What's going on?

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Re: What's going on?

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:02 pm

JackRiddler » Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:18 pm wrote:
A pretty deluxe hosting arrangement for hosting two URLs and small sites like this one in the U.S. sets me back like $150 a year. ... It's very minor to your average Westerner, might be the price of a dinner date. For Jeff I am sure it is not at all the case that someone else paying for these tiny "expenses" would be any kind of incentive to maintain the site. I believe you're definitely off in this assessment.


Yes, I'd agree, given the above sum. I thought it would have been a higher amount than that.

JackRiddler » Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:18 pm wrote:
It's pretty clear, also from my communication with him, that Jeff a) wants to keep his URL and b) doesn't want the asspain of managing this board. But he doesn't mind our playing in it at his minor expense.

Judging by his daily FB posts, he would get a lot of heartburn from being involved here. And he does keep himself busy with what seems like more worthwhile shit. If he had taken a role in moderation here, it's pretty certain he would have clamped down on the flooding (and also much of the poison-pill alt-right-type stuff). In fact, we can see that without knowing any of the above. His recent noncommital "leave me alone" post is being radically misinterpreted by the opportunistic, reality-twisting bullshit of AD, SLAD and what shall I call them, Pearjerk? The Jerk Pair? The only substantive message in it was that the flooding should stop.



Bold added. SLAD seems to have doubled down in their egregious SPAM campaign, repeatedly trotting out Jeff's last post as if it justifies her maniacal output. She, along with spook-y AD and JerkyTreed are simply carrying out the mandate of their pushover mod, 82. "All is permitted".

JackRiddler » Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:18 pm wrote:
I expect that $1 per new thread wouldn't make a fuck of a difference. It's half a lottery ticket. It should jump to $199 after the 10th post in a year. Then we'd see if there were hidden money powers at work behind the Flood and Shit In It crew. (Obviously these ruminations are a fantasy.)


It may be worth initiating a GoFundMe campaign to buy out Jeff and re-calibrate forum guidelines to weed out bad actors, particularly those that operate within perceived loopholes.
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Re: What's going on?

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Re: What's going on?

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:15 am

It's time for this board to get the one moderator or the other, and settle these questions. It's a fucking joke that Wells pays the little bit of rent so that we have the equivalent of a repeater station (with maybe 10 readers?) for whatever the day's prime disinfo is on MSNBC or Google News. Either the decisions are reinstated and the flood ends or the rest of us can go away. Which is it going to be?
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Re: What's going on?

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:19 am

no problem your friend and advocate Mac's got that disfo handled by posting a rabid Islamaphobic to show us the one true way

you got your title change what more do you want? How much more power here do you need? Ask and you shall receive


11 year old thread title change - an emergency

vicious personal attacks - just fine
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Re: What's going on?

Postby RocketMan » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:29 am

I call for the banning of SLaD effective immediately, for crimes against decorum, good taste and reasoned political analysis.
-I don't like hoodlums.
-That's just a word, Marlowe. We have that kind of world. Two wars gave it to us and we are going to keep it.
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Re: What's going on?

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:31 am

how about your pals Mac and alloneword referencing an islamophobic to school us?

no problem with that....right?


Jeff » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:18 pm wrote:There's no way this won't sound anodyne, but isn't the board big enough for everyone?

I won't pretend to be up to speed on all of the disagreements here, but maybe that's good. The issues are maybe irrelevant to my point, which is that you don't all need to be pals, but maybe you do need to give each other some space.

I don't want anybody banned or the board to be heavily moderated. In return, all I'd like is some basic, online courtesy. Like not flooding someone's thread, or driving discussion off topic, or making vicious personal attacks. That kind of stuff.

Jeff out.
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Re: What's going on?

Postby RocketMan » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:35 am

And PearJerk is fine to ban again for me as well. Vicious little pest.
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-That's just a word, Marlowe. We have that kind of world. Two wars gave it to us and we are going to keep it.
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Re: What's going on?

