The Lords and the New Creatures

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The Lords and the New Creatures

Postby Mentalgongfu » Wed May 31, 2006 12:49 am

and the Lizard King. <br><br>something here triggered my desire to post this a while ago, but I couldn't find my book. I found it. Here it is. <br><br>James Douglas Morrison, aka Jim Morrison of The Doors, was a wordsmith of high order and, in my belief, had something more to tell us. From the collection of poems which is the title of this thread, page 89. <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The Lords. Events take place beyond our knowledge or control. Our lives are lived for us. We can only try to enslave others. But gradually, special perceptions are being developed. The idea of the "Lords" is beginning to form in some minds. We should enlist them into bands of perceivers to tour the labyrinth during their mysterious nocturnal appearances. The Lords have secret entrances, and they know disguises. But they give themselves away in minor ways. Too much glint of light in the eye. A wrong gesture. Too long and curious a glance. <br><br>The Lords appease us with images. They give us books, concerts, galleries, shows, cinemas. Especially the cinemas. Through art they confuse us and blind us to our enslavement. Art adorns our prison walls, keeps us silent and diverted and indifferent. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The Lords and the New Creatures

Postby Mentalgongfu » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:02 pm

a few more choice selections from the book in a vain, egoistic attempt to get some action on this thread. <br><br>Hugh Manatee, don't miss the quotes re: cinema. <br><br>It takes large murder to turn rocks in the shade <br>and expose strange worms beneath. The lives of<br>our discontented madmen are revealed. <br>p. 16<br><br><br>There are no longer "dancers," the possessed.<br>The cleavage of men into actor and spectators <br>is the central fact of our time. We are obsessed<br>with heroes who live for us and whom we punish.<br>If all the radios and televisions were deprived<br>of their sources of power, all books and paintings<br>burned tomorrow, all shows and cinemas closed,<br>all the arts of vicarious existence. . . <br><br>We are content with the "given" in sensation's <br>quest. We have been metamorphosised from a mad<br>body dancing on hillsides to a pair of eyes<br>staring in the dark. <br> p.29<br><br><br><br>More or less, we're all afflicted with the psychology<br>of the voyeur. Not in a strictly clinical or<br>criminal sense, but in our whole physical and<br> emotional<br>stance before the world. Whenever we seek to break this spell of passivity, our actions are cruel and <br>akward and generally obscene, like an invalid who<br>has forgotten how to walk. <br>p.39<br><br><br><br>Cinema is the most totalitarian of the arts. All <br>energy and sensation is sucked up into the skull,<br>a cerebral erection, skull bloated with blood. <br>Caligula wished a single neck for all his subjects<br>that he could behad a kingdom with one blow. <br>Cinema is this transforming agent. The body<br>exists for the sake of the eyes; it becomes a <br>dry stalk to support these two soft insatiable<br>jewels. <br>p.51<br><br><br>It is wrong to assume that art needs the spectator <br>in order to be. The film runs on without any eyes.<br>The spectator cannot exist without it. It insures<br>his existence. <br>p.73<br><br><br>Strange, fertile correspondences the alchemists<br>sensed in unlikely orders of being. Between <br>men and planets, plants and gestures, words and<br>weather. These disturbing connections: an in-<br>fants cry and the stroke of silk; the whorl <br>of an ear and an appearance of dogs in the yard;<br>a woman's head lowered in sleep and the morning<br>dance of cannibals; these are conjuctions which<br>transcend the sterile signal of any "willed"<br>montage. These juxtapositions of objects, sounds,<br>actions, colors, weapons, wounds and odors shine<br>in an unheard-of way, impossible ways. <br><br>Film is nothing when not an illumination of<br>this chain of being which makes a needle poised<br>in flesh call up explosions in a foreign capital. <br>p.86<br><br>....<br><br>Just a taste. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=mentalgongfu@rigorousintuition>Mentalgongfu</A> at: 6/2/06 6:16 pm<br></i>
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Re: The Lords and the New Creatures

