Ruppert

[OnoI812]

Mike Ruppert will make an appearance on coast to coast tonight.<br><br>www.coasttocoastam.com <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=onoi812>OnoI812</A> at: 1/12/06 6:48 pm<br></i>

[IMO]

<br><br> Ruppert has been nabbed and threatened by the Oil industry<br><br> The energy people and the rest of the elites, who are the SERIOUS powerbrokers, couldnt really give a fuck about who did 9/11.<br><br>Thats one of the major reasons it happened. <br><br> MIHOP.<br><br> What better than to 'get to' one of the guys who blew the whole thing out of the water. <p></p><i></i>

[IMO]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>What better than to 'get to' one of the guys who blew the whole thing out of the water<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Particularly if this guy has fallen for ( and is thus promoting ) the Peak Oil lie.<br><br> Energy prices go thru the roof when we shouldnt be fucking paying for it.<br><br> Half of the 9/11 movement become converted.<br><br> Brilliant. <p></p><i></i>

[manxkat]

"Ruppert has been nabbed and threatened by the Oil industry"<br><br>I don't buy it. Ruppert isn't easily intimidated by anyone, first of all, as his past history shows. Secondly, he's essentially a nobody on the world stage and has little influence, as far as I am aware. How would the oil industry benefit from threatening a nobody?<br><br>My view is that <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>both</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> Peak Oil and price gouging are real. Why should they be mutually exclusive?<br><br>OnoI812, did you hear the debate? Anyone else?<br> <p></p><i></i>

[IMO]

<br> Manxcat.<br><br> If you or Ruppert or any other serious individual on the alternative side of this world can tell me with a straight face that this entire peak oil thing isnt a pile of complete and utter money making bullshit , since we dont even need the stuff, then I'm Pope Gregory the Ninth.<br><br> Im not suggesting that Ruppert quite probably did believe the bull for a good while. <br><br> Perhaps exposing the energy lie for what it really is , should be our approach ?<br><br> For make no mistake, a huge laugh in yer face, control ya, tax ya, exploit ya lie by the usual suspects is all that this is.<br><br> Read Nashvillebrooks 'dead hillbilly' post on the "search for Zero point energy" thread. <br><br> Then whet your appetite with a search on Tesla. And then, and then, and then..............SCREAM ............and having done so, quietly suggest to all you meet that this whole energy thing is a big fuck off lie. Is it just me , or is this so stupidly obvious its not even funny ?<br> After all, we all hope to speak the truth right ? <p></p><i></i>

[manxkat]

IMO,<br><br>Thanks for your thoughts. I can imagine your frustration with the idea of Peak Oil, given that you believe that free energy exists and we're all being used. You could be right. But after reading various threads here for some time concerning various alternative energy producing machines, I'm can't say I'm a believer, but I can say that I believe it's quite possible.<br><br>The problem, it seems to me, is that in our real world (regardless of how much a lie it all might be), oil and natural gas have been the life blood of our civilization for over 100 years. Maybe it's all just a cruel joke that we've become dependent on something that isn't really necessary. Ok, probably not a cruel joke, but just a mega-money-making scheme, if I read you right.<br><br>The difficulty for me is in knowing how to respond in a practical way. This past year, I invested in solar panels for generating some electricity for my home and my family. I'm not wealthy and it took a fair amount of my retirement savings, cashed in early, in order to do it. There's no question that in my little world here at home, taking care of those I love requires finding ways to become energy independent in a practical way. Solar isn't efficient and is very expensive for the amount of energy you get in return, but it works and it's available. That's the bottom line for me.<br><br>If indeed there are viable methods for generating energy at little to no cost, I would love to know about them. Until then, I'm stuck in the physical world that the powers-that-be control. At least they don't control my psychological and spiritual world very much (at least, not to the extent that they control many others, especially in Amerika).<br> <p></p><i></i>

[IMO]

<br><br> I remember not too long ago now, a NASA press conference - probably one of the shortest on record - which explained how they were all excited about finding water on the moon, because that was the source of energy that could get them to Mars .<br><br> Remember that ? I can - Plain as day.<br><br> What isnt on the record from that conference too often is the fact that some guy ( God bless him ) stood up and said ;<br><br> "well if we can fly to Mars using the power of water, isnt it time we learnt how to power energy on earth via the same means ?"<br><br> End press conference.<br><br> End little story. <p></p><i></i>

[Iroquois]

