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Postby ir » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:54 am

recently, and I believe it was following a post I wrote in my blog about PROMIS, i had some 5 new subscribers to my blog, of the kind I am not used to (namely, people of some power, like "mainstream" people, not the usual crowd of misfits and paranoids - that I am used to and got to like). The next day, I killed the post, because I felt it was too scary to leave it in the air. The next day I receive a short email from a fairly known msm journalist, actualy one of the "nice guys" of msm, leftie type who is also working for the local equivalent of PBS cable TV. He jus wrote "what a cool blog", as in compliment, we kind of ping ponged and then he wrote "do you believe in conspiracies ? do you think there was one in the case of the Trojan Horse ? (that's our local version of "the magic software" affair and criminal investigation). I ducked the issues and kind of diverted the exchange to a casual chat on life. to sum up the exchange he wrote - there are no conspiracies in our society cause we have free press. And also "the kind of stuff you write here wlil not be admitted to a newspaper" (I never asked to do that...so it was weird). and that's it. I am now edgy about it. anyone had such experience while blogging?<br><br>----<br>ps, the post itself was pretty solid, I resisted the urge to deal with the Israeli part, just a general description of the issue and links to some websites that write about it, one of them, by Ari Ben Menashe. But I didn't mention his name on the post, in Hebrew or said anything about him. I just said that too bad we get a very partial coverage in Israel to such affairs (as the "trojan horse"), because we never get to really know what poses a risk to our lives, privacy, rights. And I wondered aloud, what eventually transpired with the indictments in this case (several PI's were arrested and charged). I suppose the journalist felt it was criticising the press but I actually thought there was censorship by government. <br><br>this specific newspaper he works for, has an interesting "connection", one of the owners was married to one of the israeli players in the Irangate affair. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: when the media eyes your blog...

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:01 pm

Care to re-publish it here? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: when the media eyes your blog...

Postby chiggerbit » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:14 pm

Did this person say how he came across your blog or how long he had been reading? <p></p><i></i>
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its in hebrew, still want it ?

Postby ir » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:15 pm

i actually looked up,and it can be found via google/cache, although I killed the post from my website.<br>so if you are interested I can post the linke to the cache or paste the article (without the visuals) here. <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: its in hebrew, still want it ?

Postby chiggerbit » Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:01 pm

If you would be interested in links to the Inslaw subject, pm me, ir. <p></p><i></i>
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chigger,

Postby ir » Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:15 pm

thanks, i'll have to re register, and I'd hate to be the one that "breaks" the even 333 membership :-) especially since today the evil numbers had their revenge at me, and scared the sh..t out of me.<br>--<br>once I register will pm you. on second thought, while re reading the post in my blog from the cache, I don't think the journalist meant bad, i think most of them actually do not know these things, and would prefer not to know.<br>one tends to attribute more knowledge to reporters than they actually have, they can't go too deep into issues, cause they cover so much. I think perhaps someone, a reader emailed him the post cause he thought it would interest him, and that was it. <br>But I felt that I have no desire to be the one to break those news to people who'd rather be in denial. (why me ?). He suggested to sometimes quote from my blog with credit, in his articles and I said NO thank you, if you need any material you can let me know and usually i'll agree to let you copy and use it WITHOUT credit. Its one thing to write about Inslaw in a blog and another to have it on print, with my name in the most popular newspaper. hope I did right, and didn't actually turn down a golden egg. its just that i feel that mingling blog with printed press is a bad idea in "high weirdness" matters. They'll always make it look ridiculous, otherwise it would make the press look ridiculously uninformed.<br>---<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: its in hebrew, still want it ?

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:01 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I can post the linke to the cache<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>That would be excellent, thanks. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: links

