junior senator from Arizona. Of Goldwater, Weeks wrote, “His proposal to let field commanders have their choice of the smaller nuclear weapons would rupture a fundamental belief that has existed from Abraham Lincoln to today: the belief that in times of crisis the civilian authority must have control over the military.” And the magazine noted that Goldwater’s “preference to let states like Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia enforce civil rights within their own borders has attracted the allegiance of Governor George Wallace, the Ku Klux Klan, and the John Birchers.” Goldwater’s limited capacity for prudence and reasonableness was what particularly worried The Atlantic.

We think it unfortunate that Barry Goldwater takes criticism as a personal affront; we think it poisonous when his anger betrays him into denouncing what he calls the “radical” press by bracketing the New York Times, the Washington Post, and Izvestia. There speaks not the reason of the Southwest but the voice of Joseph McCarthy. We do not impugn Senator Goldwater’s honesty. We sincerely distrust his factionalism and his capacity for judgment.
Today, our position is similar to the one in which The Atlantic’s editors found themselves in 1964. We are impressed by many of the qualities of the Democratic Party’s nominee for president, even as we are exasperated by others, but we are mainly concerned with the Republican Party’s nominee, Donald J. Trump, who might be the most ostentatiously unqualified major-party candidate in the 227-year history of the American presidency.

These concerns compel us, for the third time since the magazine’s founding, to endorse a candidate for president. Hillary Rodham Clinton has more than earned, through her service to the country as first lady, as a senator from New York, and as secretary of state, the right to be taken seriously as a White House contender. She has flaws (some legitimately troubling, some exaggerated by her opponents), but she is among the most prepared candidates ever to seek the presidency. We are confident that she understands the role of the United States in the world; we have no doubt that she will apply herself assiduously to the problems confronting this country; and she has demonstrated an aptitude for analysis and hard work.

Donald Trump, on the other hand, has no record of public service and no qualifications for public office. His affect is that of an infomercial huckster; he traffics in conspiracy theories and racist invective; he is appallingly sexist; he is erratic, secretive, and xenophobic; he expresses admiration for authoritarian rulers, and evinces authoritarian tendencies himself. He is easily goaded, a poor quality for someone seeking control of America’s nuclear arsenal. He is an enemy of fact-based discourse; he is ignorant of, and indifferent to, the Constitution; he appears not to read.


This judgment is not limited to the editors of The Atlantic. A large number—in fact, a number unparalleled since Goldwater’s 1964 campaign—of prominent policy makers and officeholders from the candidate’s own party have publicly renounced him. Trump disqualified himself from public service long before he declared his presidential candidacy. In one of the more sordid episodes in modern American politics, Trump made himself the face of the so-called birther movement, which had as its immediate goal the demonization of the country’s first African American president. Trump’s larger goal, it seemed, was to stoke fear among white Americans of dark-skinned foreigners. He succeeded wildly in this; the fear he has aroused has brought him one step away from the presidency.

Our endorsement of Clinton, and rejection of Trump, is not a blanket dismissal of the many Trump supporters who are motivated by legitimate anxieties about their future and their place in the American economy. But Trump has seized on these anxieties and inflamed and racialized them, without proposing realistic policies to address them.

In its founding statement, The Atlantic promised that it would be “the organ of no party or clique,” and our interest here is not to advance the prospects of the Democratic Party, nor to damage those of the Republican Party. If Hillary Clinton were facing Mitt Romney, or John McCain, or George W. Bush, or, for that matter, any of the leading candidates Trump vanquished in the Republican primaries, we would not have contemplated making this endorsement. We believe in American democracy, in which individuals from various parties of different ideological stripes can advance their ideas and compete for the affection of voters. But Trump is not a man of ideas. He is a demagogue, a xenophobe, a sexist, a know-nothing, and a liar. He is spectacularly unfit for office, and voters—the statesmen and thinkers of the ballot box—should act in defense of American democracy and elect his opponent.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:21 pm

If Hillary Clinton were facing Mitt Romney, or John McCain, or George W. Bush, or, for that matter, any of the leading candidates Trump vanquished in the Republican primaries, we would not have contemplated making this endorsement.


In other words, this organ of the old establishment centrist media says...

1) ...if Clinton were facing any of the Republicans who were the latest in a sequence since Goldwater and Nixon to make their party such fertile ground for Trump; if she had merely to contend with the men who built this party in such fashion that he could stroll in and take it over with little more than a TV act and a Twitter account, but such hatred in his heart; aye, if she were facing these men to whom we media allowed the facade of respectability when they pushed the same longstanding overt racism and religious fundamentalism as Trump, but had the taste to do so more subtly; were she, we say, merely facing the Bush, on whom we bestowed gift-baskets of sophistry to justify war crimes, torture, constitutional shreddings, out-and-out blood-soaked wars of aggression -- if she were, we say, only facing the blood-hungry Cruz, or the rest of the nuke-em-all crowd whom Trump somehow machine gunned from a helicopter one evening during their Vegas mobster feast (or did he best the poor boys by his rhetorical cunning? in any case, he vanquished them, the cad!) -- then no, we would feel no moral dilemnana so acute that we should take this rare public stand...

