How to Overthrow the Illuminati

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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby coffin_dodger » Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:12 am

BPH said:
But the anti-science, religious numbskulls


Conflating anyone that disagrees with the tenets of modern science - with religious sanctimony is lazy and increasingly predictable. It's akin to a 14th century religious zealot pointing at a non-believer and crying "burn the heretic! ".

There are a number of people that are neither pro-religion or pro-current scientific thinking.

You shouldn't believe everything that those whom you consider to be your 'intellectual superiors' tell you.
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby redsock » Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:18 pm

"When I was working for a major broadcasting conglomerate, I passed the time sneaking cult symbols into its affiliates' news graphics. I don't really know why I did it. Maybe because I'm just easily amused. ... I’d find a way to incorporate something in the graphics, usually small and out of the way—maybe a reference to the Illuminati or Freemasonry—just to fuck with anyone who noticed it. I also liked using symbols created by John Dee, who was a 16th century alchemist and occultist, like the esoteric Monas Hieroglyphica, or just simple, but well-known things like the pentagram or the eye in the pyramid. I wasn’t doing it because the news was so obviously right-wing, but doing it made me feel a little bit better about myself at the end of the day ...


http://www.hopesandfears.com/hopes/now/ ... ews-hidden
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby American Dream » Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:59 pm

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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby American Dream » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:17 am

http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/let-them-drink-blood/

Let Them Drink Blood
By A.M. GITTLITZ

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Silicon Valley futurists plan to live forever by harvesting both the labor and the body parts of the working class

SILICON Valley’s elites are a revolutionary vanguard party developing the not-too-distant future of cybernetic capitalist reconstruction. Despite cultish personas and massive social influence, however, they tend to keep their politics on the low. That changed this year when Peter Thiel, PayPal founder and Facebook board member, who also has investments in SpaceX and data analysis firm Palantir, revealed himself as mastermind of the litigious assassination of Gawker, a fellow-traveler of right-libertarian White Nationalists, and a prominent supporter of President-elect Donald J. Trump.

Thiel’s “Don’t Be Evil” competitors now look like saints in comparison. Some colleagues distanced themselves, while others wrote off the endorsement as part of his “disruptive instinct” to break down regulations preventing his Founders Fund investments from expanding. Then, in August, it was rumored that Thiel bragged to friends that Trump promised to nominate him to the Supreme Court, which would make him one of the most powerful men in America for a lifetime term. And Peter Thiel plans to live for a long time. He has a personal and financial stake in life extension technologies, including “parabiosis”–the (theoretically) rejuvenating transfer of young blood to an older person.

For those outside the valley, Thiel’s vampiric ambitions appeared to vindicate populist imagery dating back to Voltaire, who wrote in his Philosophical Dictionary that the real vampires were “stock-jobbers, brokers, and men of business, who sucked the blood of the people in broad daylight.” A century of trite political cartoons have depicted moguls or aristocrats growing fat on the blood of innocents. Most recently, Matt Taibbi’s popular description of Goldman Sachs as a “vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity,” revivified this discourse as a conceptual rallying point of Occupy Wall Street. It was a sentiment that even played out in the campaigns of Sanders, and to a far worse extent, Trump, who towards the end of his campaign regularly parroted Infowars radio host Alex Jones’s discourse about a world-dominating conspiracy of shadowy globalists.

“Elites around the world have been obsessed with blood for thousands of years,” Jones said in an Infowars video this summer concerning Thiel. He goes on to argue that elites throughout history, including the British Royal Family, have undergone similar parabiotic treatments for decades. “Where the story really gets weird,” Jones opined, “is that Prince Charles came out in the last decade and said I am a direct descendent of Vlad the Impaler… the people running things aren’t physical, immortal vampires, but they have the spirit of what you describe as a vampire, and they believe their god, Lucifer, if they establish a world government, is going to give them eternal life. And now they’re mainlining the idea of baby parts and blood from the young to make the rich live longer.”

