America’s Own Color Revolution

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Re: America’s Own Color Revolution

Postby Marionumber1 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:20 pm

It's not unreasonable to suspect that self-proclaimed BLM or Antifa protesters might be committing violence. But the key phrase here, which at least some of the articles posted in this thread seem to gloss over in pursuit of a political agenda, is "self-proclaimed". A name doesn't prove anything, and calling oneself anti-fascist doesn't automatically make one anti-fascist anymore than calling oneself a National Socialists makes one a socialist. We should also remember that Gladio operations in Europe saw plenty of terrorist acts blamed on the far left when the real operatives were often native or imported fascists. If "Antifa" or "BLM" appears to be responsible for violent acts here in the US, we should be wary of the same script being followed.

(That said, these articles don't seem to have provided much evidence that anything more violent than protesting is actually being done by these groups. Not to say there isn't any evidence of such, but the articles posted so far didn't make a very compelling case. One of the more solid things they mentioned was the possible link between the murderer of Heather Heyer and the neo-Nazis used in the CIA coup in Ukraine, which again points to the far right being the main operatives in state-sponsored violence, consistent with how Gladio worked.)

What really troubles me more is the relatively awful political analysis being done in these articles. The constant singling out of George Soros as the sole bogeyman, and the idea that a billionaire like him is some kind of radical leftist, is pretty laughable but I expect nothing less from the Washington Times. Ditto for the Engdahl's claim that recent Democrats like AOC and Ilhan Omar are subversive radical leftists — they are actually quite flawed, yet still manage to be better than almost everyone in Congress — or are somehow representative of the Democratic Party overall — when it in fact remains corporate-controlled and hostile to anyone even vaguely leftist.

Even more worrying is this trope, however: For the last 4 years, the "alternative" media has been filled with assertions that Trump is the victim of attempted deep state plots against him. There is so little self-awareness on the part of these people who rail against Russiagate — the notion that Trump is some kind of novel existential threat to democracy whom the intelligence services are heroically working to oust — that their own version of the truth — the notion that Trump is some kind of novel existential threat to the corporate/imperialist state whom the intelligence services are disgracefully working to oust — is merely the other side of the same coin.

The fact that both purported sides (the "anti"-Trump "liberal" media and the "alternative" press) of the issue reinforce the idea of a fundamental divide between Trump and the deep state should be a major red flag. In reality, Trump is just another deep state puppet in a long line, and appearances to the contrary are part of a professional wrestling-esque propaganda operation. He was installed against the will of the electorate through the same corrupt e-voting systems that gave us Bush in 2000 and 2004, Scott Walker in 2012, Clinton the Dem nominee in 2016, etc. On domestic policy, he has governed like a standard Republican president, working to slash regulations on big business and cut social programs. He posed as a critic of trade deals like the TPP while having no real opposition to the way that they allow corporate domination over national sovereignty (a good indication of what a "New World Order" actually is). On foreign policy, he posed as anti-war, yet bombed Syria right at the same time Hillary Clinton was advocating it in response to a likely false flag blamed on Assad (which even Obama didn't do in response to the prior such false flag in 2013), overtly armed anti-Russia forces in Ukraine (which even Obama didn't do), has continued the proxy war in Yemen, assassinated a top military official in Iran earlier this year (!), and acts like he would withdraw from Afghanistan but is hamstrung by Congress despite being the commander in chief.

Why, given a record like this, would the deep state want to remove Trump? And if the deep state now wants him removed, then who exactly was rigging this deep state-controlled voting infrastructure to install him in the first place? The most rational answer is that they don't want to remove Trump at all.

Larry Chin's article briefly makes the case that this is because Trump's administration has been subverted from within by the deep state, but that notion is also ludicrous:

In addition to being assaulted from outside (Purple Revolution, Russia/hack, Robert Mueller, impeachment threats, etc.), he is being sabotaged and subverted from inside the White House, and from inside his innermost circle, by the likes of National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, Dina Habib Powell and the West Wing globalists including Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Gary Cohn, and Steve Mnuchin.

McMaster has purged the administration of Trump loyalists and populists, and replaced with Bush/Obama/Clinton/Deep State operatives, and runs foreign policy with vice president Mike Pence.

Pence routinely issues statements contradictory to Trump’s own ideas. He has not been the focus of any mainstream media criticism. This Bush loyalist is in perfect position to become president in the event of Trump’s removal (by whatever means that occurs).

The neocon generals—Mattis, McMaster, Kelly—“oversee” and control Trump on all matters, treating him like a child. Kelly controls all information to and from Trump.


Putting aside the fairly laughable claim that part of the conspiracy to subvert Trump from within includes his own daughter, at what point can Trump be said to have responsibility for what the rest of his administration is doing? His "innermost circle" is made up of people he appointed. Is he just too much of an idiot to know what's going on, and they're using him as the public face while they implement their own agenda? Probably yes, at least in part, but that is no different from Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush, both of whom were obviously "deep state" presidents. Whatever Reagan, Dubya, or Trump claim to stand on the campaign trail for hardly matters. Hell, Dubya campaigned as a non-interventionist, and look how that turned out. What their administration actually does matters. So if Trump is being used as a puppet while the real decision-makers accomplish their agenda, well, there's absolutely nothing unprecedented about that. The deep state isn't scared of a president who has nothing more than rhetoric against them; to the contrary, they encourage such things because it is a very useful tool to mask what's actually going on.