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:36 am

There is no point in debating with this intentional 24/7 flood of sophistry.

Who's the moderator here?
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Re: What's going on?

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:38 am

@ Jack
you know perfectly well who is the moderator here he changed the thread title for just for you in lightning speed
and apparently Jeff came here and did not speak to your issues....says a lot

@ Rocketman
seems someone got out of the wrong side of the Mac's islamophobic bed this morning ...gotta change the subject?

vicious personal attacks and linking to a rabid islamophobic ...fun times in cleaning up this place :roll:

elfismiles » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:14 am wrote:
MacCruiskeen » 19 Oct 2019 14:26 wrote:You are a spook.


The charge or insinuation of "disinfo agent" can almost never be proven, and poisons and often ends meaningful discussion. Therefore suggesting a poster is purposefully spreading disinformation is not permitted.

Please read: guidelines for posting on the RI board
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http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... =36&t=8705


Mac's islamophobic bed
MacCruiskeen » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:50 pm wrote:
Journalists for Hire: How the CIA Buys the News

by Udo Ulfkotte Ph.D

https://www.amazon.com/Journalists-Hire ... 1944505474


It was a bestseller in German, then Ulfkotte died a very sudden death, and now the publication of that English translation has been stalled, without explanation, for nearly two years.
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Re: What's going on?

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:54 am

Semantical play is an essential tool of sophistry. This is why semantics matter:

1. I don't think and have not said SLAD is purposefully spreading disinformation. To divine purpose is to attribute motive, which is unknowable to me. This is yet another variant on the "personalization" narrative, as in the frequent claim that I am "attacking" SLAD, whom I do not know, when I am only describing the username's actual activity on the board. Many honest people have fallen for disinformation campaigns in the past. Many honest people specifically have been taken in by the #Russiagate complex and its current successor efforts. I cannot know an anonymous username's purpose.

2. Mere spreading is not the problem. The issue is flooding: relentless, by all forms, by thread proliferation and miles of uncommented copy-paste of daily bullshit lifted directly from corporate outlets that literally reach 10,000 times the readers as this forum, the output of which all here already know. It's like MSNBC and DNC have a local scold crew who will seek out any untoward statements and promptly reply with 25 screens of copy paste.

3. So I am saying SLAD has been flooding the board with a particular form of disinformation for years, specifically since the start of the #Russiagate psyop campaign.

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Re: What's going on?

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:55 am

I guess you got the go ahead then? To break the rules here, you and Mac have been given free range to not follow the rules?

but from who?

not Jeff

learn a new word today Jack?

sophistry twice in a matter of minutes :yay


you are loaded for bear this morning...sorry you are in such a mood before noon even, I am bouncing off my chair with all your foot stomping
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Re: What's going on?

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:15 pm

You should be more careful about constantly invoking a meaningless piece of "leave me alone" boilerplate from the same Jeff Wells who every day spends substantial time on other outlets angrily trashing exactly the same disinformation you flood this board with. I don't think you'd be too happy if you actually get him interested in this board again and examining the crap you do here.
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Re: What's going on?

Postby kelley » Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:33 pm

i did a fair amount of reading this summer on aesthetics

or perhaps the history of such and any contemporary remnants sluicing around the gutters of various precincts etc etc etc

'politics' figured into this reading somewhat

but mostly the focus was on the beautiful, the ugly, and how taste shapes judgement and /or perception

anyhow

i admire the above description of the flooding in question as 'tasteless'

this was a tasteful comment

it appears to be somewhat objective

and in addition it made me chuckle

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: What's going on?

