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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:17 pm

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IFR anywhere close to 1% is, frankly, a gross over-estimation.

all Covid death stats are inflated: under direction of the WHO, deaths ‘from” and incidentally “with” Covid are not distinguished. Death coding has changed compared to Influenza/Pneumonia. According to one published analysis, this has resulted in over 16 times inflation of death stats, as supported by CDC data.
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Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) stats based on seroprevalence antibody studies are also inflated since T-cell immunity is not measured in these studies. This may result in a 3-5X lower IFR for Covid. Regardless, the general IFR is on order of the seasonal influenza, approx. 0.2%.
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Covid mortality is a reflection of increased mortality with age, more so than influenza/pneumonia of previous years. The median age of Covid deaths (86) exceeds average life expectancy in Canada. Tragically, 70% of the deaths in the province of Ontario took place in care homes. The mortality rate from Covid in Canada under 59 years of age is 0.0017%.

According to the CDC, the survival from Covid (with inflated stats) is as follows: (under 20) 99.997%, (29-49) 99.98%, (50-69) 99.5% and (over 70), 94.6%.

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Source: "Synthetic mRNA Covid vaccines: A Risk-Benefit Analysis"
https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/22/syn ... -analysis/

Outside of Long Term Care (LTR) the risk of dying if infected is approx 0.2%, and the majority of those deaths are within the frail and elderly.

The. Numbers. Have. Been. Manipulated. And. Misleading. From. The. Onset.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:42 pm

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PSA: An alternative to risky Covid "vaccines".

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/lil ... aths-by-87



Eli Lilly COVID-19 antibody combo aces study, cutting hospitalizations and deaths by a whopping 87%

Eli Lilly’s COVID-19 antibody combo already boasts an FDA authorization for patients at a high risk of developing severe disease, but now the company has even stronger data backing the duo.

In trial data released Wednesday, the company said its bamlanivimab-etesevimab duo slashed the risk of hospitalization and death by a whopping 87% versus placebo. Investigators tested a combination of 700 mg of bamlanivimab and 1400 mg of etesevimab in a trial comprising 769 patients total.

It's the starkest reduction in hospitalizations and deaths for a COVID-19 therapeutic seen so far, and in a “fairly sizable” sample size, Lilly’s COVID-19 therapeutics platform leader Janelle Sabo said in an interview.


Lilly's combo previously posted a 70% reduction in hospitalizations and deaths at higher doses of 2800 mg each. The new trial used the doses now authorized by the FDA in newly diagnosed patients at high risk of severe disease—the same population the combo is approved to treat.

The new trial reinforces other data Lilly has seen to date and shows the FDA's authorization covers the right doses in the right patients, Sabo added.

The combo scored its emergency nod last month on the heels of the earlier data. Lilly has partnered with Amgen to help produce up to 1 million doses of the cocktail this year.

Patients over 65, or those under 65 but who are overweight or have multiple health problems, qualify as high-risk for treatment with the drug. For patients under 65, it’s “about looking at the combination of weight” and other factors, Sabo said.

In the new study, investigators tracked four hospitalizations and zero deaths among patients who received the Lilly antibody combo. That compared with 11 hospitalizations and four deaths for patients on placebo.

In the two phase 3 cohorts so far, zero patients who received the antibody combination have died, while 14 patients died on placebo. Thirteen of those placebo deaths were deemed to be related to COVID-19.

After its FDA authorization, Lilly inked another supply deal with the U.S. government covering 100,000 doses for $210 million. The doses will be delivered before the end of the month, and the government has the option to purchase 1.1 million more doses through Nov. 25 depending on demand.


Ivermectin appears to be very effective as well, despite attempts to censor its efficacy.

This link is a worthwhile read as well:

https://abettervision.medium.com/early- ... 864652f67a

Excerpt:


Early Treatment of Covid-19: Review of a Tragically Censored Online Physician Resource

Introduction

There is a deadly idea abroad the land — oft and tragically repeated by mainstream and big tech media — that there is no early treatment for Covid-19.

Accordingly, hundreds of thousands who have fallen ill have been advised to wait at home without help until their hospitalizations and ensuing deaths.

In Western nations, doctors who dare to speak out or to prescribe early Covid-19 treatments (based on clinical trials that the media have failed to report) have been openly censured and ridiculed.

