Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

[DrEvil]

NellyTells makes a good point but this:

The Nazis didn't dehumanize children like that

Tell that to these children.



Or these kids who were medically experimented on.



So Dr. Evil, are you still not seeing what is going on around the globe? BelSav and others have show the references to what pretty much constitutes marshal law in Australia. To the north Canada is on it's way and here in the U.S. people on social media, in polls etc... are saying the unvaxxed should be arrested. Yet you call bullshit on it.

Are you living in someone's basement with the curtains closed? You don't live in the states, but act incredulous when we are seeing EVERYDAY more and more creep. It's one thing to read about it in social media or see a video of a faux pollster asking people in LA if the unvaxxed ought to be arrested. What creeps me out is people I know for reals who are talking about this shit. Wasn't your saying "punch a Nazi?" I'm really close to being there. My girlfriend is faced daily with clients who are harassing her about getting vaxxed and posting shit on social media being passive aggressive fascist fucks making shit comments. Just because you're living in some bubble doesn't mean things aren't getting worse for the rest of us.

Not that it's a burden, and we got our money back, but the Dead & Company (formerly Grateful Dead) are requiring venues to force concert attendees to show their fucking papers or proof of a negative test. We sold our tickets online and got our money back. This is just a tiny thing compared to people losing their jobs because they choose not to be raped by big pharma needles. And no, I'm not interested in just closing my eyes and pretending the shot would feel good.

My son is in his mid-20s and feeling extremely depressed about all this shit. It's incredibly concerning and sad as fuck that all his friends are buying into the mainstream fascist agenda and bragging about getting vaxxed. All of his coworkers and some our our family as well are the same. The stats on suicide are fucking real. How the fuck would you like to see your grown son crying at the dinner table telling you that he has no hope for a future with this 1984 Orwellian creepy totalitarian shit? Do you think this is funny? I'm really sick and tired of your shitty comments denigrating or making fun of people like BelSav or others who are doing a knock-up job presenting troves of information as well as reports on how our lives are being impacted.

Scroll back up and look again at the horrifying images of the dirty children forced into camps by Nazis. Do you not realize vaccine passports are being implemented in the U.S.?

The last few posts have been an interesting detour into tangent valley. All I did was voice my disgust at co-opting the yellow star, a symbol of one of the worst crimes committed in human history. I'm fully aware of all the shit going on, but I still think comparing it to Nazi fucking Germany is stupid levels of hyperbole. Vaccine passports are not the same as performing lethal medical experiments on children, or executing them on an industrial scale.

[stickdog99]

DrEvil has been defending mass poisoning campaigns against children since before I signed up for this board. No surprise he's defending it today. If they do start shipping people off to re-education camps, he will likely applaud that as well. "It's only for two weeks, what's the big deal?"

It's not authoritarianism if it is for your own good. You know, like circumcision, mercury teeth fillings, fluoride in your drinking water, and a forced vaccination for a sexually transmitted disease when you are just one day old, totally regardless of your mother's health status.

[stickdog99]

Just in time to take full credit for a steep decline in COVID-19 cases that already started 2 weeks ago, San Francisco now requires proof of vaccination (and will not accept a negative COVID-19 test) for entrance into any indoor business that serves food or drinks. So you are not discriminated against if you are clearly contagious but vaccinated, but you are discriminated against if you are totally healthy but unvaccinated. Does this make sense to any of you? When has anyone ever had to produce his or her medical records to enter a place of business before?

Recent articles I have seen in the past two weeks appear in major US publications have argued that unvaccinated individuals

1) should be banned from receiving any public health assistance,
2) should have to pay much higher health insurance premiums, and
3) should all immediately be placed on the Department of Homeland Security's no fly list.

The FDA's completely political decision to grant full approval to the Pfizer vaccine has now resulted in vaccine mandates for everyone in the US military and for almost everyone who works for the federal government.

People who want to mandate vaccines demand that we follow corporate shills into a nightmare world in which fundamental rights are restricted only to those who can produce their Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big Brother QR code approval.