In an era where more people are starting to wake up to the endemic corruption in our political system, we are likely going to see more puppets like Trump falsely sold as outsiders. And in order to legitimize that image, we will likely have the establishment waging an illusory war on those puppets, pretending that they are some unparalleled threat who needs to be removed from office. Then this fake war will fizzle out (like Russiagate did), and the establishment will have gotten the puppet to faithfully enact its agenda in the meantime but pretend to be disappointed with the outcome. It is going to keep going on like this as long as enough people fail to realize that the puppet and the establishment on the same team.
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Re: America’s Own Color Revolution

Postby Elvis » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:32 pm

This seems like a good point to insert a link this article I just read...could go in many threads:

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/16 ... alized-it/

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Re: America’s Own Color Revolution

Postby DrEvil » Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:38 pm

conniption » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:51 am wrote:
Joe Hillshoist » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:42 pm wrote:...Mate people say stuff online they would never say to people's faces....


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DrEvil wrote:Of course. It couldn't possibly be that you just don't like fascists. You clearly have an agenda. How much is Soros paying you?


Maybe computers should come with a boxing glove on a spring that punches you whenever you say something that would get you punched in real life (I would probably have permanent brain damage by now if that was the case, but hey, win some, lose some).

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If I were moderator...I'd have to give you guys some time off for threatening a fellow board member with not-so subtle violent acts. Not to mention hijacking threads...

For shame!

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Coming Soon to a U.S. Neighborhood Near You? Regime-Change Foot Soldiers Parading as Social Justice Warriors
Robert Bridge
September 22, 2020


Is the ‘Trump regime’ about to get a taste of the color revolution tactics that America has employed in the past against “illiberal” foreign governments that refused to toe the neoliberal globalist line? It’s looking highly likely.

Despite great efforts by the mainstream media to play it down, an increasing number of Americans are being subjected to a level of aggression, intimidation and street violence that the authorities seem unable or unwilling to control. This is no accident.

Since 2016, a series of actions by the political left indicate that the chaos unfolding on the streets of America is no grassroots movement on behalf of ‘social justice,’ but rather a carefully coordinated plan to oust Trump in the event the Democrats fail to get Biden into office. Indeed, for the orchestrators of this coup, what happens on Nov. 4 is of far more relevance that what happens on Election Day.

The first sign of trouble came in 2016, when none other than George Soros began spending a king’s ransom in local judicial elections. As the Daily Signal noted, “[r]adical social justice activists will serve as the top prosecutors for three major Washington, D.C., suburbs—including the two wealthiest counties in the U.S.—after George Soros’ political action committee poured $2.1 million into ordinarily sleepy local races.”

Only a crazed conspiracy theorist, like Newt Gingrich, apparently, would see any connection between Soros supporting radical prosecutors, and his other pet project of supporting ‘social justice’ groups, like Black Lives Matter and Antifa, who occasionally find themselves in need of a sympathetic justice system. And if local courts somehow fail to catch and release the hoodlums, Hollywood has shown a disturbing willingness to write out the bail checks. The only thing the looters and ‘peaceful protesters’ need now is a government mandate that requires masks be worn in public to protect their identities, and for property owners to understand they will be prosecuted for demonstrating their 2nd Amendment rights.

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In celebration of whatever the fuck maga night is, I am committed to donating $100,000 to the bail outs of protestors across the country.


Now that the radicals have their institutional support structure all in place, a strange yet not wholly unexpected thing is happening. Although police brutality has been occurring in the United States long Trump became president, and it effects both whites and blacks, the ‘peaceful protesters’ are venting their outrage primarily against Republicans, which the left has come to associate with ‘white supremacists’ and ‘fascism.’ This demonization of the right, which the mainstream media is happy to accentuate so long Trump is at the helm, gives left-wing groups the bare amount of legitimacy they need to carry out their activities.

By way of example, consider the way members of Black Lives Matter aggressively taunted Republicans as they attempted to leave the Republican National Convention where Trump accepted the nomination for the presidential election. As Senator Rand Paul and his wife Michele walked down the sidewalk, a frenzied mob could be heard shouting, “say her name!” in reference to Breonna Taylor, a 26-year-old Black woman who was shot to death by police at her home in March during a botched raid. Apparently it did not matter to the rabble, or they never knew, that Paul was responsible for filing legislation to prohibit police officers from using no-knock warrants like the one that led to the fatal shooting of Ms. Taylor.

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10:39 PM · Aug 27, 2020


Another strange coincidence for the coincidence theorists is that a number of Democrats have been calling for exactly the sort of harassment against Trump supporters that is now unfolding across the nation. In June, Maxine Waters, for example, incited her followers to “create a crowd, and you push back on them.” More recently, Kamala Harris, the Democratic vice president nominee, said in an interview with Stephen Colbert, “They [the protesters] are not going to stop before Election Day in November, and they’re not going to stop after Election Day…They’re not going to let up, and they should not, and we should not.”

Reading such comments almost forces one to conclude that the Democrats, at least the radical progressive wing of the Democratic Party, have no illusions about Biden’s real chances for beating Trump. After all, if victory looked certain there would be no need for the threats. In other words, what the Democrats are most concerned about are not the actual results of the election, which have a very high chance of being unfavorable, but rather the reaction to the results. On this point, appearances are everything. Thus the mainstream media, in cahoots with left-leaning polling agencies and colleges, have conditioned Liberals – in the very same way they did in 2016 with their hugely inaccurate polls – to believe that Biden simply cannot lose. It doesn’t require a degree in the theory of revolutions to predict how those BLM/Antifa protesters, many of whom were too young to vote in 2016, are going to react to the news of four more years of a ‘white supremacist in chief.’ Not calmly and rationally, that’s for sure. After all, we are talking about an entire generation that has graduated from Woke U. with a Marxist major in ‘American Imperialism’ and a minor in ‘Mass Destruction’.

