Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

[MacCruiskeen]

WHO IS JESUS CAMPOS? LAS VEGAS SECURITY GUARD RAISES NEW QUESTIONS ABOUT SHOOTING

As questions spiral about a significant shift in the timeline of the Las Vegas shooting, a security guard stands in the middle of the controversy: Jose Campos.

At first, Campos, a guard at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, was hailed a hero for helping guide police to gunman Stephen Paddock's room on the 32nd floor. Police said Campos was shot in the leg at the end of Paddock's assault on concertgoers—potentially distracting the gunman and causing him to panic and kill himself.

What? LOL.

But now, questions have been raised after Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo revised the timeline and said Campos had actually been shot about 9:59 p.m.—a full six minutes before the mass shooting began at 10:05 p.m.—which means the guard could have instead led Paddock to start opening fire on the crowd for fear of being caught.

What? LOL.

Police have said it was difficult to identify the source of the bullets during the attack,

That is a plain lie. If all those rounds were really fired from that highly visible 32nd-floor corner suite, there can never have been the slightest difficulty "sourcing the bullets during the attack" -- especially after Campos had been shot minutes previously through the closed door of the very same corner suite, before two separate broken windows fell 32 storeys to the hotel forecourt from the very same corner suite.

and the confusion added more minutes to their lengthy response. But the revised timeline shows officers would have known where Paddock the shooter was before the mass shooting even started.

Indeed.

Did Campos call 911?

Ask the police. They'll have recorded the call if he did.

What happened during those six minutes?

Someone was allowed to continue preparing and carrying out a massacre at his leisure.

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On Tuesday, Las Vegas Metro Police Undersheriff Kevin McMahill explained more about Campos's actions the night of the shooting, helping fill in some of what happened ahead of the attack.

He told KNPR, a local NPR affiliate, that Campos went up to the 32nd floor to investigate a door alarm. While on the 32nd floor, he found that a stairwell door was jammed and radioed down to maintenance.

Campos heard a drilling sound and thought it was odd. A maintenance worker came up to the 32nd floor. As the pair started talking, Paddock someone began firing through the door of his Paddock's room, first with a single-fire gun and then with a rapid-fire rifle.

Why? Why fire at them at all? According to this account, they hadn't even knocked on his door yet.

Above all: Why fire through a closed door? Why attract attention without ensuring that you kill your target or even reliably hit him?

One thing that closed door did achieve: The shooter was never identified. No one witnesssed Stephen Paddock firing any gun at all in the Mandalay Hotel. Not Jesus Campos. Not the mysterious unnamed "maintenance man". No one. Nobody ever saw Stephen Paddock firing even one gun there.

Police have said that when Campos radioed what happened, it helped them track where Paddock was holed up.

Oh ffs, they never had to "track" him. He was "holed up" in the same hotel room he had signed into days previously under his own fucking name, the same hotel room he was found dead in, the same hotel room where someone shot Jesus Campos through the door (with impunity), then smashed two separate windows in two separate rooms (still without attracting the slightest attention), and then used an arsenal of machine-guns to conduct a cacophonous ten-minute massacre of random people on the streets below -- all the while perfectly undisturbed and allegedly unseen & unheard & unlocatable.

McMahill didn’t elaborate on the six minutes or why police found it difficult to locate Paddock when, according to the new timeline, they had his location minutes before the assault started.

Well, he wouldn't, would he? Because he can't. Is it possible that the Feds have his balls in a vice?

“I understand why people are frustrated with this because we are as well, The Feds have our balls in a vice.” McMahill told KNPR.

Though he doesn't say so explicitly, I suspect that the Feds have his balls in a vice.

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Let's review: Mac speculates that the Feds have McMahill's balls in a vice. In the next sentence, he quotes McMahill as saying the Feds actually do have his balls in a vice, but coincidentally edits out that part of the quote. Then he SUSPECTS the Feds have his balls in a vice.

Is everyone clear on that?