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:49 pm

some one wants this to be overlooked so he attacks me


linking to an Islamaphobic “fecal Jihad” Nazis

alloneword » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:13 pm wrote:
MacCruiskeen » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:50 pm wrote:
Journalists for Hire: How the CIA Buys the News

by Udo Ulfkotte Ph.D

https://www.amazon.com/Journalists-Hire ... 1944505474


It was a bestseller in German, then Ulfkotte died a very sudden death, and now the publication of that English translation has been stalled, without explanation, for nearly two years.


alloneword » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:13 pm wrote:
MacCruiskeen » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:50 pm wrote:
Journalists for Hire: How the CIA Buys the News

by Udo Ulfkotte Ph.D

https://www.amazon.com/Journalists-Hire ... 1944505474


It was a bestseller in German, then Ulfkotte died a very sudden death, and now the publication of that English translation has been stalled, without explanation, for nearly two years.


That reminded me, Mac... I was going to post this elsewhere, but now you mention it:



English transcript

..When I was sent to the Iran-Iraq war for the first time, the first time was from 1980 to July 1986, I was sent to this war to report for FAZ. The Iraqis were then ‘the good guys’.

I was bit afraid. I didn’t have any experience as a war reporter. Then I arrived in Baghdad. I was fairly quickly sent along in a bus by the Iraqi army, the bus was full of loud, experienced war reporters, from such prestigious media as the BBC, several foreign TV-stations and newspapers, and me, poor newbie, who was sent to the front for the first time without any kind of preparation. The first thing I saw was that they all carried along cans of petrol. And I at once got bad consciousness, because I thought: «oops, if the bus gets stuck far from a petrol station, then everyone chips in with a bit of diesel’. I decided to in the future also carry a can before I went anywhere, because it obviously was part of it.

We drove for hours through the desert, towards the Iraqi border. Approx. 20-30 kilometers from the border, there really was nothing. First of all no war. There were armored vehicles and tanks, burned-out long ago. The journalist left the bus, splashed the contents of the cans on the vehicles. We had Iraqi soldiers with us as an escort, with machine guns, in uniform. You have to imagine: tanks in a desert, burned out long ago, now put on fire. Clouds of smoke. And there the journalists assemble their cameras.

It was my first experience with media, truth in reporting.

While I was wondering what the hell I was going to report for my newspaper, they all lined up and started: Behind them were flames and plumes of smoke, and all the time the Iraqis were running in front of camera with their machine guns, casually, but with war in their gaze. And the reporters were ducking all the time while talking.

So I gathered courage and asked one of the reporters: ‘I understand one thing, they are great pictures, but why are they ducking all the time? ‘

‘Quite simply because there are machine guns on the audio track, and it looks very good at home.’

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Re: What's going on?

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:53 pm

this is the guy Mac and alloneword are linking to and why all of a sudden this morning I am the target.....got to get off of this subject

seemslikeadream » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:41 pm wrote:so odd Ulfkotte is a hard-right Islamophobe, if he’s not a Nazi himself

nice guy you two are linking to :thumbsup

you guys crack me up

save that English transcript I won't be reading it

After his departure from FAZ in 2003, Ulfkotte became known for his conspiracy theories, for instance claiming on his Kopp Verlag blog that Barack Obama ordered the burning of bibles,[9] that African sportsmen would "slaughter whites" if allowed into Germany,[10] or that Muslims were waging "fecal jihad" against Europe.[11]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udo_Ulfkotte


JULY 30, 2007
Who Is Udo Ulfkotte?
Ulfkotte Spreading fear and hate can be an excellent business model today; witness the success of the Canadian journalist Mark Steyn, who has made $millions urging persecution of Muslims in North America and ridiculing Europe for becoming an Islamic stronghold (Eurabia). Likewise there are a number of "experts" in Germany who make a nice living warning citizens of a Muslim takeover of Europe. One of the most absurd has to be the journalist, would-be politician and "security expert" Udo Ulfkotte. Ulfkotte is aligned with the hate-blog Politically Incorrect, but is much more ambitious than your average blogger. Ulfkotte has started his own association - Pax Europa - which is dedicated to stopping the Islamicization of Europe. Recently Ulfkotte has announced that he wants to start a new political party in Germany - possibly to be called the Christlich-Ökologische Partei - which would emphasize "Christian" values over Islamic ones and reverse what he sees as "special rights" granted to the Muslim minority in Germany.