Dropping in Dracula’s relation to the British Monarchy would be irrelevant for a journalist, but for a conspiracist like Jones, the detail is delicious enough to aid both his legitimate thesis–that the rich and powerful treat the world’s populations as nothing but commodities–and the farfetched one: Thiel, despite being a fellow traveler of Jones’ paleoconservatism, is an early adopter of technology that would free him from the eternal hellfire he would otherwise be due through his deals with the devil. Jones warns that Thiel’s fellow globalists will continue to push wars, cancer-causing vaccines, and abortions in a eugenic blood-ritual to depopulate the world by 80% and install a one-world government.

Thiel’s visionary investments suggest a similar blurring of science fiction, paranoia, and plausible dystopian scenarios. In a 2009 essay for Cato Unbound, he stated his anti-national principles: “I stand against confiscatory taxes, totalitarian collectives, and the ideology of the inevitability of the death of every individual.”

So what’s standing in the way of a “death and taxes”-optional world? The same thing that fellow frontier industrialist Daniel Plainview lamented in 2007’s There Will Be Blood: People. Poor and female ones, specifically. “Since 1920,” Thiel continued, “the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women–two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians–have rendered the notion of ‘capitalist democracy’ into an oxymoron.”

“Because there are no truly free places left in our world, I suspect that the mode for escape must involve some sort of new and hitherto untried process that leads us to some undiscovered country; and for this reason I have focused my efforts on new technologies that may create a new space for freedom.” He outlines three such spaces: artificial island micronations, the Internet, and space colonies. He’s invested heavily in all three, including SpaceX, which plans to colonize Mars. Now, he’s a member of Trump’s transition team. In a potential sign of Thiel’s influence in the new administration, the President-elect’s senior adviser on NASA recently announced that funds for studying climate change will be diverted to deep space exploration.

Thiel’s plan to locate and conquer space to build a libertarian utopia closely follows the deus ex machina of Atlas Shrugged–a perpetual motion machine that allowed the libertopia Galt’s Gulch to become a fully-automated bourgeois paradise without need for whiney workers. But even if the pretense of these microstates were egalitarian (and not the aristocratic Reichlets described by Thiel’s mentor and lead thinker of the Property and Freedom Society, right-libertarian economist Hans-Hermann Hoppe), the Communist Manifesto’s critique of utopian ambition in literature is fitting:

They still dream of experimental realization of their social Utopias, of founding isolated “phalansteries,” of establishing “Home Colonies,” or setting up a “Little Icaria,” duodecimo editions of the New Jerusalem. By degrees, they sink into the category of the reactionary [or] conservative Socialists depicted above, differing from these only by more systematic pedantry, and by their fanatical and superstitious belief in the miraculous effects of their social science.

They, therefore, violently oppose all political action on part of the working class; such action, according to them, can only result from blind unbelief in the new Gospel.


Before Thiel and the broader space-race-boosterism science fiction canon, futurology was a misguided socialist enterprise as described by Marx. Some of Thiel’s aspirations were even disastrously attempted in the 20s and 30s by two Bolshevik factions calling themselves the God-Builders and Biocosmist-Immortalists. The writers Gorky, Lunacharsky, Malevich, and Bogdanov were amongst their ranks, and all inspired by Russian Orthodox philosopher and mystic Nikolai Fyodorov, who advocated life extension and space colonization in technological culmination of the Book of Revelation. When Lenin died, Vladimir Mayakovsky’s declaration of “Lenin lived, Lenin lives, Lenin will live forever!” represented the sentiments of his peers, who preserved his body, organs, and brain, in hopes they could revive him.

Alexander Bogdanov, a cofounder of the Bolshevik party and Lenin’s one-time rival, was a particularly Thielian figure in the group. In 1905, Bogdanov wrote the science fiction novel Red Star, depicting a communist society on Mars where parabiosis was practiced as a form of mutual aid. Two decades after writing Red Star, Bogdanov founded the State Institute for Haematology and Blood Transfusions. He subjected himself to these transfusions, and died from a botched trial–a fitting metaphor for a revolutionary killed by his own “fanatical and superstitious belief in the miraculous power of their social sciences.”