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Did you know:

According to a Princeton study, 91% of riots in America since the end of May were linked to BLM inc.

That means 9 out of 10 riots were propped up by the Democrat Party's fundraising system, ActBlue

When will Joe Biden disavow Domestic Terrorism from his base?
9:37 AM · Sep 18, 2020


Here is where the stage has been rigged for a full-blown ‘color revolution’ erupting on or shortly after November 3rd. If anyone needs more proof, consider Hillary Clinton’s telling comment that “Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances” because he will win if “we don’t give an inch.” In other words, the election has nothing to do with counting votes, or even mail-in ballots, but rather which side, according to the rationale of Hillary Clinton, has the greater staying power.

As witnessed in faraway places where the U.S. State Department prepared the groundwork for regime change operations against governments and leaders they did not like, as in Ukraine, for example, and more recently in Belarus, it will take no effort whatsoever for the puppet masters to mobilize ‘social justice groups’ like BLM and Antifa to come out in massive protest against the results of November’s contest. And since we are talking about a homegrown operation, there is no need for NGOs working secretly behind the scenes to rally the locals into action; the killing of George Floyd at the hands of a white police officer was all that was required to mobilize the media and the young radicals of the left against ‘systemic racism,’ which is just another way of saying ‘white supremacy,’ which is just another way of saying ‘Donald Trump.’

Have America’s regime-change vultures come home to roost? Unfortunately, such a grim prospect is looking more likely with each passing day as Nov. 3rd promises to be a presidential election without precedent in U.S. history. That is the day when the American Revolution may go full circle.

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/ ... -warriors/


I have no idea about your political leanings (except that you are posting on an antifa board), but you sure as hell are bending over backwards to support the pro-fascist narrative. BLM and antifa (and their degrees in Marxism and mass destruction :roll: ) are really domestic terrorists and part of a coup plot funded by a billionaire Jew, and the guy in the White House who has repeatedly refused to say if he will respect the election result and is screaming at the top of his lungs about democrats rigging the election with zero proof is the poor victim...? Jesus Christ man. How can you not see how completely and utterly fucked up that is?

This thread needs to be hijacked because you are way over in fascist enabler territory by now.

Also, no one threatened you, merely pointed out you were saying things you would never say to someone's face, and I cracked a joke about how to prevent that. If anyone here needs a slap on the wrist (no, I'm not threatening to come to your house and slap your wrist, unless you're into that sort of thing) it's you for repeatedly posting pro-fascist garbage like the above article and the OP, both of which wouldn't have been out of place in early thirties Germany.

In your own words: for shame!
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Re: America’s Own Color Revolution

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:47 am

The post by Marionumber1 is so good I'm just going to repeat it.

Marionumber1 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:20 pm wrote:It's not unreasonable to suspect that self-proclaimed BLM or Antifa protesters might be committing violence. But the key phrase here, which at least some of the articles posted in this thread seem to gloss over in pursuit of a political agenda, is "self-proclaimed". A name doesn't prove anything, and calling oneself anti-fascist doesn't automatically make one anti-fascist anymore than calling oneself a National Socialists makes one a socialist. We should also remember that Gladio operations in Europe saw plenty of terrorist acts blamed on the far left when the real operatives were often native or imported fascists. If "Antifa" or "BLM" appears to be responsible for violent acts here in the US, we should be wary of the same script being followed.

(That said, these articles don't seem to have provided much evidence that anything more violent than protesting is actually being done by these groups. Not to say there isn't any evidence of such, but the articles posted so far didn't make a very compelling case. One of the more solid things they mentioned was the possible link between the murderer of Heather Heyer and the neo-Nazis used in the CIA coup in Ukraine, which again points to the far right being the main operatives in state-sponsored violence, consistent with how Gladio worked.)

What really troubles me more is the relatively awful political analysis being done in these articles. The constant singling out of George Soros as the sole bogeyman, and the idea that a billionaire like him is some kind of radical leftist, is pretty laughable but I expect nothing less from the Washington Times. Ditto for the Engdahl's claim that recent Democrats like AOC and Ilhan Omar are subversive radical leftists — they are actually quite flawed, yet still manage to be better than almost everyone in Congress — or are somehow representative of the Democratic Party overall — when it in fact remains corporate-controlled and hostile to anyone even vaguely leftist.

Even more worrying is this trope, however: For the last 4 years, the "alternative" media has been filled with assertions that Trump is the victim of attempted deep state plots against him. There is so little self-awareness on the part of these people who rail against Russiagate — the notion that Trump is some kind of novel existential threat to democracy whom the intelligence services are heroically working to oust — that their own version of the truth — the notion that Trump is some kind of novel existential threat to the corporate/imperialist state whom the intelligence services are disgracefully working to oust — is merely the other side of the same coin.