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby thankyouberrymuch » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:00 pm

100k doses of antibody treatment for 210 MILLION, god damn.

I don’t know if anyone is interested in the lab leak origin theory for Covid, but as I research it more and more it has started to make more and more sense. One of my favorite aspects of the theory (and any theory really) is the attempts at cover-up. This Peter Daszak guy is ridiculous. He literally worked with the Wuhan Institute of Virology re: coronavirus research a few years back, and yet was mind-bogglingly assigned to the WHO team investigating the origin of the initial outbreak in Wuhan.

To add insult to pathetic-media-injury, every time this “team” is featured in an article about the investigation, Daszak is the only person interviewed. Here’s the latest one of this sad series from NPR, where Daszak decides to pin the blame on animal farms in Southern China— anything, anything other than the sketchy Virology Institute in Wuhan that did sketchy gain of function experiments with bat coronaviruses as of a few years ago, which it just so happens that he himself actually participated in. Sounds legit.

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby dada » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:38 pm

"and the majority of those deaths are within the frail and elderly."

Why 'within?' What is the difference between putting it this way, and saying those who have died, are mostly sickly and old.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:54 pm

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Is there a difference? I'm not being coy here. I don't see the notable difference, other than stylistic flow, perhaps (and in this respect yours is preferred; I'm not the wordsmith I'd like to think I appear to be at times).
Perhaps I'm missing something.

In other news, this is beginning to raise a few eyebrows (justly or not):

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https://twitter.com/OffGuardian0/status ... 1820292099

Will also need to look into the accuracy of the following story at my next spot of free time (unless someone else can verify this - and not via snopes, needless to say.):

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby dada » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:30 am

"Is there a difference?"

I think there's a difference in the way the thinking unfolds, after the statements are made. Saying that it is sickly and old people who have died personalizes it, these are dead individuals we're discussing. It evokes compassion in a healthy individual, a normal human desire to protect the sickly and old. Saying the dead are within a demographic creates emotional distance, living and dying is presented as a matter of statistics. The situation is abstract, detached from reality.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:27 am

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Interesting. And what do you think about those that frame these narratives for the masses?

Your deconstruction and narrow focus on a particular turn of phrase in the writings of an anonymous forum member -- in this case, me -- in a relatively obscure forum is of little consequence, and of course, speaks nothing to my real world exposure to this virus: how actions by govts have impacted my family, friends, and associates. An aspersion on your part to hint otherwise.

This analysis of yours would be better served if applied to those that have far more influence and impact on the majority. After all, it was you, wasn't it, that initially waved away the notion of suicides among youths being tied to lockdown measures, was it not? This was well before it became a tragic trend, of course, but you initially called it 'ghoulish' on the part of Jeff Wells for tying a news story about teen suicide to Lockdown.

Ghoulish! The irony.

Note: I've no interest in turning this into a back and forth commentary, so will leave the above as my lone response on this. You're welcome to reply, of course, but I'll be moving on.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby dada » Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:17 pm

Funny, back and forth commentary is exactly what I encourage.

What I'm arguing against isn't you, but a capitalist model of health. We're all opinionating on the way to a healthy society. When life is seen as a commodity, statisttical analysis and demography are applied to the consumer health market. I'm saying that this approach is flawed, because life isn't a commodity, and human beings and consumers are not the same thing.
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Postby dada » Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:33 pm

So I think it makes a difference whether we begin from a society of individuals, or a capitalist society of consumers. Starting from the consumer, the biosecurity industry is opening a new market, tapping into the consumer wish to defeat or escape from death. A lucrative market, constantly self-renewing. Now everything shady and nefarious makes perfect financial sense. Take the consumer out of the equation, all that still goes on, but the capitalist foundation is missing, making it appear all dark forces creepy instead of business as usual.