Postby chiggerbit » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:01 pm

This is only part of what I have. Hope there are no duplicates. <br><br>I suggest that you "consider the source" on several of these for yourself. For instance, I thought Harry Martin wrote some good stuff, but I saw him quoting that Russbacher or whatever his name is, and it put me off. Sometimes I wonder if the whole PROMIS conspiracy was just an elaborate disinformation operation, with the "victims'" cooperation as part of the operation. Other times I'm convinced it is just the tip of a very big iceberg. Good place to keep in mind the "How to spot a spy" thread, because I strongly suspect that some of the people who claim to be involved in outing this conspiracy are actually operators trying to diminish the credibility of the real investigators. Russbacher is one of those whose story, it appeared to me, seemed to constantly change, becoming more elaborate every time he told it, "revealing" more and more names on the October Surprise as he went along. <br><br>Has anybody heard if Riconosciuto has died?<br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.disinfo.com/archive/index.html">www.disinfo.com/archive/index.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/brian.htm">www.aci.net/kalliste/brian.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>[Email Reply] <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon7.html">www.sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon7.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.pdxnorml.org/FOSTER0">www.pdxnorml.org/FOSTER0</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.rense.com/general40/plotting.htm">www.rense.com/general40/plotting.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.business2.com/b2/web/articles/0,17863,514192,00.html">www.business2.com/b2/web/...92,00.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.consortiumnews.com/1999/101499a.html">www.consortiumnews.com/1999/101499a.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.maebrussell.com/Bibliography%20Sheets/858s1.html">www.maebrussell.com/Bibli...858s1.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/casolaro/inslaw.html">www.totse.com/en/conspira...nslaw.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20001206234400/www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3681913c21d4.htm">web.archive.org/web/20001...3c21d4.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.infomanage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3988">www.infomanage.com/forums...php?t=3988</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:eQBIvF48s00J:www.american-buddha.com/orlin.vince.1.htm+Allegations+Regarding+Vince+Foster,+the+NSA,+and+Banking+Transactions+Spying,+Part+VI&hl=en">64.233.167.104/search?q=c...t+VI&hl=en</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://pdr.autono.net/VirginiaMcCullough.html">pdr.autono.net/VirginiaMcCullough.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/INSLAW/inslaw_hr.summary">www.eff.org/legal/cases/I...hr.summary</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg12805.html">www.mail-archive.com/ctrl...12805.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.copi.com/articles/angldoom.htm">www.copi.com/articles/angldoom.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1.01/inslaw.html">www.wired.com/wired/archi...nslaw.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20000815202849/http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3691e2526c13.htm">web.archive.org/web/20000...526c13.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Don't try to mix the media

Postby rapt » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:04 pm

You are right IR. The time is not right , and perhaps it never will be, to drag your private blog thoughts into MSM. Sort of like wading into a quicksand pit to rescue an enemy. <p></p><i></i>
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link to chached post, its the first

Postby ir » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:17 pm

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Re: link to chached post, its the first

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:46 pm

heh..The majority of that is not in english. Are the english parts translations? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: link to chached post, its the first

Postby chiggerbit » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:56 pm

Heehee:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Some of you may die...but it's a sacrifice I am willing to make - Prince Farquad,Shrek</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i></i>
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god created the world in Hebrew, mind you

Postby ir » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:24 pm

which is why it is the way it is.<br><br>et arcadia- i warned you it was in Heb and you insisted.<br>The english parts are just snipets from links I bring, sort of "sample". regretfully, most of my links are to English websites, as these topics are not really in existence in Hebrew, I have to introduce them. but many readers are quite versed in English. and frankly, since I am not paid for this, I will not go through the translation part, its too much HARD work. <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: god created the world in Hebrew, mind you

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:28 pm

My apologies, I missed your warning.. <p></p><i></i>
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links

Postby ir » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:23 pm

chigger thanks for the links, quite a lot of work there...this is one of those "affairs" you really have to invest a lot of time to understand.<br>As for "what it is" a disinfo scare job or tip of iceberg - my intuitive understanding, as good as anyone else's - its the tip of the iceberg in certain terms. the disinfo part can certainly exist re the specification of the software/hardware, something I can't relate to anyway, as I am illeterate in computer science/language. However, as to the other aspects - the level of government involvement indicates it is BIG stuff. at least in Israel, the groups that deal with that overlap nuclear and other non conventional weaponry, which is the highest level here. Also, i believe the MC perps are coming from the same snake pit. This is not necessarily the case in the USA, because priorities here and there are not identical. But i usually find out the structures and hierarchies in Israel reflect same in the USA (except perhaps SPACE issues, Israel is insignificantly involved in that department). <br>If this is the case, then the issue is related to the hard core of the evil people we loosely refer to as Nazi rings, with strong ties to international crime orgs. not nice people and they keep reappearing in various different yucki stuff, kind of Octopusish. <br>Personally, I don't think they are the PTB of the world, as power lies in the hands of big money/corps/industries/governments - but these are the nazis of the world, that's bad enough.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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