None of this is especially noteworthy; there are other "Islam-experts" such as Hans Peter Raddatz who regularly appear on television talk shows but who are not really taken seriously. What is different about Ulfkotte is his willingness to use his wealth to take legal actions against his critics. Omar at TooMuchCookies Network discusses recent actions taken by Ulfkotte and his attorneys against Jochen Hoff, a German blogger, for writing a critical blog post. Then Ulfkotte's sent a threatening letter to our blogger friend and colleague Big Berta simply for linking to that post in Watchblog Islamophobie.

Ulfkotte's legal bullying is really true to form for right-wing ideologues. The right-wing mindset has always been hostile to the idea of the free press. These people cannot win arguments in the marketplace of ideas, so they try to get satisfaction in the courts. I hope there is a Tsunami of criticism in the German blogosphere of Ulfkotte and his discredited ideas. The German press should no longer provide a forum to someone like Ulfkotte who obviously hates the principle of free speech.
http://www.islamophobiawatch.co.uk/who-is-udo-ulfkotte/


Udo Ulfkotte and Fecal Jihad: Asymmetric Warfare or Crazy Conspiracy Theory?
LOONWATCH
5 JULY 2011


Russell Blackford recently wrote a piece on Islamophobia that was reproduced by Richard Dawkins, in which he said,

“attacks on Islam..made opportunistically..cannot be dismissed out of hand as worthless.”

We responded on Twitter by saying that most attacks can be dismissed as worthless. Exhibit A: Conspiracy Theories.

Now here is a perfect example, from one Dr. Udo Ulfkotte, who thinks the recent E.coli outbreak in Germany is linked to Muslim immigrants’ importation of “fecal jihad.” After this, I don’t know who could compete for “the craziest conspiracy theory of the year award.” (hat tip: Sphinx and Jake)

Ulfkotte: Turkish women’s poor hygiene to blame for E.coli/EHEC outbreak
The writer and “Islam expert” Dr. Udo Ulfkotte has made a nice career for himself in Germany by spreading hate and fear against Muslims. In a recent interview he fantasized about all the “living space” (Lebensraum) ethnic Germans could have if only they could conduct forced deportation of all the Turkish and Arab people living in Germany. No matter that nearly all of Dr. Ulfkotte’s hateful diatribes are based on lies: he is a much sought-after guest for TV talk shows and discussion panels.

But even Dr. Ulfkotte may have outdone himself with his mostrecent piece on the right-wing Truther site of Kopp Verlag(with thanks to Politblogger). Germany is facing a health crisis due to vegetables tainted with E.coli. Naturally, Udo Ulfkotte seizes the opportunity for yet another attack on immigrants from Turkey:

Im »Erdbeerland« in Pottenstein und auf mindestens zehn weiteren Erdbeerplantagen erfand man den Hosenzwang, weil Türkinnen, die dort saisonal gearbeitet hatten, bei der Arbeit auf die Erdbeeren uriniert und zwischen den Pflanzen auch noch andere »größere Geschäfte« verrichtet hatten. … Bestimmte Migranten haben eben völlig andere Vorstellungen von Hygiene und der Einhaltung von Hygiene-Richtlinien als wir Europäer.

(In the “strawberry region” in Pottenstein (Austria) and on at least ten other strawberry farms workers are required to wear pants because Turkish women who were working there seasonally were urinating on the strawberries and even defecating among the plants….Certain migrants have a completely different concepts of hygiene than we Europeans.)

Dr. Ulfkotte goes on to describe a “fecal Jihad” being waged by Muslims against Europeans.

Thus far, there is zero evidence that the E.coli outbreak has any connection with strawberries, much less strawberries from Austria. Authorities believe rather that cucumbers from Spain may be to blame. But don’t look for a retraction or an apology from Dr. Udo Ulfkotte. He has never once retracted any of the numerous lies he’s published at Kopp Verlag or elsewhere.

