TRUMP is seriously dangerous

[Luther Blissett]

The people are becoming more progressive than ever, and that's on a global scale. The average Chinese person, the average Iranian, the average Brazilian, the average American. It's the states that are pushing ever rightward and only the tiny fascist minority who are their tools. Remember that only about 4% of the population selected Trump as the nominee.

[seemslikeadream]

Why Donald Trump Scares You So Much — and Why It Matters

It's not just you — we were born to fear predators, and Donald Trump fits the profile of a psychopath.


Study: Trump's Misogyny Is Having a Negative Impact on Girls' Self Esteem
Impressionable young women hear Trump's ugly anti-woman rhetoric loud and clear.



As Josh Marshall argues, perhaps the most disturbing part of the new ad, “Donald Trump’s Argument For America,” is its use of anti-Semitic tropes. As Trump complains about “those who control the levers of power in Washington” and “global special interests” who “put money into the pockets of handful of large corporations,” the villains displayed on screen are all prominent Jews:



Trump’s final ad passes off footage of migrants in Hungary as scene from U.S.



Ethnic Cleansing

Blake Von Mittman, 21, a proud nationalist and member of the white supremacist Alt-Right, said, “I want prosperity for all the races in this country. We are cradling Blacks and minorities like they are daisies. The media should unify all the races.” He doesn’t mind people celebrating their culture, but, “They should celebrate privately, and not make it a national holiday like Black History Month or quinceañeras. It’s disgusting.


Donald Trump’s Plan to ‘Make America Great Again’ is Ethnic Cleansing



Yes, Donald Trump, the FBI Can Vet 650,000 Emails in Eight Days
https://www.wired.com/2016/11/yes-donal ... ight-days/


Mexican Peso Soars After FBI Clears Clinton for Second Time
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... _time.html


Protester Says He Was Nearly Killed After Trump Says 'Take Him Out' in Reno
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/1 ... m-out-reno


Donald Trump is taking a page from Reconstruction-era white supremacists
https://theconversation.com/donald-trum ... Conversati

[JackRiddler]

so much of Europe and the world is poised to be ruled by far right authoritarian fascists. Golden Dawn in Europe, and the far right close to taking over the UK, France, Austria, Hungary, Poland, Italy,

You just love talking out your ass, don't you? Golden Dawn is in Greece, not "Europe." They got 7% in the two elections of 2012 and again in the two elections of 2015. In the UK, you want to call the Tories far right authoritarians, fine. They're not a fascist party. UKIP got 10% in the last election and is currently in decline. The surge has been to Labour, as can be read even in the same media uniformly slagging Corbyn. I'm not even sure who the fascists are in Italy, but the movement there has been to Grillo's party, who's not. Le Pen is likely to come in second in France and get massacred in the runoff. The far right did take over Poland and we'll see what happens after the recent mobilization of women and possible turn in opinion. Austria, some bad news. Hungary, definitely. I guess the way with you is to just throw a bunch of bullshit you don't bother to research and see what sticks?

[semper occultus]

..there's the Ukraine I suppose....these parties are a bit like small planets drifting into a solar system where they start disrupting the established orbits of the larger existing planetary bodies...its their indirect effect that is the key element - to whit UKIP & Cameron calling the referendum, Sarkozy ripping-off Le Pen's talking points etc..

( there was Makis Voridis in Greece though )

[seemslikeadream]

So my final words to them are this: You are wrong. Everything you believe is wrong. It isn't just that it conflicts with my ideology. It's that you are factually, demonstrably wrong, about Hillary Clinton, about Barack Obama, about Donald Trump, and your candidate consistently, flagrantly lies. He is utter shit. The fact that you don't care about this makes you shit. You should be whipped out of the public sphere like vermin-infested dogs until you only occupy the hinterlands and can live in your compounds of shit. The rest of us are done with you.

I am going into this election with my eyes wide open to my candidate's flaws. That makes me more honorable than the lot of you combined. So take your pathetic hatred of everything that has helped America progress and fuck yourself with it.