The fact that both purported sides (the "anti"-Trump "liberal" media and the "alternative" press) of the issue reinforce the idea of a fundamental divide between Trump and the deep state should be a major red flag. In reality, Trump is just another deep state puppet in a long line, and appearances to the contrary are part of a professional wrestling-esque propaganda operation. He was installed against the will of the electorate through the same corrupt e-voting systems that gave us Bush in 2000 and 2004, Scott Walker in 2012, Clinton the Dem nominee in 2016, etc. On domestic policy, he has governed like a standard Republican president, working to slash regulations on big business and cut social programs. He posed as a critic of trade deals like the TPP while having no real opposition to the way that they allow corporate domination over national sovereignty (a good indication of what a "New World Order" actually is). On foreign policy, he posed as anti-war, yet bombed Syria right at the same time Hillary Clinton was advocating it in response to a likely false flag blamed on Assad (which even Obama didn't do in response to the prior such false flag in 2013), overtly armed anti-Russia forces in Ukraine (which even Obama didn't do), has continued the proxy war in Yemen, assassinated a top military official in Iran earlier this year (!), and acts like he would withdraw from Afghanistan but is hamstrung by Congress despite being the commander in chief.

Why, given a record like this, would the deep state want to remove Trump? And if the deep state now wants him removed, then who exactly was rigging this deep state-controlled voting infrastructure to install him in the first place? The most rational answer is that they don't want to remove Trump at all.

Larry Chin's article briefly makes the case that this is because Trump's administration has been subverted from within by the deep state, but that notion is also ludicrous:

In addition to being assaulted from outside (Purple Revolution, Russia/hack, Robert Mueller, impeachment threats, etc.), he is being sabotaged and subverted from inside the White House, and from inside his innermost circle, by the likes of National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, Dina Habib Powell and the West Wing globalists including Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Gary Cohn, and Steve Mnuchin.

McMaster has purged the administration of Trump loyalists and populists, and replaced with Bush/Obama/Clinton/Deep State operatives, and runs foreign policy with vice president Mike Pence.

Pence routinely issues statements contradictory to Trump’s own ideas. He has not been the focus of any mainstream media criticism. This Bush loyalist is in perfect position to become president in the event of Trump’s removal (by whatever means that occurs).

The neocon generals—Mattis, McMaster, Kelly—“oversee” and control Trump on all matters, treating him like a child. Kelly controls all information to and from Trump.


Putting aside the fairly laughable claim that part of the conspiracy to subvert Trump from within includes his own daughter, at what point can Trump be said to have responsibility for what the rest of his administration is doing? His "innermost circle" is made up of people he appointed. Is he just too much of an idiot to know what's going on, and they're using him as the public face while they implement their own agenda? Probably yes, at least in part, but that is no different from Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush, both of whom were obviously "deep state" presidents. Whatever Reagan, Dubya, or Trump claim to stand on the campaign trail for hardly matters. Hell, Dubya campaigned as a non-interventionist, and look how that turned out. What their administration actually does matters. So if Trump is being used as a puppet while the real decision-makers accomplish their agenda, well, there's absolutely nothing unprecedented about that. The deep state isn't scared of a president who has nothing more than rhetoric against them; to the contrary, they encourage such things because it is a very useful tool to mask what's actually going on.

In an era where more people are starting to wake up to the endemic corruption in our political system, we are likely going to see more puppets like Trump falsely sold as outsiders. And in order to legitimize that image, we will likely have the establishment waging an illusory war on those puppets, pretending that they are some unparalleled threat who needs to be removed from office. Then this fake war will fizzle out (like Russiagate did), and the establishment will have gotten the puppet to faithfully enact its agenda in the meantime but pretend to be disappointed with the outcome. It is going to keep going on like this as long as enough people fail to realize that the puppet and the establishment on the same team.


Marionumber1, a very able and thorough dismantling. It will fall on deaf ears as far as anyone who would take seriously the OP in the first place, I expect not so much because they're taken in by these odious fables and 180-degree reversals of the facts, as because they want to believe --or front-- this stuff in the first place. You can't wake one who is pretending to sleep, as the proverb goes, or who is pretending to be outraged about the non-existent violence on "the left" and the terrible mischaracterizations of openly fascist parties as fascist. It's part of the kayfabe.

The OP is abominable and I hear everyone who is saying so. On the other hand, it's not exactly new for this site. We're actually having a lot less of it lately. I think conniption reposting Engdahl, Soros fiction, and QAnon-type Trump campaign fantasy productions can be tolerated in ONE thread (even more so if the rest of you remember you don't have to engage). I will be locking any attempts to proliferate this into other threads. Also, conniption, no more fake conniptions about how badly you're being treated here. If this turns into a personal flamewar it will be my pleasure to lock the thread.
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Re: America’s Own Color Revolution

Postby Harvey » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:59 am

A good analysis Marionumber1.

As some of us have pointed out since November/December 2016,* even if Trump wasn't merely a symptom of the American Nightmare and even if he really intended to 'drain the swamp' while protecting workers and jobs, the deep state already had in place their strategy to make his presidency work for their interests, with the added benefit of being cheered on by the nominal left. Trump provided acceptable cover for deepstate to continue foundational work on Cold War 2.0 and associated spending, industrial scale deregulation, decimation of the middle class etc, with the upside of taking none of the flak. Almost exactly what occured throughout the Obama years in fact.

The real cost of Trump for them was the lasting reputational damage to brand Americaᵀᴹ while deepstate actually managed to posture as 'resistance' to itself for a while, carrying almost all of 'liberal' media with it. By focussing Democrats, centrists, liberals and some notional progressives against Trump via Russia, the whole circus was able to limp through another four years, even as it achieved many of its goals. As a bonus, the affair served to divert attention away from the Russian billionaire class, the so called 'oligarchs' whom America itself had created through Yeltsin and from whose cup the entire American (and British) political elite are happy to sup.