By the 1930’s, some remaining Immortalists were making the case for Stalinist terror. Writing for Pravda, Gorky described peasants resisting collectivization and their starving orphaned children as “masses of parasites… rats, mice, gophers,” who must be wiped out because they “do the economy of the country a great deal of harm.” In his book The Immortalization Commission, contemporary philosopher John Gray argues that extermination fit well with the transhumanist foundation of God-Building. Following Lenin’s promise that the peasants will “worship electricity,” God-Builders believed once industrialized, the Soviet Union would advance its technological capabilities to fulfill the Christian eschatology by liberating the New Soviet man from the constraints of mortality, terrestriality, and embodiment. Similar to Kurzweil’s “singularity,” Gray calls it a “materialist rapture” in which:

The dead will be resurrected by the power of science. Severing their links with the flesh, humans will enter a deathless realm. Lower life forms–plants, animals and unregenerate humans–will be left behind, or else eradicated. All that will remain will be the “pure thought” Gorky envisioned in his conversation with Blok–infinite, immortal energy.


In a way, Gorky was right. During the years of the New Economic Policy (1921-1928), state power centralized to a point that its revolutionary goals only existed in the “pure thought” of elevated apparatchiks. Outside the party, political obstacles were easily dealt with by the secret police, and the theory of Socialism in One Country turned the Soviet Union into a SimCity terrain to be built and destroyed as Stalin pleased. Although the Bolsheviks formed their party in a reaction to the horrors of industrial capital and World War I, it’s no surprise that the cruelty and terror used to consolidate their power resulted in a totalitarian society.

Thiel views the world much like the early Soviet futurists. Their utopian dreams ran far ahead of the chaos of revolutionary Russia, where Civil War and social upheaval posed a significant impediment to the development of the Soviet Union’s productive forces. Our own era of bicameral stagnation, social unrest, and organized labor similarly threaten the reactionary acceleration envisioned by Silicon Valley futurists, who are developing technology to eliminate rebellion through expansion of the carceral state, scientific breakthroughs to protect the wealthiest from irreversible environmental depletion, and a new relationship between life and death mediated by the dead labor of capitalism.

Organs, blood, or stem cells may soon be freely traded like an Uber for Sein-zum-Tode (although, with scant evidence that life extension is anything other than pseudoscience, it’s more likely to be a Theranos for Thanatos). For the middle class, extra years of life will be purchasable in mortgage-like installments. Life extension will be distributed just like the resiliency plans of major population areas under the menace of natural disasters amplified by global warming. The wealthiest areas will fortify structures, raise sea-walls, and afford for evacuations, while places like Haiti and Bangladesh are doomed to drown. Dying will increasingly be viewed as a manageable epidemic, like AIDS, violent crime, or homelessness.

Mars is even more open to the whims of venture capitalists who talk about it as if it’s a cold red stress-ball for the worst mistakes of humanity. The most commonly discussed technique for making the planet habitable involves exporting global warming to Mars by building robotic factories that produce nothing but greenhouse gases, thus melting the ice caps and making the atmosphere more like that of Earth. Elon Musk had one other idea: nuking it.

If all of Silicon Valley were revealed to be drinking plasma instead of pinot, so what? Historically, it has not only been the elite that drink blood. Medieval historian Richard Sugg recently told Smithsonian Magazine that villagers would gather around the recently executed with bowls to drink their blood fresh, or congeal it into a pudding for later. “The executioner was seen as a big healer,” Sugg said. The 2016 election was such a ritual, meant to unite the people and reify the power of the Sovereign. A Clintonian decapitation of Trumpism would have reassured America that “Trump is not who we are,” even as Obama’s immigrant detention camps remain full past capacity and Kissingerian quagmires continue to burn across the globe. Instead, it is Clinton, utterly exposed in all her hypocrisy, who will face the new regime’s pillory alongside the entirety of the Muslim and undocumented population.

But it wasn’t Trump’s “they all must go” eliminationism that lured Thiel, nor the unlikely Supreme Court nod. According to colleagues interviewed by Bloomberg, it was his Silicon Valley disruptor instincts–speculating that Trump will return the favor for Thiel’s endorsement by helping Palantir with a government contract and giving SpaceX a leg-up against Boeing. With control over big data, the economics of life and death, and his own sandbox planet to build as he sees fit, Thiel is positioning himself beyond critique or recall from the masses.

