TRUMP is seriously dangerous

[FourthBase]

yes I would ...no woman should be held accountable for a mans deeds...period

but thanks for joining the club

color me not surprised

Absolute horseshit.

[seemslikeadream]

yes I agree

your reply ....Absolute horseshit

[brekin]

thank you
yes but for some people here it is perfectly fine for Trump to use women....what I can't figure is why in their mind it is not Melania's fault that he is a racist misogynistic asshole

But who here is saying that??
By racist misogynist asshole, are you referring to Bill or Donald?
OK Here are some different perspectives
1 Trump is an actual rapist
AFAIK there is no evidence of this. I don't discount it. I think it unlikely, but think his actual philandering is probably much more extensive.
2 Bill Clinton is an actual rapist
Juanita Broderick is telling the truth has / was being threatened by Hilary
Not all women who have experienced it want to go through a court case.
3 Neither Bill Clinton nor Donald Trump are rapists
In this case, the whole thing is probably a Kayfabe wrestling scenario. Or just dirty politics. Business as usual
4 Both of them were rapists
Did Melania and Hilary know and do nothing? Or were they in the dark?

Donny and Billy in the penalty box, rape culture on the skids.
Yo ye pharoahs, let us walk
Through this barren desert, in search of truth
And some pointy boots, and maybe a few snack crackers.

[FourthBase]

yes I agree

your reply ....Absolute horseshit

Let me be more specific. The idea that if Laura Bush were the GOP nominee you'd still think the crimes of George W. Bush should be irrelevant to her candidacy is absolute fucking horseshit.

[seemslikeadream]

well you are absolutely fucking wrong

got any proof?

you don't know me....


you are just talking out of your ass

18906 posts go find one post where I blamed a woman for anything a man did

why aren't you complaining about members here who are actually blaming a woman for what a man did right now?

or don't you really care about that

[FourthBase]

well you are absolutely fucking wrong

got any proof?

you don't know me....


you are just talking out of your ass

18906 posts go find one post where I blamed a woman for anything a man did

why aren't you complaining about members here who are actually blaming a woman for what a man did right now?

or don't you really care about that

I'm not complaining about them because they are being completely fucking reasonable. Whereas you are basically out of your fucking gourd. You're ludicrously pretending like she's some fucking poor beleagered housewife hopelessly trapped in a bad marriage to a bully instead of one of the most powerful and sinister human beings in the world who just happens to have formed a long term joint political partnership with another ambitious sociopath. She harasses and intimidates women who were raped and abused by her partner. Why in the unholy fuck do you not care about that?

[seemslikeadream]

quit putting fucking words in my mouth...all I have said over and over again....women are not to be blamed for their husbands/boyfriends deeds...to do so is misogynistic....that's it....end of story

why don't you care about the real rapist Trump

[Harvey]

Responding to the avalanche of untruth by selecting which untruth is preferable is like selecting which unnecessarily pointless life I prefer. There are other ways to see it.

[Harvey]

Trump is not going to win the election, that much is certain. Who shall, how much power they can wield and for whom is something Americans can and should consider. Your media like ours will never allow you a moment to think about it and will corral you by your fears and desires simply because it works. Until it stops working.

[FourthBase]

quit putting fucking words in my mouth...all I have said over and over again....women are not to be blamed for their husbands/boyfriends deeds...to do so is misogynistic....that's it....end of story

And while that might make sense for a poor battered housewife, it makes no goddamned sense at all in the case of an evil geopolitical heavyweight who has been an unapologetic accomplice to those deeds to further her own evil fucking career. To take the principle of being understanding about powerless women trapped in marriages to bad men and apply it like an airtight rule to a world class ghoul like Hillary Clinton to save her from judgment is pretty fucking sleazy of you.

[seemslikeadream]

oh women who dare to become a heavyweight loose their right to be judged by what they do and gain the wonderful benefit of being judge by what their husbands do

how gracious of you

[FourthBase]

oh women who dare to become a heavyweight loose their right to be judged by what they do and gain the wonderful benefit of being judge by what their husbands do

how gracious of you

Take your meds.