With Harris poised to resume Obama's role as soon as she becomes President, I'm expecting a triumphant return to form: a resurgence of terrorism in the age of Covid, more chemical attack false flags, many more 'humanitarian' wars and the end of free movement.

https://www.allsides.com/story/house-democrats-introduce-legislation-create-25th-amendment-commission

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Maryland Rep. Jamie Raskin announced new legislation on Friday to establish a permanent "Commission on Presidential Capacity" under the 25th Amendment. The 25th Amendment allows for congress to transfer power to the vice president if the president is deemed “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.”


*Many of us have been vindicated by everything which subsequently emerged from Russiagate, right up to recent 'revelations' that Democrats (Clinton et al) were planning Russiagate long before the election took place. (You don't say.)

https://www.rt.com/usa/502757-trump-clinton-russia-collusion-declassification/

The declassified notes suggest that Brennan had briefed Obama on a “plan” by then-Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton to smear Trump with allegations of ‘Russian collusion’
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Re: America’s Own Color Revolution

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:47 am

Harvey » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:59 am wrote:As a bonus, the affair served to divert attention away from the Russian billionaire class, the so called 'oligarchs' whom America itself had created through Yeltsin and from whose cup the entire American (and British) political elite are happy to sup.


Well said on all of it, but with a big YES regarding this oft-ignored point. The "Russian" influence on Trump is not the Russian state or the oligarchs around Putin, but the earlier generation produced by Yeltsin during the period of quasi-American control, who laundered their fortunes into the West (with Trump Org a relatively minor business among the hundreds of laundries) and are now an international mob, partly at home in the U.S. and supporting right-wing politics here. So literal long-time FBI informants and CIA cut-outs like Sater and Mifsud (definitely) or Deripaska and Killink (sure look like it) are presented both as members of Putin's kitchen-cabinet and as powerful influencers over Trump. The latter was accomplished via two Trump 2016 campaign managers who together lasted for a few weeks and ran the campaign into the ground, before the (never-mentioned) Mercers and Bannon took it over, turned it around, and brought it to its unexpected victory. The American oligarchs who are everywhere around the Trump victory are never mentioned, minor Russian oligarchs who had nothing to do with it are who aren't connected to Putin are magically credited with both by the #Russiagaters. How is this absurdity possible? There's one word that explains it all too well, and this too often goes ignored even among us #Russiagate skeptics: xenophobia. (Yasha Levine, as an actual Russian, is one who has covered this well.) Any Russian will do. No journalistic fact-checking or provenance is necessary to establish just who this Russian is. Any Russian, at whatever remove from Trump (or Manafort or Flynn), is sufficient to indicate an image of total evil centered always on their pro-Trump Borg mother ship commanded by their dictator Putin in the Kremlin.

To complete the picture, all we need is for one of the Deripaskas or whoever to shovel some money into the DNC and be accepted as an anti-Putin grand friend of democracy.

Okay, going to cross-post the last couple of items to the Russiagate thread and stay out of this one, barring any moderating necessities.

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Re: America’s Own Color Revolution

Postby Harvey » Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:31 pm

How is this absurdity possible? There's one word that explains it all too well, and this too often goes ignored even among us #Russiagate skeptics: xenophobia.
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Re: America’s Own Color Revolution

Postby conniption » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:56 am

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Banana Follies: The Mother of All Color Revolutions
November 06, 2020

by Pepe Escobar and cross-posted with Asia Times

A gaming exercise of the perfect, indigenous color revolution, code-named Blue, was leaked from a major think tank established in the imperial lands that first designed the color revolution concept.

Not all the information disclosed here about the gaming of Blue has been declassified. That may well elicit a harsh response from the Deep State, even as a similar scenario was gamed by an outfit called Transition Integrity Project.

Both scenarios should qualify as predictive programming – with the Deep State preparing the general public, in advance, for exactly how things will play out.

The standard color revolution playbook rules they usually start in the capital city of nation-state X, during an election cycle, with freedom fighting “rebels” enjoying full national and international media support.

Blue concerns a presidential election in the Hegemon. In the gaming exercise, the incumbent president, codenamed Buffon, was painted Red. The challenger, codenamed Corpse, was painted Blue.

Blue – the exercise – went up a notch because, compared to its predecessors, the starting point was not a mere insurgency, but a pandemic. Not any pandemic, but a really serious, bad to the bone global pandemic with an explosive infection fatality rate of less than 1%.

By a fortunate coincidence, the lethal pandemic allowed Blue operators to promote mail-in ballots as the safest, socially distant voting procedure.

That connected with a rash of polls predicting an all but inevitable Blue win in the election – even a Blue Wave.

The premise is simple: take down the economy and deflate a sitting president whose stated mission is to drive a booming economy. In tandem, convince public opinion that actually getting to the polls is a health hazard.

The Blue production committee takes no chances, publicly announcing they would contest any result that contradicts the prepackaged outcome: Blue’s final victory in a quirky, anachronistic, anti-direct democracy body called the “electoral college”.

If Red somehow wins, Blue would wait until every vote is counted and duly litigated to every jurisdiction level. Relying on massive media support and social media marketing propelled to saturation levels, Blue proclaims that “under no scenario” Red would be allowed to declare victory.

Countdown to magic voting

Election Day comes. Vote counting is running smoothly – mail-in count, election day count, up to the minute tallies – but mostly favoring Red, especially in three states always essential for capturing the presidency. Red is also leading in what is characterized as “swing states”.

But then, just as a TV network prematurely calls a supposedly assured Red state for Blue, all vote-counting stops before midnight in major urban areas in key swing states under Blue governors, with Red in the lead.