Adios, motherfuckers. The country is about to tell you to fuck off. And when next Tuesday is over, crawl back to your deplorable lives, eat shit, and disappear.

Last Note to Trump Voters: You Are Wrong and You Are Shit and Your Candidate Is Shit
If you want to waste some time in sad bemusement, you can read recent columns by open-hearted progressives and depressed conservatives, desperately trying to convince voters for Republican candidate and human whoopee cushion Donald Trump to change their minds. In the Washington Post, for instance, former Bush speechwriter Michael Gerson begs like a bitch, "In the end, a Trump victory would normalize the belief that the structures of self-government are unequal to the crisis of our time." Over in the New York Times, Thomas Friedman reaches out his friend hand to the Trumpsters: "I understand why many Trump supporters have lost faith in Washington and want to just 'shake things up.'" But, Friedman assures them, Trump's "policies won’t help them. Trump promises to bring their jobs back. But most of their jobs didn’t go to a Mexican. They went to a microchip." It's so kind of them to try to help their fellow Americans make such an important decision.

However, none of these rational editorials rationally laying out how irrational a vote for Trump is even approach understanding the Trump voter. They miss one big goddamn thing: The very things they think should convince sane people to turn against Trump are the very things that Trump voters love about their orange cult leader. You aren't dealing with anyone with reasonable intelligence or the ability to process logic, so stop trying. Trump voters are shit humans, so obviously they want a shit human for president. And your oh-so-good points about how terrible Trump is are wasted on such shit.

You can show Trump voters articles by every economist under the sun about how Trump's economic policies will bring about another recession, and they'll tell you that your so-called "experts" don't know anything and Trump knows all. That goes for just about any other policy. Of course, Trump will build the wall and have Mexico pay for it. Of course, Trump will knock the hell out of ISIS. Of course, Trump will bring back manufacturing jobs. Of course, Trump will make coal central to the energy policy of the nation. Of course, Trump will round up all undocumented immigrants and send them back to their countries. Of course, we have to figure out "what the hell is going on" with Muslims, who all know what every other Muslim is doing always. And if other countries have a problem with how Trump handles things like NATO or torture, well, fuck them for not also believing in Trump. That's what nukes are for.

For Trump voters, his behavior as a shit human being makes no difference. His "grab them by the pussy" remarks were just friendly "locker room talk" and meaningless, and every single one of those women accusing him of sexual assault are lying about him or exaggerating or wanted it. His Trump University troubles are lies made up by a liberal media that has always been out to get him and should be punished. Those people he didn't pay for things like chandeliers or pianos or whatever for his hotels or country clubs didn't do a good job and didn't deserve full pay. And why the fuck should he have to release his taxes like every other major party candidate since the 1970s? Besides, they're under audit. Didn't you hear what the man said?

And I don't wanna hear how I need to "understand" where Trump voters are coming from. I know where they come from. I know them. I lived in three states that are going to go for Trump. I've got skin in this game.

Earlier this week, one of my oldest, dearest friends posted on Facebook that he had voted. He wouldn't say for whom, but "I'll just say that I hope he wins."

"Please tell me you voted for Gary Johnson. He's a fucking moron, but at least he doesn't have a chance of winning," I said to him when I called him.

"No, of course I voted for Trump," he answered. "Or, as I like to call him, 'Reagan 2.'"

I responded, "Oh, a sequel. So you mean a shitty version of the original where the same things happen, except worse and stupider." Now, what went through my mind at that moment was that Reagan was a national nightmare, a fucking ghoul wearing the skin suit of a kindly grandpa, another shit human who at least did a couple of decent things, like grant amnesty to immigrants and raise taxes to save Social Security, things that Trump has specifically said he wouldn't do.

"Okay, more like Godfather II," my friend said, implying a sequel that was superior to the original.

"Yeah, I could totally see Trump having Fredo killed after faking that he forgave him," I said.