Or how about the more unapologetically Team Democrat variant?

2) ...facing any of the men of whom we spoke in pretty much exactly the same terms as we do about Trump today, when in past elections we also castigated all who thought not to vote for our candidates so as to stop these very same monsters; but whom we now welcome, welcome, as sage old advisers and valued allies in the fight against the Cheeto Hitler, reserving our true hatred as always only for the leftists who might deviate from our holy effort to stop this year's mad dog... Welcome, oh Bush! Welcome to you, friend!

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:23 pm

Stock Fraud, Drug Trafficking, & the ‘Alt-Right’

Posted on September 28, 2016 by Daniel Hopsicker

When Donald Trump’s campaign manager Steve Bannon was recently exposed for using a vacant house in Miami as his legal residence, he hastily changed his legal address to a beach house in Sarasota, Florida owned by a writer at his Breitbart.com website.

His hurried move— made more urgent by Trump’s adoption of ‘voter fraud’ as one of his signature issues— has unexpectedly given a gift that keeps on giving to investigators probing the financing of the newly-emergent “Alt-Right.”

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America’s “most dangerous political operative”

bannon44Bannon, who Bloomberg recently called The Most Dangerous Political Operative in America, had repaired to a beach house owned by Andy Badolato, who claims on his website to be an “entrepreneur, senior level executive, venture capitalist and seed stage investor” who has founded companies with a market cap of $26 billion dollars.”

However an investigation reveals that Bannon’s buddy and roommate Badolato has long-time links to a nest of financial fraudsters that raise questions of whether money taken from investors through Badolato’s series of stock scams — which operated on an almost industrial scale—had been pocketed by financiers of the Breitbart.com-led “alt-right.”

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The group of racketeers, swindlers and flimflam men may even have links to fraudsters in Southern California associated with a man who has been profiled here on many occasions.

Does anyone remember disgraced Republican Congressman Randy “Duke ” Cunningham?



Fleecing Haitian immigrants for fun and profit
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Andy Badolato was involved in a stock fraud cum Ponzi scheme at a Palm Beach Gardens, Florida company, Industrial Business Ventures Group, (IBVG), where he was Senior Vice President of Corporate Finance.

Two of his partners in the scheme —Jonathan Curshen and Michael Muzio— are currently in federal prison. Both men were also involved, oddly enough, in the drug trafficking ring in St. Petersburg, Florida responsible for the ill-fated ‘drug move’ resulting in the biggest drug seizure on an airplane in Mexican history, 5.5 tons of cocaine, found on an American-registered DC-9 busted in the Yucatan in April of 2006.

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Jonathan Curshen

Alt-right Sarasota beachcomber Badolato’s fellow Sarasota resident Jonathan Curshen was profiled in a story here last week.

“Curshen is the most intriguing. He is a dual citizen of England and the United States,” reported Off-shore Alert. “He resides in Sarasota, Fla., and Costa Rica. In Costa Rica, he serves as honorary consul for St. Kitts & Nevis. He also serves as honorary consul for “New Utopia,” a sham country that exists only in cyberspace. It publicly offers ‘citizenships,’ ‘national flags,’ ID cards and currency.”

A look at Badolato’s second partner in the scheme, Tampa resident Michael Muzio, exposes a checkered past and criminal curriculum vitae every bit as colorful as Curshen.



“Andy’s Web”

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Muzio and Badolato’s company was involved in what was called “a classic Ponzi scheme,” made even more despicable because it targeted poor Haitian immigrants.

According to an FBI press release announcing Muzio’s conviction, the scheme “stripped $14.3 million from more than 600 gullible investors, most of them Haitian-Americans in South Florida and New Jersey.”

“Muzio issued false and misleading press releases,” said the FBI, claiming International Business Ventures Group had deals to offer pre-paid debit cards and pre-paid calling cards in Haiti, where the company also had exclusive rights to market pre-paid electric meters.

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Muzio once complained to “colleagues” about how costly it was to run a stock scam, Palm Beach Business magazine reported. “He’s about to find out exactly how expensive it can be when you get caught.”

For his part in the fraud Muzio was sentenced to 163 months in prison.