The conventional idea about using water for fuel for rockets is to first separate it into hydrogen and oxygen, in other words: using electrolysis. This, unfortunately, consumes more power than is generated by either burning the hydrogen or using it in a fuel cell after. For a rocket, however, the mass to energy ratio of the hydrogen and oxygen fuels is (or, needs to be to make sense) better than the nuclear or solar device that separates them.<br><br>Many have claimed to have low energy electrolysis devices, but none are available to plebs like me. <p></p><i></i>

[pugzleyca3]

I too seriously doubt peak oil is more than a money making scam of humongous proportions. I mean, really, who tells us how much oil there is? <br><br>I wish I could tell my customers that there is a shortage on my goods I sell and that I have to jack my prices sky high and they had to believe me based on nothing more than my own words which in turn make me stinking filthy rich. How far do you think I'd get with a story like that since people can buy my goods elsewhere and are able to get independent, unbiased information? <br><br>This boils down to monopoly and monopoly of information. <br><br>Since oil and gas are so high on the list of importance and are now basic necessities of life as we know it and lots of others in the world know it, you'd think that the prudent thing to do would be to have an independent survey of oil fields world wide to keep these guys in check. But...that ain't gonna happen because that would require someone who is not corrupt to do it. <br><br>Also, what really blows my mind is when tid bits like the one you posted here about the water powering us to Mars gets out in press conferences and the like. What is that? Is this an honest person opening his mouth by accident or what? I've read so many things which seem totally outlandish that anyone would say who had a brain in their head and wanted to keep it a secret. And they are said in public. I just don't get this kind of thing. Are they stupid? Careless? Or what is it?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[anotherdrew]

tesla never claimed to have free energy worked out. The most "non-standard" claim I thought he made was that it could be transmitted wirelessly. he made a lot of claims toward the end, but as far as I can tell, he always used standard machinery to generate his electrical power. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=anotherdrew>anotherdrew</A> at: 1/13/06 12:25 am<br></i>

[IMO]

<br><br> Big Oil kill people who try and burst their bubble.<br><br> Ask Stan Meyers, Diesel, and co.<br><br> I know of people personally who have had their lives ruined for trying to give people free energy.<br><br> kindly dont try and suggest this is all just folklore. Big oil companies such as any you can mention made 10.9 billion in a quarter <br><br> Reckon they could flick a couple of mill here and there to surpress free energy ? Reckon they could intimidate and murder people who object ? Reckon they dont have friends in the Bushes - forgive the Pun <br><br> C'mon folks. <br> <br> LOL. <p></p><i></i>

[anotherdrew]

well which of the myriad devices actually work then? Because I have no idea which ones work, there are many seemingly credible demonstrations, yet... doesn't seem like something anyone can just buy from anyone...<br><br>Eugene Malove may have been one of the more recent victems. <p></p><i></i>

[Pirx]

Nuclear steam for space propulsion-<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.neofuel.com/">www.neofuel.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

I don't like Ruppert. But that's been made clear in other threads. I hope not too many of Jeff's readers sent him too much money so he could by his house in the Pacific Northwest. <br><br>I was curious about the NASA part of this discussion. Relatively speaking, even when lined up correctly, the moon is not really much closer to Mars than the earth is. So why would water on the moon be helpful for getting to Mars?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[heath7]

Free energy will revolutionize our world. Its only a matter of time. When free energy arrives, those who wish to unbound themselves from this wealth-powerful culture will have free reign. The future is so bright, and I don't see the dark forces being able to hold it back for much longer.<br><br>Its not about which device works. Its about the inherent power of magnets; its about 100+ ft. trees bringing water to the top from the ground without noisy, messy machines (Schauberger); its about the gi-normous amounts of sunlight beaming onto this world unharnessed (solar cell technology is, so far, a joke); its about harnessing the power of lightning (its already known how to attract lightning, now all we need are super capacitors and super batteries); and how hard can it really be to seperate hydrogen from water (I've read about experiments that incorporate high frequency vibrations to stretch the water molecules so that they require way less energy to break apart); it goes on and on. Once one device takes us off the grid, I feel sure more will closely follow.<br><br>Someone, and I believe not too far off, is going to Orville and Wilbur us right into the zero-point age.<br><br>Almost the entire oil age was a ruse because whenever any of these technologies became threatening to oil, they were methodically wiped from practical existence, fortunately all the science still exists. <br><br>It was a complex trick that big-oil/big-money played on us. Energy has never been so expensive that people demanded alternatives, and we were all effectively bound to 'civilization' because that's where cheap energy comes from. Now as energy becomes too expensive, bright minds are starting to realize that oil isn't just costing us a lot of money, its also costing us a lot of freedom, freedom that we will soon regain. <p></p><i></i>