[MacCruiskeen]

^^Quality post there, mini-you.

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Back on-topic:

Campos heard a drilling sound and thought it was odd. A maintenance worker came up to the 32nd floor. As the pair started talking, Paddock someone began firing through the door of his Paddock's room, first with a single-fire gun and then with a rapid-fire rifle.

And all through a closed door.

How many gunmen were in that room?

[minime]

Mac, if I absolutely had to guess, I would say that you're 40% chakra 1, 10% chakra 2, 50% chakra 3, with little to spare--roughly speaking of course.

[minime]

^^Quality post there, mini-you.

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Back on-topic:

Campos heard a drilling sound and thought it was odd. A maintenance worker came up to the 32nd floor. As the pair started talking, Paddock someone began firing through the door of his Paddock's room, first with a single-fire gun and then with a rapid-fire rifle.

And all through a closed door.

How many gunmen were in that room?

You go first.

[stickdog99]

Anyway, I'm interested in Jesus Campos. If I were him I might have headed for the countryside while I had the chance. He's probably not going to be a hero for long. JMO.

I'd suggest a different countryside.

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Anyway, I'm interested in Jesus Campos. If I were him I might have headed for the countryside while I had the chance. He's probably not going to be a hero for long. JMO.

I'd suggest a different countryside.

Campos being Spanish for countryside... maybe a Spanish countryside.

It's also a commonly-used example of a false friend, not that I'm insinuating anything by that.

[MacCruiskeen]

Las Vegas massacre gunman had a NORMAL brain: Autopsy finds 'no abnormalites' that could have driven him to kill 58 innocent people

Joe Lombardo said Stephen Paddock investigation has not revealed a motive
Clark County sheriff said exam showed 'no abnormalities' with Paddock's brain
Meanwhile girlfriend Marilou Danley had 'no concerns' over his mental health
Lombardo added that 'we may never know' why he killed 58 innocent people

Paddock had arrived in the city three days earlier than originally thought, but stayed in a different room that was provided free of charge by the hotel.
When he moved to the corner suite from which he carried out the massacre, the hotel began charging him for the stay.
Police initially only counted charged days, hence the confusion, Lombardo said. [What?]
Lombardo said his team had reviewed hours of CCTV footage, and were not aware of any evidence to suggest he went into the desert to practice shooting in the days before the massacre, or that he hired a prostitute, as has been reported.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... brain.html

[Brentos]

So how does the new timeline for Campos affect the maintenance worker's story? Has that evolved too?
Based on this comment from the dailymail link:

"Except for this, Campos said he was shot before any of the other shootings. The maintenance man said the shooting started, then Campos told him (the maintenance guy) to 'get down', then the shooter began firing down the hallway. Why would the security guard lie about when he was shot, if the maintenance guy is to be believed?...."

edit: I dont see any inconsistencies in this report:

from https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-v ... ge-n809726

"A hotel maintenance worker says he barely escaped unscathed when Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock opened fire down a hallway — and credited a hotel security guard with saving his life.

"When the first shooting started, I was kind of frozen for a second," worker Stephen Schuck said Wednesday on "TODAY." "He yelled at me, 'Take cover! Take cover!' If he yelled a second too late, I would have been shot."

Schuck said he came upon security guard Jesus Campos, who was unarmed and injured in his leg, as Paddock fired more than 200 bullets into the hall and nearby rooms at the beginning of his deadly rampage on Oct. 1. "I am incredibly blessed that somehow I came out of there alive," Schuck added."

[MacCruiskeen]

So much for the quality of the soundproofing in the Mandalay:

October 6, 2017, 10:30 AM
Stephen Paddock, Las Vegas shooter, called hotel security [just one night] before rampage

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On the night before Stephen Paddock carried out the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history, he twice called security at the Las Vegas hotel where he was staying to complain about loud music, a law enforcement source told CBS News.