Nonetheless, like the rest of his class, Thiel will always serve a higher power. For Marx, it is not the capitalists who are vampires, but “the thing they represent,” the non-human force, a “dead labor” which “lives only by sucking living labor, and lives the more, the more labor it sucks.” Painting Thiel as a vampire may be comforting, because then it would only take some sunlight and a pointy piece of wood to take him down. Instead, consider what Thiel really fears: us, and our historical tendency to commit deicide.
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby American Dream » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:02 pm



You can lead a man to a drink
But you can't make him take a sip
You can lead a man to a link
But that don't mean he gonn' click
What's this? Y'all ain't really on no deep shit
I peeped it, scared of a motherfuckin' secret
Society and only bein' with people you agree with
You scared of a chalice scared of death
Only thing worse is your silence
Illuminatis enlightened, the OWL see in the darkness
Masonic roots still survive from the book of dearly departed
Egyptologist and scholars
Symbologists at the college
Will all acknowledge that ancient Kemet is where it started
Way farther back than the knights
Or the Rite of the Scottish
You need to wake up, no new Bugatti
My enemy tryna stop me but I don't stand a chance
If I can't identify 'em properly
Illuminati as we know it started in Bavaria
Years before it landed on the shores of America
The mission: abolishment of government and religion
They were enemys of the state
And they was hated by the Christians
They was Poets, they was Scholars
Early Illuminati was sorta like the students
In Victor Hugo's Les Miserables
The modern day politicians would diss 'em
Turning them into martyrs
This in turn inspired the founding fathers
The vast majority Masons who were the subject of the Illuminati
Found this fascination the order was insipiration
And ain't no disrespect to the masons
But you try to keep secrets then it leads to speculation
Only those in league with Satan need to hide infomation
That's how you catch a ride to your final destination
Where the proof, show 'em proof put it all on the table
When the facts are intact ain't no need for a fable
Good versus evil is primitive
Real life's more complex, what's your context?
They put the symbols on the dollar bill, the monument, the obelisk
They honouring Columbia the children of the colonists
You can trace it back to the root trace it back again
It's really just another case of stealin' from the African
Racism and vanity justify the sale of flesh
You property like cattle or produce but are you still as fresh?
Population control is real, you know the deal
But still perpetuate the cycle of violence
We known to hold the steel
No, I don't need no fuckin' chorus
Used to read so many books
Thought I was a hoarder down at Borders
Like Behold the Pale Horse or The New World Order
But you really don't know what you reading
If you really don't know the author
A lot of Satan worship is just government propaganda
Unsubstantiated lies with no proof a bunch of slander
Of course there are forces against you and that's a fact
Don't get caught in the distraction, it's bigger than any rapper
The truly oppressed ain't got the luxury of inventing a monster
The devil incarnate is much realer than the devil in concert
What they doing so sinister
Worse than any blood sacrifice you can imagine
Iller than any cinema
The Federal Reserve, the World Bank and the IMF
Helping the poor get poorer you in debt until your dying breath
Food, vaccines, humanitarian aid
They want control of the region, they really tryna get paid
Obey thy consumer make a product out of man
Where's the conspiracy? It's always been the plan
Y'all niggas scared of one world currency
But still paying your taxes
It ain't the Illuminati that worry me
Lack of spiritual energy, suicidal tendencies
Unwitting soldiers in the armies of the enemy
I'm leaking information so follow me down the wormhole
Same reason that they called Bradley Manning a turncoat
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby American Dream » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:02 pm

Liz Crokin: The ‘Me Too’ Movement Was Designed To Distract From Hollywood’s Rampant Cannibalistic Satanic Pedophilia

By Kyle Mantyla | February 13, 2018 10:31 am

Last night, right-wing “journalist” and crackpot conspiracy theorist Liz Crokin appeared once again on “The Richie Allen Show,” where she asserted that the anti-sexual harassment “Time’s Up” and “Me Too” movements were created to distract from the cannibalistic satanic pedophilia that is rampant in Hollywood.