Regardless of your vaccination status or your beliefs about the efficacy and safety of these new mRNA vaccines, how can you not see how terrible a precedent this sets as well as how terrible the precedents all the ill-considered and highly discriminatory arguments proffered above would set?

If you can be denied healthcare and and the right to travel based on your rational decision not to get injected with a new experimental mRNA technology devised to confer limited protection against a respiratory condition that 99.9% of healthy people fully recover from, what fucking rationale is there to stop future laws that require all individuals to prove their full vaccine compliance, to prove that they have taken all of their "approved" drugs, and to prove that they have met but not exceeded their recommended daily consumption of their chocolate rations?

[DrEvil]

DrEvil has been defending mass poisoning campaigns against children since before I signed up for this board. No surprise he's defending it today. If they do start shipping people off to re-education camps, he will likely applaud that as well. "It's only for two weeks, what's the big deal?"

Here's a thought: comment on what I wrote, not what you think I wrote.

[DrEvil]

DrEvil has been defending mass poisoning campaigns against children since before I signed up for this board. No surprise he's defending it today. If they do start shipping people off to re-education camps, he will likely applaud that as well. "It's only for two weeks, what's the big deal?"

It's not authoritarianism if it is for your own good. You know, like circumcision, mercury teeth fillings, fluoride in your drinking water, and a forced vaccination for a sexually transmitted disease when you are just one day old, totally regardless of your mother's health status.

Good thing I'm against all those things then.

[Harvey]

Good thing I'm against all those things then.

Perhaps you might set out clearly where you stand on all those things, clear the air.

[mentalgongfu2]

Perhaps you might set out clearly where you stand on all those things, clear the air.

Hey guys, I learned a new word the other day: sophistry.

Can anybody here tell me what it means?

[stickdog99]

The thing I don't get is the reflexive way that the vaccinated typically defend any and all discrimination of the unvaccinated without ever following through the clear authoritarian overreach of the Big Tech. Big Pharma, Big Insurance, and Big Brother policies that they are defending merely because they have been told 24/7 by all major media outlets that their resentment of the unvaccinated is totally justified.

For example, when I say that the vaccinated are the Hutus, and unvaccinated are the Tutsis, most vaccinated individuals' immediate visceral response is to say something like, "I still think comparing this to Rwandan genocide is stupid levels of hyperbole. Vaccine passports are not the same as ... "

Why? Why is this your initial reflexive response to any totally justified complaints about clear and totally unjustifiable authoritarian biosecurity overreach? Do you REALLY so desperately need to have everyone around you vaccinated against COVID-19 with shitty leaky vaccines that you are happy to open up the gates of total authoritarian biosecurity awareness just to punish the unclean Jews/Tutsis/unvaccinated?

[stickdog99]

Perhaps you might set out clearly where you stand on all those things, clear the air.

Hey guys, I learned a new word the other day: sophistry.

Can anybody here tell me what it means?

Can anybody tell me how they can support vaccine passports and/or denying the unvaccinated the right to travel and the right to healthcare?

[Harvey]

Perhaps you might set out clearly where you stand on all those things, clear the air.

Hey guys, I learned a new word the other day: sophistry.

Can anybody here tell me what it means?

Can you set out clearly where you stand? I have grave doubts that you can.

For example:

"I am in favour of frightening people out of their wits for over a year with lies about a virus, to the degree that many will commit suicide or force their children, the least at risk, to wear masks known to be ineffective. I want people to become ill through fear. I want to close down small businesses and consolidate wealth and power in the hands of the few. I want to restrict safe, effective and cheap treatments but adopt extremely expensive experimental drugs as the first and only resort. I believe Flu can spontaneously disappear. I believe frightened people should be coerced into taking an experimental 'vaccine' and removed from their job for expressing an opinion or refusing to be a lab rat in the big experiment upon their health and well being. Anyone who disagrees should be locked out of public discourse and the tens of thousands of deaths, the hundreds of thousands of injuries are a small price to pay so that I can feel as every bit as smug as I appear to be. I believe that expressing any doubts about corporate pharmaceuticals should disqualify anyone from having basic health care. I believe that by saying no to the meat grinder such people have relinquished their right to life."