By now, we've all had discussions with relatives, friends, co-workers, Facebook fucknuts, all of whom have told us with the same glazed eyes or barely coherent comment threads that they want Trump to shake things up or some such nonsense, usually followed by how Hillary Clinton is a criminal, and if you try to point out that Clinton has never been charged with anything after all of the investigations of her while Trump has had to pay fines because he broke the law and has more lawsuits coming, they won't care. They won't care about the Russia ties. They won't care about the FBI's fuckery. They won't care. You are a fool to talk to them about it anymore. They are lost in a shit-tide that they want to be a shit-wave that covers the entire nation in shit.

So my final words to them are this: You are wrong. Everything you believe is wrong. It isn't just that it conflicts with my ideology. It's that you are factually, demonstrably wrong, about Hillary Clinton, about Barack Obama, about Donald Trump, and your candidate consistently, flagrantly lies. He is utter shit. The fact that you don't care about this makes you shit. You should be whipped out of the public sphere like vermin-infested dogs until you only occupy the hinterlands and can live in your compounds of shit. The rest of us are done with you.

I am going into this election with my eyes wide open to my candidate's flaws. That makes me more honorable than the lot of you combined. So take your pathetic hatred of everything that has helped America progress and fuck yourself with it.

Adios, motherfuckers. The country is about to tell you to fuck off. And when next Tuesday is over, crawl back to your deplorable lives, eat shit, and disappear.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com

Brief Note to Anti-Semites for Trump: Your Candidate Is More of a "Jew" Than Any Real Jew
One of the ugliest things in this ugly campaign has been the upsurge in anti-Semitism in support of Republican candidate and rotting butternut squash with legs Donald Trump. It's not that anti-Semitism ever went away, but it was confined to the nether regions of the internet and Idaho until Trump allowed their Nazi freak flag to fly.

Obviously, almost all of it is just pathetic trolling, especially when it comes to Twitter threats of gas chambers or concentration camps against journalists or, really, anyone with a vaguely Jewish-sounding name writing or saying anything anti-Trump. Then there are the anti-Semites who are a little more active, your "Jew-S-A" chanters, your bumper sticker and button sellers, or your white supremacists getting violent at Trump rallies.

Hell, I'm barely Jewish. I was raised Jewish, but I'm a stone-cold atheist who can't remember the last time he was at a synagogue. I have relatives who died at Auschwitz and some who survived (and moved to Australia). I make a mean chicken soup, but, in all honesty, that's about it as far as that heritage goes. And I've been attacked by the frog-faced Nazis on Twitter. I've been sent images of ridiculously grotesque money-craving Jews by Trump voters, usually cleverly calling themselves "deplorable."

Trump himself has trafficked in conspiracy theories about international bankers and the media that stink of Stormfront or other anti-Semitic websites. Speaking last December to a small group of Republican Jewish leaders, Trump really did say, "Is there anyone in this room who doesn't renegotiate deals? Probably 99% of you. Probably more than any room I've ever spoken in...I'm a negotiator, like you folks." And he really did add, "But you're not going to support me because I don't want your money...You want to control your own politicians." In other words, the worst stereotypes are what Trump sees when he looks at a room full of Jewish people.

What's utterly, sadly hilarious here is that, if you look at his business career, Donald Trump has committed nearly all the sins that anti-Semites pin on Jews.

He routinely weasels out of his debts, and he forces people to accept less money than agreed to or sometimes none at all.

He takes money from other people, launders it through his foundation, and uses it to pay his debts.

He manipulates and perhaps breaks the law to save every penny he can when it comes to his taxes.

He welshes on promises to charity and claims credit for donations he never made.

International banking? Putting aside Putin love, Trump is allegedly working with Russian financiers on some of his properties.

As far as controlling the media, let's see what happens after the election.