“Let’s look at the whole ‘Me Too” movement and let’s look at the ‘Time’s Up’ movement,” she said. “Who was kind of driving that campaign? It was CAA [Creative Artists Agency]. I’m sure you are familiar with CAA, that is the biggest talent agency in Hollywood, powerful, run by Illuminati scum.”

“You have CAA, this horrific, evil company that was driving this campaign,” Crokin continued. “They are actually trying to distract from the bigger picture and the bigger picture is that these elites are involved in raping little kids, eating babies, drinking blood, sacrificing and that kind of stuff. So they are using the ‘Time’s Up’ and the ‘Me Too’ movement as a distraction.”

“Don’t tell me that all of a sudden CAA cares about sexual assault,” she added. “My ass. They are just trying to distract from what’s deeper down the rabbit hole and what’s deeper down the rabbit hole is what they do to children, it’s the spirit cooking, it’s the sacrificing, it’s these sick, crazy, twisted rituals they do, it’s the witchcraft, it’s the occult, and that’s what they’re trying to distract from.”
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby American Dream » Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:33 am

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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby dada » Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:43 pm

Can the illuminati be overthrown by organizing against it? (draining the illuminati's power, so we can say to David Bowie 'you have no power over me,' and his Escher-castle breaks apart) Can it be overthrown by demystifying it? (Alice says 'you're nothing but a pack of cards.') Can it be overthrown by using its ring of power against it?

""the painful experience of frustration is something that needs to be sustained so that its meaning can be displayed and understood" ... "frustration may have to be seen as the crucial motivating force that can drive the dialogue deeper into unknown territory and thus toward creative insight"... frustration is the potential that will drive us deeper into unknown territory if only we would be willing to take it not as something to get rid of but as something that is trying to tell us something."

"This makes me think of a conversation I once had with David Bohm during [a] dialogue that took place in Denmark... we first had a seminar in Copenhagen and afterwards we went to some holiday camp on the coast. The dialogue lasted several days. The inevitable frustration was steadily building up and, towards the end, reaching boiling point. The tension got so high that people started making suggestions like "let's hold hands", or "let's dance" or "let's sing" or other suggestions of that nature. Somebody even got up and wanted to play the piano. I was also getting somewhat upset because David had introduced the dialogue with his theories about proprioception [dispassionate observation of internal resistances] and suspension [of preconceived notions] but nobody seemed to be doing it. However, David himself didn't seem to mind the chaos that was developing. On the contrary, he looked very pleased and did nothing (or very little) in the sense of intervention to reduce the tension. This puzzled me, so during the coffee break I went up to him and asked him if this is the sort of dialogue he had in mind. To my surprise he said, "Yes, it's going very well". He explained to me that this place (the remote holiday camp) was ideal because nobody could walk out or stay away. Also the total number of people who were present was ideal; not too few for people to start adapting to each other and not too many to break up in sub-groups. The presence of so many different people guarantees that nobody can get his way. Whatever "solution" is being suggested by anybody (to reduce the tension and frustration) is immediately rejected by the others. That means, all exits are closed. David's theory was that people will first try everything else and only when there is absolutely no other possibility, they may remember what he said about proprioception and suspension. In situations of this kind, the probability is at its highest that somebody may discover it (being the only emergency exit available). From that time onwards, I realized the significance and potential of frustration. It would be a mistake to try to reduce the frustration that builds up."

Bohmian dialogue, when done right, is subversive to power. But how far are we willing to go?

"... no organization wants to be subverted and would therefore resist the kind of dialogue we have in mind. This implies that our kind of dialogue can not be carried into organizations. People who want to carry dialogue into organizations will have to remove the subversive element. Our subversive kind of dialogue is incompatible with supporting vested interests."

"...I would like to add, though, that we as a person are also organizations and that these considerations apply to ourselves (as individuals) too. If we are honest we have to admit that the subversive character of the dialogue is also a threat to us personally. What are we to do with this? To what extent are we willing to apply our own insights?"

http://www.david-bohm.net/dialogue/frustration_subversion.html
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby American Dream » Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:44 pm

I personally am not itching to fight. The final battle does not loom large in my dreams. Sure, every day there's a battle on but I do not own an AK nor do I think that would solve my problems. I would prefer a rising tide that could some day make a general strike just sort of a looming possibility.