But far be it from me to put words in your mouth, why don't you actually state what it is you actually think about all of this, instead of sniping from your ivory tower every so often.

[stickdog99]

Perhaps you might set out clearly where you stand on all those things, clear the air.

Hey guys, I learned a new word the other day: sophistry.

Can anybody here tell me what it means?

Can you set out clearly where you stand? I have grave doubts that you can.

[mentalgongfu2]

Hard to take some requests at face value since I have on multiple occasions clearly laid out where I stand. The fact that some continue to ignore it and repeat the same entrance exam suggests they aren't listening EXCEPT when they put words in my mouth like Harvey's made-up story does above.

My sole purpose in this thread at this time is to point out when people claim things that are demonstrably false and/or slippery BS, usually followed by one of your busy bunch reframing to say that it doesn't matter if the facts are wrong as long as the sentiment is OK. I'm still here so that other people who may read this thread realize there is more to consider than the mere volume of repetitive claims from a subset of like-minded individuals.

I guess it fits that Harvey would ignore all the stuff I actually have said about the disease and the restrictions in favor of pretending I said a bunch of ludicrous shit, since most of what Harvey posts on this thread also comes from make-believe land.

[stickdog99]

I guess it's fitting that you have once again said absolutely nothing substantive.

I am still waiting to be provided with any actual evidence or even any actual reasoned argument that could please, please, please help me to stop worrying and to learn to love mask mandates, lockdown mandates, and especially mRNA "vaccine" mandates.

Sadly, all I ever seem to get are empty statements of personal indignation that are always completely bereft of any relevant data as well as any coherent arguments. Why is that?

Why won't anybody here even make the barest attempt to help me see this your and the entire corporate medical establishment's way?

[DrEvil]

The thing I don't get is the reflexive way that the vaccinated typically defend any and all discrimination of the unvaccinated without ever following through the clear authoritarian overreach of the Big Tech. Big Pharma, Big Insurance, and Big Brother policies that they are defending merely because they have been told 24/7 by all major media outlets that their resentment of the unvaccinated is totally justified.

For example, when I say that the vaccinated are the Hutus, and unvaccinated are the Tutsis, most vaccinated individuals' immediate visceral response is to say something like, "I still think comparing this to Rwandan genocide is stupid levels of hyperbole. Vaccine passports are not the same as ... "

Why? Why is this your initial reflexive response to any totally justified complaints about clear and totally unjustifiable authoritarian biosecurity overreach? Do you REALLY so desperately need to have everyone around you vaccinated against COVID-19 with shitty leaky vaccines that you are happy to open up the gates of total authoritarian biosecurity awareness just to punish the unclean Jews/Tutsis/unvaccinated?

Why? Maybe because the vaccinated aren't literally coming after the unvaccinated with machetes? Is it really so hard to understand the difference?

And just to be perfectly clear: all I'm complaining about here is the comparisons to genocide. If you don't want the vaccine then don't get the vaccine, but don't go around comparing yourself to victims of actual genocide, because it's moronic levels of hyperbole that only serves to turn away people who might otherwise agree with you, like no-planers and 9/11.

[stickdog99]

"Gosh, I am SO sorry to have overstated my case!"

And?

I am still very patently waiting to be provided with any actual evidence or even any actual reasoned argument that could please, please, please help me to stop worrying and to learn to love mask mandates, lockdown mandates, and especially mRNA "vaccine" mandates.

Sadly, all I ever seem to get are empty statements of personal indignation that are always completely bereft of any relevant data as well as any coherent arguments. Why is that?

Why won't anybody here even make the barest attempt to help me see this your and the entire corporate medical establishment's way?