In other words, Donald Trump is more of a "Jew" than pretty much any actual Jew. The obvious point here is that those things ascribed to Jews aren't particularly Jewish. But, of course, you anti-Semites are goddamned blind fools and are probably fine with Trump because his nose is as small as his hands.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com

[MacCruiskeen]

Adios, motherfuckers. The country is about to tell you to fuck off. And when next Tuesday is over, crawl back to your deplorable lives, eat shit, and disappear.

Like Lena Dunham, the Rude Pundit has got to be a Trump mole. Between them, they might well have tipped this "election" in his favour.

[seemslikeadream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPruTyflGIU

Published on Nov 7, 2016
What was it like to be the first woman to speak out about Donald Trump's alleged sexual harassment and assault of her, why so few African American women were in Trump beauty pageants, Trump''s alleged stiffing restaurants and servers, and whether Jill regrets speaking out against he GOP candidate.
All the questions Jill Harth was not asked by the media.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvfoEbxgpoY
Lisa Boyne speaks out about Donald Trump's cringeworthy upskirt leering

[seemslikeadream]

Mexico has a 'contingency plan' if Trump wins

by Patrick Gillespie and Rafael Romo @CNNMoney
November 4, 2016: 8:38 PM ET


How would Mexico respond to a Trump presidency?

Mexico is preparing for the worst.

If Donald Trump becomes president, Mexican officials are creating a contingency plan for Wednesday to weather what they've called a "hurricane" for Mexico's economy.
"If the adverse scenario manifests itself, it's possible that Mexican authorities will respond in some way," Mexico's central bank governor Agustin Carstens, told Milenio TV in Mexico. "It's a contingency plan that we're talking with the finance minister about."
No details of the contingency plan have been announced, but it's clear that Trump is seen as a major threat to Mexico.
He has threatened to slap a 35% tariff on goods made by U.S. companies in Mexico and sold in the United States. Exports make up one third of Mexico's economy and almost all of them go to America.
Trump claims he will tear up NAFTA, the free trade deal between Canada, Mexico and America if it isn't renegotiated. And he wants to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border that he claims Mexico will pay for. (Mexico's president says Mexico won't pay for it).
"It's a lose-lose proposition," Arturo Sarukhan, the former Mexican ambassador to the U.S., told CNN Friday. "The only losers will be the American and the Mexican peoples."
Trump's negative rhetoric is already hurting Mexico's currency, the peso. It's down 9% this year, partially due to Trump. Whenever Trump's poll numbers have improved this year, the peso has gone down.
Related: Mexico posts worst growth in 2 years
A weakening currency is not all bad news: it makes Mexico's exports more affordable -- and attractive -- to foreign buyers, and when Mexicans send money home to loved ones, they're getting more and more pesos.
Still, Mexico's economy is slowing down for other reasons right now. Low oil prices and government spending cuts were major reasons why Mexico posted its worst quarter of annual growth in two years on Monday.
And the peso's downturn is a sign that things would get much worse if Trump wins on Tuesday. Analysts predict that if Trump wins there would be a major sell-off in the peso, which would deeply hurt the country's struggling economy.
Ending NAFTA or slapping tariffs on Ford cars wouldn't be good for America either, trade experts say. According to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, 6 million U.S. jobs depend on trade with Mexico.
Now Mexican officials endure the calm before a potential storm.
"We hope we don't have to use," the contingency plan, Carstens told Milenio TV.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/04/news/ec ... index.html

[JackRiddler]

..there's the Ukraine I suppose....these parties are a bit like small planets drifting into a solar system where they start disrupting the established orbits of the larger existing planetary bodies...its their indirect effect that is the key element - to whit UKIP & Cameron calling the referendum, Sarkozy ripping-off Le Pen's talking points etc..

Yeah, this is more how it's been. Although you look at Hungary or Poland and of course it can also be an outright thing. And Le Pen being stopped is no certainty, all kinds of instability could happen in what looks currently like an easily panicked France. A country of wild and rapid mood swings, wouldn't you say?