Some people like violence. I get the sense they like it so much they forget they are like a kid with a pea shooter looking at a battleship.

The Master's tools really aren't just going to dismantle the Master's house.
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby dada » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:56 pm

I should be clear, I fully support people organizing to directly help others. Organizing around ideas, not so much.

I think a parallel can be drawn between these two types of organization, and the distinction I'd like to make between 'free revolutionary art' and art-product of the propagandist or the escapist/entertainment varieties. Which I think aren't nearly as harmful as idea-organizations, but can make no claims to being free or revolutionary. (My brother, who is smarter than me, and knows a lot more about a lot more stuff than I do, disagrees with me about the escapist/entertainment variety of art-product. We have very lively discussions.)
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby American Dream » Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:01 pm

Isn't there a big difference between folks who want to forge a general consensus amongst those they would organize with and those who insist on an exact agreement regarding "the Truth" as revealed by whatever prophets they believe in?


dada » Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:56 pm wrote:I should be clear, I fully support people organizing to directly help others. Organizing around ideas, not so much.

I think a parallel can be drawn between these two types of organization, and the distinction I'd like to make between 'free revolutionary art' and art-product of the propagandist or the escapist/entertainment varieties. Which I think aren't nearly as harmful as idea-organizations, but can make no claims to being free or revolutionary. (My brother, who is smarter than me, and knows a lot more about a lot more stuff than I do, disagrees with me about the escapist/entertainment variety of art-product. We have very lively discussions.)
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby dada » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:47 am

Is this wanted consensus a general agreement on a plan of action, or an agreement on aims, of hammering out a mission statement?

But yes, I can see a difference. I just can't help feeling that forging a general consensus carries with it a sense of having somehow failed before we've started, of having already lost something vital. But if that's what folks want to do, I wouldn't interfere.

This is another reason why I think that small cells are better, though. Decisions are fast-tracked. More speed, dynamic sensitivity, quicker reflexive responsiveness to circumstances, greater coherence... these are extremely valuable qualities to have on the futuristic battlefield.

And not as limiting as it first appears, we can expand the concept: Small cells consisting of small cells... and small cells consisting of those small cells of small cells... this thing could get pretty big.
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby American Dream » Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:38 am

I'm quick to blame the tendencies to form unity of thought and deed on Leninism, which may or may not be completely fair. Then there are the anarchist alternatives for building a united movement: Platformism, Especifismo, etc. They each bring good things to bear but can also be awkward in practice. I think building federations is challenging but very worthwhile.
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby dada » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:16 pm

Yes, but Lenin was intoxicated with a grand vision, I'm not. Therein lies the essential distinction. At some point, holding to what's best for an idea requires sacrificing one's own humanity, setting aside the basics of compassion at its most simple, fundamental level. It's unacceptable, to me. Are we to just learn from the lessons of history, or will we take them to heart? And if not, why? Are we looking for a successful formula for serving power? How far are we willing to go?

Federation implies central authority, however loosely organized. I think this is one of those 'lumping together' things that is best avoided. The small cell structure doesn't need centralized control, 'whole systems' analyst directorship, managerial guidance, orientation by majority of cells power, a central bureau cell. This is a key difference between the authoritarian cell structure, which is a big hit with nazis, jihadis, and skunks of all stripes nowadays, and the anti-authoritarian cell structure. In my opinion.

I hesitate to make a more convincing argument here. In fact, it might be better to leave the discussion flawed and open-ended, confusing and misdirecting. I know this is just a little message board, but one never knows, the authoritarian enemy may always be watching. The internet truly isn't a place to discuss strategy.

edited to add: Awkward in practice isn't necessarily a bad thing!
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Re: How to Overthrow the Illuminati

Postby American Dream » Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:15 pm

I'm very sympathetic just frustrated with anarchist disorganization of the loosey-goose horizontalist sort.
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