Blue operators stop counting to check whether their scenario towards a Blue victory can roll out without bringing in mail-in ballots. Their preferred mechanism is to manufacture the “will of the people” by keeping up an illusion of fairness.

Yet they can always rely, as Plan B, on urban mail-in ballots on tap, hot and cold, until Blue squeaks by in two particularly key swing states that Red had bagged in a previous election.

That’s what happens. Starting at 2 am, and later into the night, enter a batch of “magic” votes in these two key states. The sudden, vertical upward “adjustment” includes the case of a batch of 130k+ pro-Blue votes cast in a county alongside not a single pro-Red vote – a statistical miracle of Holy Ghost proportions.

Stuffing the ballot box is a typical scam applied in Banana Republic declinations of color revolution. Blue operators use the tried and tested method applied to the gold futures market, when a sudden drop of naked shorts drives down gold price, thus protecting the US dollar.

Blue operators bet the compliant mainstream media/Big Tech alliance will not question that, well, out of the blue, the vote would swing towards Blue in a 2 to 3 or 3 to 4 margin.

They bet no questions will be asked on how a 2% to 5% positive ballot trend in Red’s favor in a few states turned into a 0.5% to 1.4% trend in favor of Blue by around 4am.

And that this discrepancy happens in two swing states almost simultaneously.

And that some precincts turn more presidential votes than they have registered voters.

And that in swing states, the number of extra mysterious votes for Blue far exceeds votes cast for the Senate candidates in these states, when the record shows that down ticket totals are traditionally close.

And that turnout in one of these states would be 89.25%.

The day after Election Day there are vague explanations that one of the possible vote-dumps was just a “clerical error”, while in another disputed state there is no justification for accepting ballots with no postmark.

Blue operators relax because the mainstream media/Big Tech alliance squashes each and every complaint as “conspiracy theories”.

The Red counter-revolution

The two presidential candidates do not exactly help their own cases.

Codename Corpse, in a Freudian slip, had revealed his party had set up the most extensive and “diverse” fraud scheme ever.

Not only Corpse is about to be investigated for a shady computer-related scheme. He is a stage 2 dementia patient with a rapidly unraveling profile – kept barely functional by drugs, which can’t prevent his mind slowly shutting down.

Codename Buffoon, true to his instincts, goes pre-emptive, declaring the whole election a fraud but without offering a smoking gun. He is duly debunked by the mainstream media/Big Tech alliance for spreading “false claims”.

All this is happening as a wily, old, bitter operator not only had declared that the only admissible scenario was a Blue victory; she had already positioned herself for a top security job.

Blue also games that Red would immediately embark on a single-minded path ahead: regiment an army of lawyers demanding access to every registration roll to scrub, review and verify each and every mail-in ballot, a process of de facto forensic analysis.

Yet Blue cannot foresee how many fake ballots will be unveiled during recounts.

As Corpse is set to declare victory, Buffon eyes the long game, set to take the whole thing all the way to the Supreme Court.

The Red machine had already gamed it – as it was fully aware of how operation Blue would be played.

The Red counter-revolution does carry the potential of strategically checkmating Blue.

It is a three-pronged attack – with Red using the Judiciary Committee, the Senate and the Attorney General, all under the authority of codename Buffoon until Inauguration Day. The end game after a vicious legal battle is to overthrow Blue.

Red’s top operators have the option of setting up a Senate commission, or a Special Counsel, at the request of the Judiciary Committee, to be appointed by the Department of Justice to investigate Corpse.

In the meantime, two electoral college votes, one-month apart, are required to certify the presidential winner.

These votes will happen in the middle of one and perhaps two investigations focused on Corpse. Any state represented at the electoral college may object to approving an investigated Corpse; in this case, it’s illegal for that state to allow its electors to certify the state’s presidential results.

Corpse may even be impeached by his own party, under the 25th Amendment, due to his irreversible mental decline.

The resulting chaos would have to be resolved by the Red-leaning Supreme Court. Not exactly the outcome favored by Blue.

The House always wins

The heart of the matter is that this think tank gaming transcends both Red and Blue. It’s all about the Deep State’s end game.

There’s nothing like a massive psy ops embedded in a WWE-themed theater under the sign of Divide and Rule to pit mob vs. mob, with half of the mob rebelling against what it perceives as an illegitimate government. The 0.00001% comfortably surveys the not only metaphorical carnage from above.

Even as the Deep State, using its Blue minions, would never have allowed codename Buffoon to prevail, again, domestic Divide and Rule might be seen as the least disastrous outcome for the world at large.

A civil war context in theory distracts the Deep State from bombing more Global South latitudes into the dystopian “democracy” charade it is now enacting.

And yet a domestic Empire of Chaos gridlock may well encourage more foreign adventures as a necessary diversion to tie the room together.

And that’s the beauty of the Blue gaming exercise: the House wins, one way or another.


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Re: America’s Own Color Revolution

Postby Marionumber1 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:33 am

These claims of pro-Biden election fraud almost all seem silly, especially given how smugly they are made without any kind of real evidence. It is not suspicious that one candidate's initial lead in a states diminishes as more ballots end up being counted, especially when these ballots come from a voting method that the candidate spent months telling their supporters was unsafe. That is not to say that there's anything inconceivable or even necessarily implausible about the kinds of manipulations which are being alleged, but there has to be more evidence than "My candidate used to be leading and now they're not". Moreover, I have to wonder why this article is so fixated on ballot stuffing when our computerized voting infrastructure gives the deep state a much more centralized and covert mechanism to commit systemic election fraud. This betrays the likely bias of a source obsessed with Democratic Party "voter fraud" while ignoring the control of electronic vote tallying by a motley crew of political powerbrokers (often right-wingers), mobsters, and military+intelligence assets.