[JackRiddler]

Adios, motherfuckers. The country is about to tell you to fuck off. And when next Tuesday is over, crawl back to your deplorable lives, eat shit, and disappear.

Like Lena Dunham, the Rude Pundit has got to be a Trump mole. Between them, they might well have tipped this "election" in his favour.

The effects can be seriously exaggerated. Several thousand Smug Liberals read the Rude Pundit for the undeserved confirmation of the views they already have. Another several thousand read him in order to whine about how edumacated liberal elites are so very mean to the well-meaning and holy-rolling white folk, who otherwise would not be celebrating a fucking Hitler caricature spawned by the WWE and endorsed by the KKK. The net effect on the actual well-meaning white folk, or on anyone else in larger numbers than that is, I submit, negligible. What is the reach of the Rude-Lena meanness compared to Trump's, by the way? Most everyone's already got their prejudices set long ago, and that was mostly true pre-Internet as well. And I mean, seriously, if your reaction (not yours, MacC, but your in a generic sense) to happening to run across some clickbait about Lena Dunham (who?) saying mean things about Trump voters is that -- whereas you weren't going to vote for him before -- now you will, because you don't like Lena Dunham, even though you have no clue what he or any other politician actually stands for politically, and don't care: then fuck you. It's just an excuse.

.

[seemslikeadream]

a couple of my favorite Rude Pundit headlines

Jason Chaffetz Thinks He Can Take Just the Tip of Trump's Dick

Republicans Will Shit on Your Lawn and Tell You It's Your Fault

Brief Note to Anti-Semites for Trump: Your Candidate Is More of a "Jew" Than Any Real Jew

"I've Got Guns" and Other Stupid Shit Sniveling Sore Losers Say About the Election

Donald Trump Gropes Innocent American Flag

Photos That Make Me Want to Shake Up a Bottle of Fullsteam Beer and Spray It in a Legislator's Face

Random Observations From Watching Hillary Clinton Sodomize Donald Trump Repeatedly Last Night

Melania Trump: Narcissist Wife Defends Narcissist Husband in the Most Narcissistic Way Possible


Yeah, Sorry, But Fuck Donald Trump's Supporters (and the GOP)

Trump Didn't Start the Fire, But You Fuckers Can Still Burn

Random Observations on Last Night's Debate Between Hillary Clinton and an Inflamed Asshole

Unless You're a Wizard, Shut the Fuck Up, Matt Drudge

[MacCruiskeen]

Adios, motherfuckers. The country is about to tell you to fuck off. And when next Tuesday is over, crawl back to your deplorable lives, eat shit, and disappear.

Like Lena Dunham, the Rude Pundit has got to be a Trump mole. Between them, they might well have tipped this "election" in his favour.

The effects can be seriously exaggerated. Several thousand Smug Liberals read the Rude Pundit for the undeserved confirmation of the views they already have. Another several thousand read him in order to whine about how edumacated liberal elites are so very mean to the well-meaning and holy-rolling white folk, who otherwise would not be celebrating a fucking Hitler caricature spawned by the WWE and endorsed by the KKK. The net effect on the actual well-meaning white folk, or on anyone else in larger numbers than that is, I submit, negligible. What is the reach of the Rude-Lena meanness compared to Trump's, by the way? Most everyone's already got their prejudices set long ago, and that was mostly true pre-Internet as well. And I mean, seriously, if your reaction (not yours, MacC, but your in a generic sense) to happening to run across some clickbait about Lena Dunham (who?) saying mean things about Trump voters is that -- whereas you weren't going to vote for him before -- now you will, because you don't like Lena Dunham, even though you have no clue what he or any other politician actually stands for politically, and don't care: then fuck you. It's just an excuse.

.

Sure. But I spent a depressing couple of hours looking at the Twitter accounts of some popular Trumpites yesterday, and things like the insufferable Dunham video or those crowing, bullying lines from the Rude Smugster do get passed around there and very quickly go viral. And both the video and the blogpost do express the real attitudes of real people. Which are attitudes of hatred and contempt and foolishly smug stupidity.