So we become fascinated by the creepy worldview. But attempts at technocratic restructuring of societies happen fairly often. I think they usually fail to reach their objectves for the most part, though sometimes play a greater or lesser role in longer term societal shifts. But overall, societal forms have a sort of inertial gravity. Not so much a natural resistance as a frustrating resilience.
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Postby Grizzly » Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:25 pm

not long ago I saw a video of a family banned for life for this...2 year olds kicked off for not wearing mask but elite pols get a pass?
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https://twitter.com/NeilWMcCabe2/status/1372259756199571459



Rand Paul EXPLODES on Dr. Fauci Over Masks and Vaccines in HEATED Exchange



Covid-19 Vaccines Are Weapons of Mass Destruction - and Could Wipe out the Human Race
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/covid-19-vaccines-are-weapons-of-mass-destruction-and-could-wipe-out-the-human-race_GcjtJu9dY1RcSNh.html
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Grizzly » Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:16 pm

Why is there currently no global moratorium on the continued experimentation in the field of gain-of-function alteration of viruses? RI?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby dada » Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:36 pm

A global moratorium would not deter a truly mad scientist. So a cap on research wouldn't stop developments in the field, but it would put all of the garden variety mad scientists at a disadvantage.

Not saying I agree with the argument, just pointing out the train of logic that justifies the continued search for total control of all the little beasties.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:16 pm

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https://off-guardian.org/2021/03/20/dis ... r-freedom/


Today marks the Worldwide Rally for Freedom, where anti-Lockdown protests take place in different countries all around the world.

The march is taking the usual route in London (live stream embedded above or on Facebook here).

Tens-of-thousands of people have marched in Germany, where protesters also raised this column attempting to put the Covid “pandemic” in some perspective:

In France, where Macron has just announced a new lockdown of the capital, furious protests are expected all weekend.

The mainstream coverage of the protests veers from non-existent to predictable partisan dishonesty and fearmongering. The Guardian, for example, has no mention of the protests at all. While DW.com reports that protests “despite rising infections”.

The Local, translating Swedish sources, says Stockholm’s police are “bracing for violence”.

Numerous protests are expected in cities across the United States as well. The US press has gone out its way to paint them as “far right” or “MAGA” or “QAnon” related. Liberally using the word “extremist”, as you’d imagine.
(There’s a good discussion of this on New World Nextweek, with James Corbett and James Evan Pilato).

Other protests taking place today included rallies in Cape Town and Amsterdam.

If you have links to videos or social media concerning any protests around the world, paste them in the comments and we’ll try to add them to our list.

You can tweet about these events using the hashtag #WeWillALLBeThere.




https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -worldwide



Thousands, and possibly tens-of-thousands of protesters across Europe marched on Saturday against continued government lockdowns and other pandemic restrictions based on questionable science - which have resulted in mass unemployment, destroyed small businesses, stoked widespread depression and mental illness, and cost taxpayers trillions to keep the whole ship from sinking.

Protesters in London, Germany, France, Sweden, The Netherlands, Australia, Belgium, Japan, Vienna and elsewhere came out for the Worldwide Rally for Freedom.

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In central London, thousands of anti-lockdown activists were seen walking through Hyde Park, chanting "stand up, take our freedom back!"

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This is by far the BIGGEST UK protest I have seen. They will not be able to police these crowds.

#RightToProtest #londonprotest #lockdown2021

https://twitter.com/BreesAnna/status/13 ... 17476?s=20

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“Stop destroying our kids’ lives”
Huge crowd shuts down traffic in central #London at anti-lockdown protest. The UK has been in strict lock down since December.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/13 ... 76775?s=20

In Germany, police used pepper spray on protesters in the city of Kassel, where 15,000 - 20,000 demonstrators showed up, according to the Daily Mail. Some 1,800 officers were placed on standby in Berlin.

Several thousand people gathered at the main protest site on a square in Kessel's city centre, packed closely together without wearing face masks, an AFP reporter saw.

Scuffles erupted when a group of demonstrators tried to break through a police cordon to join up with other protesters, resulting in shoving and prompting officers to use pepper spray. -Daily Mail


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VIDEO: “Free to speak. Free to breathe.” Pro-democracy protest in #Melbourne.

#COVID19 #Paris #WeWillALLBeThere #London #SCAMDEMIC2021 #Kassel #Berlin #MarcheDesLibertes

https://twitter.com/freddie1999/status/ ... 45986?s=20

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Veterans form a line of defence for anti lockdown protesters in Amsterdam.

https://twitter.com/QueenNat_35/status/ ... 54946?s=20

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Huge protests in Belgium too as the world unites against Coronavirus tyranny.



Videos of protests at source/twitter links.
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