Postby pugzleyca3 » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:34 pm

I never thought of watching television or movies as an act of voyerism before.<br><br>But, what else is it? We are watching something and doing nothing, other than reacting in our own minds with emotions the images evoke. <br><br>This is really creepy, when you think about it. The only consolation I have about this, is the fact that what is shown on television or in the movies is produced for the purpose and with the knowledge of the actors that people will watch it. <br><br>But, what of us who are the voyers? <br><br>Is watching something on a screen for so many hours a day,which has nothing to do with reality (more or less--unless you are watching a documentary to "learn" something that furthers an education) a normal state of being for humans who in their very nature thrive with actual physical human contact?<br><br>Does this lack of physical contact change us?<br><br>Many people sound like the television or movie when they speak, they dress like it, sound like it and live like it and many people are suffering from boredom because they compare their own reality to what they see on these screens?<br><br>This voyerism can be as damaging as breaking up homes and families, when someone is so obsessed with the tv that they no longer pay attention to what is going on around them. eg. The man who is totally addicted to sports.<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=pugzleyca3>pugzleyca3</A> at: 6/1/06 7:38 pm<br></i>
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Does this lack of physical contact change us?

Postby * » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:44 pm

<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.causeof.org/brainwaves.htm">"Psychophysiologist Thomas Mulholland found that after just 30 seconds of watching television the brain begins to produce alpha waves, which indicates torpid (almost comatose) [slow] rates of activity. Alpha brain waves are associated with unfocused, overly receptive states of consciousness. A high frequency alpha waves [sic] does not occur normally when the eyes are open. In fact, Mulholland’s research implies that watching television is neurologically analogous to staring at a blank wall.<br><br> I should note that the goal of hypnotists is to induce slow brain wave states. Alpha waves are present during the 'light hypnotic' state used by hypno-therapists for suggestion therapy." </a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Does this lack of physical contact change us?

Postby bvonahsen » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:02 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> I never thought of watching television or movies as an act of voyerism before.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Really? Wow, ever hear of <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.lacan.com/lacan1.htm" target="top">Jacques Lacan?</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Also take a looksee at <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.lacan.com/covers.htm" target="top">Lacan Ink.</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&lr=&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=lacan+Slavoj+Zizek&btnG=Search" target="top">Slavoj Zizek</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> is the most well known interpreters of Lacan's thinking these days.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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TV is a tool for control...

Postby johnny nemo » Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:50 pm

The PTB have been using it telling us how to dress, act and think for over 50 years.<br><br>But there are some that are trying to use it to change things.<br>It's called culture jamming.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.adbusters.org/network/about_us.php" target="top">read all about it</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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teevee rotts yr brane

Postby Mentalgongfu » Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:01 pm

"Many people sound like the television or movie when they speak, they dress like it, sound like it and live like it and many people are suffering from boredom because they compare their own reality to what they see on these screens?"<br><br>Neil Postman wrote that the question of our modern media age was no longer "To be or not to be?" but instead "What's that from?"<br><br>I decided that statement had a lot of merit after I gave up cable television for a while and found myself unable to contribute to numerous conversations, because they were all about TV shows I had never seen <br><br>Perhaps the voyeuristic and passive nature of television can help explain why angry Americans have not taken up the torch of protest, marched in the streets, etc., as so many activists perpetually urge. <br><br>I know quite a few "armchair revolutionaries" who would enthusiastically cheer on a riot at the state capitol over electronic voting machines or some other issue, if it were on television, but would never expend the effort to attend such an event. <br><br>"We have been metamorphosised from a mad<br>body dancing on hillsides to a pair of eyes<br>staring in the dark. " -JDM <p></p><i></i>
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Re: teevee rotts yr brane

Postby monster » Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:57 am

Very cool picture of Jim Morrison's ghost:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/hollywood_diaries/ghost_of_jim_morrison/">www.rockandrollbadboy.com..._morrison/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Jim Morrison is an interesting character, but I don't think I would have liked him personally, he seems too dark and self-destructive. (I have the same birthday as the Lizard King, December 8.) <p></p><i></i>
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