On the same Trumpite sites, this gets mixed in with grotesque speculation about (for example) ELITE SATANIC PAEDO ART ORGIES, which quickly becomes OMG FACT!!! on the basis of evidence that's thinner and less substantial than toilet paper. Those people are raging. They know that an entrenched and complacent ruling class detests and despises them, and there is absolutely no organised "Left" left to even attempt to offer them another way out.

For the record and in case there's any doubt about it: I could not bring myself to vote for either Trump or HClinton. That's how very clever and moral I am, from this distance. The US population, by contrast, is being told it has to choose between two intolerable alternatives and that it better choose The Good One. What's that, if not a classic Double Bind? So I don't doubt that many people who are not deplorable quasi-fascists will, in their helplessness, enter that private booth and pause for a minute and then think: "Nah, to hell with you Clintons and Bushes, I've had enough" and press the button for Trump.

They might regret it 24 hours later -- like many of the Brexit voters, some of whom were in tears of shame about it -- but for at least a few seconds they will have exercised some actual power, however petty and illusory and counterproductive it may turn out to be. And they could well swing it.

- I'm starting to repeat what I said about all this in the Prediction Data Dump. So, enough.

(Did you read Thomas Frank's article in the Guardian?)

[seemslikeadream]

yea I read his book


yes we know

things need to be worked on ...that doesn't mean we are going to vote for a Fascist

have you watched these?


Thomas Frank - The Wrecking Crew: How Conservatives Rule


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoG7J3r9Bqc

PITY THE BILLIONAIRE: THE HARD-TIMES SWINDLE AND THE UNLIKELY COMEBACK OF THE RIGHT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EaIuCIhsU8

[semper occultus]

....all kinds of instability could happen in what looks currently like an easily panicked France. A country of wild and rapid mood swings, wouldn't you say...?

Absolutely - I think its the absolute crux of Europe's destiny atm - ( far more than the incorrigibly semi-detached & obstructive UK .......which I am sure they would have been delighted about in more benign times ) as the apparent locus of the crises of terrorism and the euro-zone economy

I thought this article was extraordinary - by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in the Telegraph - he's a dry as dust High-Tory & can be a bit of a Cassandra but I do love his take on events :

snipping is a bit of an injustice to it - pasted here :

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=617602#p617602

A Pew survey of Europe in June found that 61pc of French voters have an “unfavourable” view of the EU, higher than in Britain. These sorts of polls keep cropping up in France. They are invariably dismissed as rogue findings.

Professor Thomas Guénolé from 'Sciences Po' in Paris warns against wishful thinking. "Incredible as it may seem, a referendum on 'Frexit' would probably be lost by the European side. As in the UK, 'leave' would win," he said.

[seemslikeadream]

The next time someone asks you to prove Donald Trump is a fascist, show them this 91-item list


By Patrick Hogan

Ask anyone following the 2016 election and they’ll tell you there have been no shortage of scary things that Donald Trump has said in the last year. But even the most jaded politico might be shocked to see just how long the list is when they’re all stacked together.

In a post in the Reddit forum “EnoughTrumpSpam,” Reddit user marisam7 compiled a master list of things to say to a person if they ask you, “Tell me why Trump is a fascist.” Each reason references an incident where Donald Trump or one of his surrogates actually said or did something authoritarian and links to documenting evidence.

It is a very long list with almost 100 items, and so far has received more than 4,000 upvotes from other Reddit users.




The post is a welcome counter to the popularity of Reddit as a home for Trump fans. Posts in the site’s most popular Trump forum, “The_Donald,” get thousands of upvotes a day. You can learn everything you need to know about The_Donald from the a post made by moderators on the site this morning.


Around the time this post was made, Trump’s campaign had just announced the candidate would be doing an “AMA”-style question and answer post on the site later this week. Keep marisam7’s post bookmarked. You might need it.