Muzio may have been a little preoccupied

In what authorities like to think is a relatively unusual situation for a corporate officer, Michael Muzio also found himself the target of a Mob hit. Testimony in an extortion trial in Tampa named Muzio as the intended victim of a Mafia hit ordered by a business associate, Joseph Forlizzo of Queens, and Clearwater, Florida.

peeweeThe Forlizzo brothers contracted Muzio’s murder, court testimony revealed, with Anthony “Pee Wee” Lanza, a captain in New York’s Genovese Mafia crime family.

“Pee Wee” was involved, according to the NY Daily News, in everything from prostitution, where he was running “a high heel-clicking stream of hookers reporting to the upper East Side headquarters of a mob-controlled prostitution ring,” to extortion, for threatening to beat a man to death if he didn’t pay up a Genovese crime family loan.”

Forlizzarrest1o, a chiropractor, had been partners with Muzio in a magnetic resonance imaging company in Clearwater. Deciding the partnership was unsatisfactory, Forlizzo took certain ‘measures,’ which became the center focus during his trial, which was filled with accusations of Mafia ties, hit men and extortion.

Testimony showed that Forlizzo and the “boys from New York” decided to kill Muzio and have another man, Philip ‘Philly’ Bova, of Largo, Florida, pose as Muzio to empty his bank accounts.

51tfiie5zl-_sy346_Court transcripts offered little explanation for why Muzio ‘needed killing,’ or ‘had it coming,’ two often-cited reasons for contract hits.

But when officers of public companies need key man insurance against the prospect of being rubbed out, business almost invariably suffers.

In a cautionary note, Tampa Mob expert Scott Deitche, author of Cigar Store Mafia reports that Pee Wee, after being convicted of extortion, died in prison.



“A troubled existence”

badoAndy Badolato’s companies have all floundered like unwanted babies flung off a cliff. But Industrial Business Ventures Group had a particularly troubled business life, facing problems most new concerns never encounter, like attrition, which became an issue when Muzio and three of the company’s officers went to prison at the same time.

Muzio, called “a Tampa businessman” in news accounts, was at the time on probation for a 2006 grand larceny conviction in New York.

“The Saga Ends In Jail” was the headline on an article by one stock analyst:

“The fact that the company has been involved in suspicious schemes should be of no surprise to people who have spent time to review the biography of the company’s management team. All three of them: Brian Taglieri, Abner Alable, and Ronnie Bass, are currently in jail facing their sentences.”

Initially, the trio started its business as an investment club called HomePals, based in North Miami Beach. In the spring of 2008, HomePals managed to strip almost $14.5 million from hundreds of Haitians living in Florida and New Jersey by means of a Ponzi-like scheme.

Then in July 2008, HomePals bought International Business Ventures Group, which until then was a public shell company. The larceny…involved pumping up IBVR stock price as much as possible and then dumping it on the public.

As his trial was about to start, Ronnie Bass, 36, of Delray Beach, pleaded no contest to 14 charges in connection with the Homepals Investment Club. He faced 20 years in prison.



Multi-tasking “hyena pack” big in stock fraud, drug trafficking

The real question is the one asked in “Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid:” Who are these guys?

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At Play in the Fields of the Lord

In addition to Mob links, we will see hints of U.S. intelligence involvement. Does Steve Bannon have national security ties?

According to Bloomberg News, Bannon joined the Navy right after college, and then spent four years at sea, including working as a navigator in the north Arabian Sea during the Iranian hostage crisis. He left the Persian Gulf just as the ill-fated U.S. mission to rescue the hostages in Tehran, Desert One, died in the sands of the Iranian desert.

Bannon became an assistant to the chief of Naval operations at the Pentagon, earned a master’s degree in national security studies at Georgetown University at night, then headed to Wall Street, where he went to work at Goldman Sachs. There he worked on a series of leveraged buyouts, including a deal involving Bain Capital and Mitt Romney.

“The camaraderie was amazing,” he told reporter Jeff Goldberg “It was like being in the Navy, in the wardroom of a ship.”

The subject of rogue U.S. intel assets joining the Mob in widespread stock fraud warrants careful consideration. According to L.J. Kolb’s “Overworld,” an eye-opening account of growing up as the son of an American spy: “There’s a secret world all around us. You just don’t see it unless you know where to look.”

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:58 am

But what if Trump wins? I think he will win. Just because this zeitgeist is *that* weird. What then? I actually would be surprised if Clinton wins at this point
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Luther Blissett » Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:36 am

8bitagent » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:58 am wrote:But what if Trump wins? I think he will win. Just because this zeitgeist is *that* weird. What then? I actually would be surprised if Clinton wins at this point


So many different factions of the powers that be that steer and dictate election results via electronic voting machine backdoors, gerrymandering, court decisions, and straight-up voter fraud almost exclusively want Clinton to win though. We live in a country where the popular vote has not actually decided who became president in an historical election so I really don't think it matters. She has to be installed.