The claim about Biden gaining 138K votes with no other candidate having their totals change is something I spent a little while checking into this morning and found to be false. Decision Desk HQ, an election results aggregation service (not a local or state election office, I should point out) whose intermediate results printouts are the source of this claim, had erroneously entered 15,371 votes for Biden as 153,710 votes. When this was discovered, they subtracted the excess votes that were erroneously added to Biden's total, which is 153,710 - 15,371 = 138,339 votes. Then somebody spread around a meme inverting the order of these two events, making it appear that Biden had picked up 138,339 votes out of nowhere when in fact he had 138,339 votes taken away from his DDHQ total to fix the initial mistake.

I also haven't seen any credible analyses showing instances of more votes than registered voters. Perhaps there is a genuine one that I have missed, but I saw many reports like this coming out following election day, and all of them were erroneous in some way. They used registration numbers that were out of date, some even from as far back as 2018, and often ignored the existence of same-day voter registration in the state as well.

About the only genuine anomaly that it highlights, which is one I find perplexing, is the discrepancy between the presidential and Senate races on the Democratic side. I do think it is quite odd that, across many states, Trump and GOP Senate votes match up quite closely while Biden outperforms the Democratic Senate candidate by much larger margins. The close downballot correspondence on the Republican side would appear to detract from the possible theory that Republicans crossed over to support Biden while still supporting the GOP Senator, since votes for Trump already explain nearly all of the votes for the GOP Senate candidate. I think this is bizarre and likely to indicate some kind of tampering. But for the sake of fairness, this could indicate stuffing of Biden votes or a systemic effort to diminish the vote totals of Democratic Senate candidates, if the Senate was viewed by election riggers as a more valuable prize than the presidency. More information would be needed to see which of these two possibilities this odd downballot pattern is most likely to be caused by.
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Re: America’s Own Color Revolution

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:16 am

conniption » 16 Oct 2020 10:51 wrote:
Joe Hillshoist » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:42 pm wrote:...Mate people say stuff online they would never say to people's faces....


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DrEvil wrote:Of course. It couldn't possibly be that you just don't like fascists. You clearly have an agenda. How much is Soros paying you?


Maybe computers should come with a boxing glove on a spring that punches you whenever you say something that would get you punched in real life (I would probably have permanent brain damage by now if that was the case, but hey, win some, lose some).

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You talkin' to me?

If I were moderator...I'd have to give you guys some time off for threatening a fellow board member with not-so subtle violent acts. Not to mention hijacking threads...

For shame!

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Coming Soon to a U.S. Neighborhood Near You? Regime-Change Foot Soldiers Parading as Social Justice Warriors
Robert Bridge
September 22, 2020


Is the ‘Trump regime’ about to get a taste of the color revolution tactics that America has employed in the past against “illiberal” foreign governments that refused to toe the neoliberal globalist line? It’s looking highly likely.

Despite great efforts by the mainstream media to play it down, an increasing number of Americans are being subjected to a level of aggression, intimidation and street violence that the authorities seem unable or unwilling to control. This is no accident.

Since 2016, a series of actions by the political left indicate that the chaos unfolding on the streets of America is no grassroots movement on behalf of ‘social justice,’ but rather a carefully coordinated plan to oust Trump in the event the Democrats fail to get Biden into office. Indeed, for the orchestrators of this coup, what happens on Nov. 4 is of far more relevance that what happens on Election Day.

The first sign of trouble came in 2016, when none other than George Soros began spending a king’s ransom in local judicial elections. As the Daily Signal noted, “[r]adical social justice activists will serve as the top prosecutors for three major Washington, D.C., suburbs—including the two wealthiest counties in the U.S.—after George Soros’ political action committee poured $2.1 million into ordinarily sleepy local races.”

Only a crazed conspiracy theorist, like Newt Gingrich, apparently, would see any connection between Soros supporting radical prosecutors, and his other pet project of supporting ‘social justice’ groups, like Black Lives Matter and Antifa, who occasionally find themselves in need of a sympathetic justice system. And if local courts somehow fail to catch and release the hoodlums, Hollywood has shown a disturbing willingness to write out the bail checks. The only thing the looters and ‘peaceful protesters’ need now is a government mandate that requires masks be worn in public to protect their identities, and for property owners to understand they will be prosecuted for demonstrating their 2nd Amendment rights.

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In celebration of whatever the fuck maga night is, I am committed to donating $100,000 to the bail outs of protestors across the country.


Now that the radicals have their institutional support structure all in place, a strange yet not wholly unexpected thing is happening. Although police brutality has been occurring in the United States long Trump became president, and it effects both whites and blacks, the ‘peaceful protesters’ are venting their outrage primarily against Republicans, which the left has come to associate with ‘white supremacists’ and ‘fascism.’ This demonization of the right, which the mainstream media is happy to accentuate so long Trump is at the helm, gives left-wing groups the bare amount of legitimacy they need to carry out their activities.