The noise was coming from the floor below his suite on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel casino on the Las Vegas Strip, CBS News senior investigative producer Pat Milton reports.

Albert Garzon of San Diego told The New York Times that security guards asked him to turn down the country music playing in his suite on the 31st floor at around 1:30 a.m. Sunday, a little over 20 hours before the rampage on a country music festival. When different security guards paid Garzon another visit about his music a half-hour later, he turned it off.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stephen-pa ... y-rampage/

So music from one floor below was loud enough to be very annoying. But 200 bullets fired through the closed door of his room at a passing security guard provoked not one single complaint from the other guests? To say nothing of the cacophonous massacre that followed six minutes later.

Were any bullets ever fired from that hotel room at all?

[stefano]

On the night before Stephen Paddock carried out the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history, he twice called security at the Las Vegas hotel where he was staying to complain about loud music, a law enforcement source told CBS News.

Ha, that's pretty funny.

[stefano]

That story about "200 rounds through the door" is such bullshit as well, hey. What can really be left of a door after that? Perhaps enough that the cops wouldn't have to spend 60 minutes after the end of the shooting scouting for the shooter's room? Or enough that it wouldn't be quite necessary for the SWAT team to blow it down using explosives?

[stefano]

Earlier, senior law enforcement sources said investigators were puzzled by a charger that did not appear to match any of Paddock’s cellphones. Police have now been able to match all of the cell phone chargers found in the room with multiple cell phones that Paddock had with him.

...and that's as much as we will be permitted to learn.

I was wondering earlier whether the restriction of information in and of itself might not be a tactic of social control: a deliberate choice is being made to react to a traumatic event in the least helpful and informative way possible. What results? A society that goes to loons and bullshit artists for advice or wisdom, divided along ever-finer ideological splits,suspicious of itself and glassily breakable.

[MacCruiskeen]

That story about "200 rounds through the door" is such bullshit as well, hey. What can really be left of a door after that? Perhaps enough that the cops wouldn't have to spend 60 minutes after the end of the shooting scouting for the shooter's room? Or enough that it wouldn't be quite necessary for the SWAT team to blow it down using explosives?

It is total bullshit, a complete lie, like this entire incredible yarn. Two hundred bullets would have destroyed that door completely -- thereby making it much easier for security forces to see exactly where he was and what he was up to, not to mention making it much easier for them to enter the damn room.

There was absolutely no good reason for the shooter(s) to fire even one bullet through that closed door anyway. Didn`t they care about attracting attention before carrying out their big massacre? Didn`t they worry about being caught? Did they in fact know that they had all the time in the world?

Stephen Paddock is innocent until proven guilty. Therefore, as of October 11, Stephen Paddock is most definitely still innocent.

[Cordelia]

So much for the quality of the soundproofing in the Mandalay:

October 6, 2017, 10:30 AM
Stephen Paddock, Las Vegas shooter, called hotel security [just one night] before rampage

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On the night before Stephen Paddock carried out the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history, he twice called security at the Las Vegas hotel where he was staying to complain about loud music, a law enforcement source told CBS News.

The noise was coming from the floor below his suite on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel casino on the Las Vegas Strip, CBS News senior investigative producer Pat Milton reports.

Albert Garzon of San Diego told The New York Times that security guards asked him to turn down the country music playing in his suite on the 31st floor at around 1:30 a.m. Sunday, a little over 20 hours before the rampage on a country music festival. When different security guards paid Garzon another visit about his music a half-hour later, he turned it off.

[...]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stephen-pa ... y-rampage/

So music from one floor below was loud enough to be very annoying. But 200 bullets fired through the closed door of his room at a passing security guard provoked not one single complaint from the other guests? To say nothing of the cacophonous massacre that followed six minutes later.

Were any bullets ever fired from that hotel room at all?

Exactly; I posted an article about that back on page 21, with this in mind:

Wait, if Garzon is to be believed, a sniper would call attention to himself by calling security (twice) to complain about another guest?