I mean even certain Stein rallies draw more people than Clinton rallies. It just doesn't matter.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:52 am

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They could still get him out of office.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:48 am

Luther, yes.

But I don't think it will require that. The gut reaction to Trump outside his large minority of supporters is the most powerful force for Clinton, the fixing in this case is just fixings to the main course.

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:01 pm

Donald Trump's New Tagline Echoes a Nazi Slogan


by anne hilt
September 25, 2016 12:25 PM

Ivanka Trump Claimed Her Former Husband Kept a Book Containing the Collected Speeches of Hitler in a Cabinet by His Bed
Recently, Donald Trump’s speeches have begun to include the phrase, “one people, under one God, saluting one flag.” The use of this phrase is not accidental or one of his off-teleprompter moments; he has used it at Values Voter Summit, and on the campaign trail at stops including Philadelphia, near Des Moines, Iowa, and Asheville, N.C.


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Trump at National Guard conference: “We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag.


The use of the phrase “under one God,” excludes anyone who is Hindu, atheist, agnostic. It also likely leaves out anyone who believes in a God that isn’t the same one envisioned by right-wing Christians in America, such as affirming Christian denominations and Muslims. It darkly hints at discrimination against anyone who sees God a bit differently. But the religious subtext isn’t the worst part of this phrase.

The worst part is that Trump’s campaign appears to have deliberately borrowed language used by the Nazi Party in Germany.

“Ein Volk, Ein Reich. Ein Führer!” roughly translates as “One people. One Nation. One Leader!” and was effectively the national motto of Germany between 1935 and 1945. It appeared in countless posters, radio broadcasts, and speeches. This was an adaptation of an earlier German slogan which even more closely resembles the one used by Trump: “Ein Reich. Ein Volk. Ein Gott.) (One nation. One people. One God)

It would be easier to attribute to pure chance if it were not for an allegation made by the New York City billionaire's ex-wife in a 1990 Vanity Fair interview. Ivanka claimed that Trump kept a book containing the collected speeches of Hitler (My New Order) in a cabinet by his bed and read them from time to time. Thus, it seems somewhat dubious that Trump would be unaware of the historical context of the phrase he has been using in his speeches recently.

It also is not the first time the Trump campaign has used material from Neo-Nazi and White Nationalist sources. In February, Trump repeatedly re-tweeted messages from the Twitter account “WhiteGenocide.” In July, Trump re-tweeted a picture of Clinton over a pile of cash with a six-pointed star that was originally posted on an anti-Semitic website by a Twitter account that had posted a number of anti-Semitic memes before. The chairman of the American Nazi party has enthusiastically endorsed Trump, calling his candidacy a “real opportunity for the movement.”

Trump also made some thinly veiled comments about Jews being “negotiators” and all about money in a speech to the Republican Jewish Coalition in December 2015.

Trump’s son, Donald Jr., has also made a series of remarks related to white nationalism. Media Matters noted he has:

posted an image celebrating “Pepe the Frog, a symbol that has been co-opted by white supremacists and nationalists.”

said during a radio interview that the media would be “warming up the gas chamber” if Trump lied like Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton has.

retweeted anti-Semitic writer Kevin MacDonald, whom the Southern Poverty Law Center calls “the neo-Nazi movement's favorite academic.”

gave an interview to white nationalist radio host James Edwards, during which Edwards and Trump Jr. complained about “political correctness.”

Posted a meme comparing refugees to poison skittles, a dog whistle dating back to the Nazis.

Nate Silver at FiveThirtyEight noted that the GOP’s Jewish donors are abandoning Trump, likely as a result of this Nazi-style rhetoric and strong support from White Nationalists, Neo-Nazis, and their media outlets.

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby lyrimal » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:21 pm

JackRiddler » Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:48 am wrote:Luther, yes.

But I don't think it will require that. The gut reaction to Trump outside his large minority of supporters is the most powerful force for Clinton, the fixing in this case is just fixings to the main course.

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Trump won his nomination above board, Clinton had to steal hers. Things have not been going better for Clinton since. If she wins, it will be by exploiting as many undemocratic means as possible. Just like in the primaries, nothing will be left to chance... Letting alone the 'gut reaction' many, many Americans have against Clinton.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby tapitsbo » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:31 pm

Neither Trump nor Clinton will enjoy Oba's patina of scarcely challenged legitimacy, and that's a good thing

The bad part is the policies of either will very likely be worse than Obama's
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:47 pm

Bumping. I think people are sleeping on this, an important issue.
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