[JackRiddler]

As you say on Bill Clinton's behalf, his rape charges are still allegations. Same is true of Trump, however. His disgusting bragging is no doubt true, but does not constitute a confession under the law. I believe both are not only guilty but altogether typical of male privilege within their shared class. This is what rich powerful men can do if so inclined, within that milieu. Trump was not engaging in talk typical of the locker room, so much as he was engaging in talk typical among ruling class assholes (though most of them are probably not so moronic they don't remember when they have a fucking network microphone strapped to their fucking hip). But under criminal law, both WJC and DJT are innocent until proven guilty, and have hellacious professionals to defend them.

I am glad and relieved to see that Trump is going down first, and he definitely represents the greater threat, to which a few people here are pitiably blind because they don't deal with cops, build movements, face deportation or face threats from armed "patriot" mobs with cop cover. This typical New Jersey mobster, money launderer, and extraordinary scam artist of the all-too-stupid is currently trying to make America fascist. THe defense that he constitutes a "lesser evil" is based on nothing other than that until now he has not commanded the capacity to kill millions, and never mind that he promises it: "TAKE THEIR OIL." And never mind that he will be utterly impeachable, replaced by Pence in a minute at the whim of his "fellow" Republicans, and then we'll see what's even worse than Trump. (He should have chosen Cruz, if he wanted insurance.)

Nevertheless, by next fall either one of these odious "candidates" might end civilization.

[seemslikeadream]

oh women who dare to become a heavyweight loose their right to be judged by what they do and gain the wonderful benefit of being judge by what their husbands do

how gracious of you

Take your meds.

nothing can help you even if you had meds to take

[JackRiddler]

oh women who dare to become a heavyweight loose their right to be judged by what they do and gain the wonderful benefit of being judge by what their husbands do

how gracious of you

This "universal woman" defense is rather laughable when applied to Hillary Clinton, and if you had not converted so completely to the Official Democratic Underground line (who saw that coming?) you'd be laughing too.

HRC is absolutely being criticized for her own decisions...

Bill Clinton is absolutely fair game. Because having him front and center in her campaign is one of her decisions.

HRC has touted him as her most important economic advisor in the coming administration. He is out there every day campaigning as a surrogate, doing so as former President Clinton and not simply as the supporting husband.

HRC played a key and active role in WJC's administration and his campaigns, and is acknowledged as a pioneer in making the First Lady role much more important.

She constantly harkens back to WJC's administration as the golden age she intends to restore, with his help. She did so again at the debate yesterday.

Of course he and his character and his alleged sex crimes are all fair game. For acceptable, political reasons.

This has nothing to do with blaming the wife for the husband's sins. Not when the wife is in charge, and choosing to promote the husband as a political ally. Then it's about politics.

The same is true of, say, HRC's announced mentor, Kissinger. Or her embrace of endorsements from the Bush regime's fugitive war criminals, including Negroponte and Rice. Of course you can blame HRC for those, if she embraces them. Just as you can blame her for her close political ally WJC.

Anyway, obviously Trump must be kept out. Fascism is no solution. So instead of wasting your time here, why don't you take these particular efforts to places where you might sway some undecideds or Republicans not to vote for him?

Hint: There as well, negativity about Trump will work a lot better, because it is true, than bullshit purporting to show why Clinton is a wonderful person who loves children, etc. etc.

See your candidate's campaign for tips: It's always hit Trump, hit Trump, hit Trump, and hell rightly so; then, maybe, she trots out the bullshit wherein she takes credit for S-CHIP and other ways she supposedly helped children a million years ago -- carefully avoiding her major votes as Senator or her actual decisions as Secretary of State -- and tells the story about how she heroically rebuilt New York after 9/11 with help from her most excellent friend and really all around good guy George W. Bush.

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