By way of example, consider the way members of Black Lives Matter aggressively taunted Republicans as they attempted to leave the Republican National Convention where Trump accepted the nomination for the presidential election. As Senator Rand Paul and his wife Michele walked down the sidewalk, a frenzied mob could be heard shouting, “say her name!” in reference to Breonna Taylor, a 26-year-old Black woman who was shot to death by police at her home in March during a botched raid. Apparently it did not matter to the rabble, or they never knew, that Paul was responsible for filing legislation to prohibit police officers from using no-knock warrants like the one that led to the fatal shooting of Ms. Taylor.

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10:39 PM · Aug 27, 2020


Another strange coincidence for the coincidence theorists is that a number of Democrats have been calling for exactly the sort of harassment against Trump supporters that is now unfolding across the nation. In June, Maxine Waters, for example, incited her followers to “create a crowd, and you push back on them.” More recently, Kamala Harris, the Democratic vice president nominee, said in an interview with Stephen Colbert, “They [the protesters] are not going to stop before Election Day in November, and they’re not going to stop after Election Day…They’re not going to let up, and they should not, and we should not.”

Reading such comments almost forces one to conclude that the Democrats, at least the radical progressive wing of the Democratic Party, have no illusions about Biden’s real chances for beating Trump. After all, if victory looked certain there would be no need for the threats. In other words, what the Democrats are most concerned about are not the actual results of the election, which have a very high chance of being unfavorable, but rather the reaction to the results. On this point, appearances are everything. Thus the mainstream media, in cahoots with left-leaning polling agencies and colleges, have conditioned Liberals – in the very same way they did in 2016 with their hugely inaccurate polls – to believe that Biden simply cannot lose. It doesn’t require a degree in the theory of revolutions to predict how those BLM/Antifa protesters, many of whom were too young to vote in 2016, are going to react to the news of four more years of a ‘white supremacist in chief.’ Not calmly and rationally, that’s for sure. After all, we are talking about an entire generation that has graduated from Woke U. with a Marxist major in ‘American Imperialism’ and a minor in ‘Mass Destruction’.

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Did you know:

According to a Princeton study, 91% of riots in America since the end of May were linked to BLM inc.

That means 9 out of 10 riots were propped up by the Democrat Party's fundraising system, ActBlue

When will Joe Biden disavow Domestic Terrorism from his base?
9:37 AM · Sep 18, 2020


Here is where the stage has been rigged for a full-blown ‘color revolution’ erupting on or shortly after November 3rd. If anyone needs more proof, consider Hillary Clinton’s telling comment that “Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances” because he will win if “we don’t give an inch.” In other words, the election has nothing to do with counting votes, or even mail-in ballots, but rather which side, according to the rationale of Hillary Clinton, has the greater staying power.

As witnessed in faraway places where the U.S. State Department prepared the groundwork for regime change operations against governments and leaders they did not like, as in Ukraine, for example, and more recently in Belarus, it will take no effort whatsoever for the puppet masters to mobilize ‘social justice groups’ like BLM and Antifa to come out in massive protest against the results of November’s contest. And since we are talking about a homegrown operation, there is no need for NGOs working secretly behind the scenes to rally the locals into action; the killing of George Floyd at the hands of a white police officer was all that was required to mobilize the media and the young radicals of the left against ‘systemic racism,’ which is just another way of saying ‘white supremacy,’ which is just another way of saying ‘Donald Trump.’

Have America’s regime-change vultures come home to roost? Unfortunately, such a grim prospect is looking more likely with each passing day as Nov. 3rd promises to be a presidential election without precedent in U.S. history. That is the day when the American Revolution may go full circle.

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Did you know there have been two times I've explicitly and overtly threatened people with physical violence on this board?

Jeff was here at the time and neither time did he object. Once he laughed in the face of the person I threatened and told them to haul their racist arse elsewhere.

You suggested I was pals with some regime overthrowing types working for US imperialists.

I doubt you'd do that in real life.
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Re: America’s Own Color Revolution

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:22 am

And that's not a threat. If you were talking to me in real life you'd have seen with your own eyes how ridiculous th idea was.
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Re: America’s Own Color Revolution

Postby Marionumber1 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:51 pm

A rather disturbing revelation from a CNN reporter about how troop withdrawal was thwarted:

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The sad thing is that many establishment liberals seem to be celebrating this as a good thing, to keep a "madman" Trump from messing up our virtuous foreign policy and/or doing Putin's bidding. Just as sad, however, is the grouping of conservative Q types and leftie journalists like Aaron Maté and Glenn Greenwald who seem to be getting conned in the other direction by presenting it as if Trump's troop withdrawal efforts were sincere and would have occurred if not for this. The notion of the deep state being at war with Trump is, as noted before in this thread, fundamentally wrong. Indeed, if Trump were sincere about ending foreign wars, it strains belief that he would simply take the word of the swamp he has railed against and purportedly opposes. He is thoroughly complicit if he sat back complacently and believed the deep state.

What really seems to be going on is another propaganda setup so that at least some element of the establishment comes out looking virtuous to everybody. Those opposed to troop withdrawal will cheer on the military's deception and those rightfully in support of it will treat Trump as a victim who was, whatever his reasons or general faults, trying to do the right thing in this instance. Like the QAnon farce, this feels like another instance of even the brightest anti-establishment thinkers being herded back into giving (albeit qualified) support to the establishment.
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Re: America’s Own Color Revolution

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:13 pm

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And now, a premonition from our modern-day prophet:


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Re: America’s Own Color Revolution

Postby Marionumber1 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:07 am

It sure is incredible how "the current election fraud" supposedly in Biden's favor is being treated as an already-proven fact in the absence of any kind of solid evidence establishing it with anywhere near that level of certainty.
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