Again, Ulfkotte is free to publish whatever he wishes, even if it’s mostly lies. What concerns me is that he is viewed by the German media as an “expert” and frequently appears on German television. They are lending to this fraud credibility he in no way deserves
http://www.islamophobiatoday.com/2011/0 ... cy-theory/


Opinion Islam
Villains of the pax
Khaled Diab
A controversial anti-Islam demonstration in Brussels, slated for September 11, has descended from tragedy to farce.
Tue 11 Sep 2007 04.00 EDT

.........
The anniversary of the September 11 2001 attacks is not the easiest time of year to be a western Muslim - and this year will be no exception. Although I can understand the fear violent Islamism elicits in many ordinary Europeans, I find it hard to accept how the threat is exaggerated and manipulated by certain interest groups for their own ends, stigmatising innocent, law-abiding Muslims in the process.

The anniversary of this sad day is a golden opportunity for certain groups to dust off their tired rhetoric and attack the "fifth columnists" in their midst - and a group of them have been planning a demonstration in Brussels against what they call the "Islamisation of Europe".


The demo was the brainchild of Udo Ulfkotte, a German ex-journalist turned self-proclaimed cultural crusader for "Christian values" and wannabe politician who has plans to set up an anti-Islam party in Germany. Ulfkotte teamed up with Danish, British and Belgian far-right activists. He linked his own Pax Europa with the Danish-British Stop Islamisation of Europe (SIOE) alliance and approached the far-right Belgian party Vlaams Belang (VB) for their assistance.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... nsofthepax


American Dream » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:11 pm wrote:Surprise, surprise:


https://www.dialoginternational.com/dia ... ndist.html

JANUARY 31, 2015

Fake Journalist Udo Ulfkotte Makes A Comeback As Putin Propagandist

I've written about the "journalist" Udo Ulfkotte over the years and was pleased that he seemed to have faded from view, disappearing into the pages of the 9/11 Truther Site of Kopp Verlag. Ulfkotte distinguished himself as a racist and anti-Islam hatemonger, demanding that all Muslims be deported from Germany in order to create more Lebensraum for ethnic Germans. For years he has been publishing articles and books that distort the truth, or are outright lies. A few examples: Ulfkotte claimed that Muslims were waging a "fecal Jihad" against Germans"because Turkish women were allegedly defecating in fields of strawberries that were exported to Germany. He warned Germans to stay away from the 2010 World Cup in South Africa, since black African "savages" were planning to rape and murder European visitors. Of course, President Obama is one those black African savages - or at least a 'half-breed" - whom he hates. He lied that Obama was persecuting Christians in the United States, and had given orders to burn Bibles. I could go on and on. Actually, I cannot identify any examples where the "journalist" Udo Ulfkotte reported truthfully about anything.

Ulfkotte was pretty much ignored by legitimate news outlets. Or he was derisively dismissed as a conspiracy nut. But two events happened last year that revitalized his career in fake journalism: the unfolding events in the Ukraine and the rise of the "Pegida movement". The Ukraine crisis allowed Ulkotte to latch onto the Russian propaganda outlets and accuse the Western media of being controlled by the CIA. Also the Lügenpresse! battle-cry of the Pegida protesters has given Ulfkotte a convenient cover to go after the journalists who scorned or ignored him in the past. Now he can lie about how the mainstream press is in the pocket of the CIA:

Dr. Ulfkotte says the corruption of journalists and major news outlets by the CIA is routine, accepted, and widespread in the western media, and that journalists who do not comply either cannot get jobs at any news organization, or find their careers cut short.


Ulkotte frequently interviewed by the Putin-controlled Russian media outlets, such as Russia Insider: Our Exclusive Interview with German Editor Turned CIA Whistleblower. He is also a favorite guest on Putin's global propaganda channel RT:


https://youtu.be/yp-Wh77wt1o

UPDATE: The fearless truth-teller Dr. Ulfkotte recently demonstrated his bravery by physically assaulting a teenage protester at an anti-immigrant rally in Offenbach.
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