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A Christmas Message From America's Rich

Postby 2012 Countdown » Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:25 pm

A Christmas Message From America's Rich
POSTED: DECEMBER 22, 9:05 AM ET
By MATT TAIBBI

It seems America’s bankers are tired of all the abuse. They’ve decided to speak out.
True, they’re doing it from behind the ropeline, in front of friendly crowds at industry conferences and country clubs, meaning they don’t have to look the rest of America in the eye when they call us all imbeciles and complain that they shouldn’t have to apologize for being so successful.

But while they haven’t yet deigned to talk to protesting America face to face, they are willing to scribble out some complaints on notes and send them downstairs on silver trays. Courtesy of a remarkable story by Max Abelson at Bloomberg, we now get to hear some of those choice comments.
Home Depot co-founder Bernard Marcus, for instance, is not worried about OWS:

“Who gives a crap about some imbecile?” Marcus said. “Are you kidding me?”

Former New York gurbernatorial candidate Tom Golisano, the billionaire owner of the billing firm Paychex, offered his wisdom while his half-his-age tennis champion girlfriend hung on his arm:

“If I hear a politician use the term ‘paying your fair share’ one more time, I’m going to vomit,” said Golisano, who turned 70 last month, celebrating the birthday with girlfriend Monica Seles, the former tennis star who won nine Grand Slam singles titles.

Then there’s Leon Cooperman, the former chief of Goldman Sachs’s money-management unit, who said he was urged to speak out by his fellow golfers. His message was a version of Wall Street’s increasingly popular If-you-people-want-a-job, then-you’ll-shut-the-fuck-up rhetorical line:

Cooperman, 68, said in an interview that he can’t walk through the dining room of St. Andrews Country Club in Boca Raton, Florida, without being thanked for speaking up. At least four people expressed their gratitude on Dec. 5 while he was eating an egg-white omelet, he said.

“You’ll get more out of me,” the billionaire said, “if you treat me with respect.”

Finally, there is this from Blackstone CEO Steven Schwartzman:
Asked if he were willing to pay more taxes in a Nov. 30 interview with Bloomberg Television, Blackstone Group LP CEO Stephen Schwarzman spoke about lower-income U.S. families who pay no income tax.

“You have to have skin in the game,” said Schwarzman, 64. “I’m not saying how much people should do. But we should all be part of the system.”

There are obviously a great many things that one could say about this remarkable collection of quotes. One could even, if one wanted, simply savor them alone, without commentary, like lumps of fresh caviar, or raw oysters.

But out of Abelson’s collection of doleful woe-is-us complaints from the offended rich, the one that deserves the most attention is Schwarzman’s line about lower-income folks lacking “skin in the game.” This incredible statement gets right to the heart of why these people suck.

Why? It's not because Schwarzman is factually wrong about lower-income people having no “skin in the game,” ignoring the fact that everyone pays sales taxes, and most everyone pays payroll taxes, and of course there are property taxes for even the lowliest subprime mortgage holders, and so on.

It’s not even because Schwarzman probably himself pays close to zero in income tax – as a private equity chief, he doesn’t pay income tax but tax on carried interest, which carries a maximum 15% tax rate, half the rate of a New York City firefighter.

The real issue has to do with the context of Schwarzman’s quote. The Blackstone billionaire, remember, is one of the more uniquely abhorrent, self-congratulating jerks in the entire world – a man who famously symbolized the excesses of the crisis era when, just as the rest of America was heading into a recession, he threw himself a $5 million birthday party, featuring private performances by Rod Stewart and Patti Labelle, to celebrate an IPO that made him $677 million in a matter of days (within a year, incidentally, the investors who bought that stock would lose three-fourths of their investments).

So that IPO birthday boy is now standing up and insisting, with a straight face, that America’s problem is that compared to taxpaying billionaires like himself, poor people are not invested enough in our society’s future. Apparently, we’d all be in much better shape if the poor were as motivated as Steven Schwarzman is to make America a better place.

But it seems to me that if you’re broke enough that you’re not paying any income tax, you’ve got nothing but skin in the game. You've got it all riding on how well America works.

You can’t afford private security: you need to depend on the police. You can’t afford private health care: Medicare is all you have. You get arrested, you’re not hiring Davis, Polk to get you out of jail: you rely on a public defender to negotiate a court system you'd better pray deals with everyone from the same deck. And you can’t hire landscapers to manicure your lawn and trim your trees: you need the garbage man to come on time and you need the city to patch the potholes in your street.

And in the bigger picture, of course, you need the state and the private sector both to be functioning well enough to provide you with regular work, and a safe place to raise your children, and clean water and clean air.

The entire ethos of modern Wall Street, on the other hand, is complete indifference to all of these matters. The very rich on today’s Wall Street are now so rich that they buy their own social infrastructure. They hire private security, they live on gated mansions on islands and other tax havens, and most notably, they buy their own justice and their own government.

An ordinary person who has a problem that needs fixing puts a letter in the mail to his congressman and sends it to stand in a line in some DC mailroom with thousands of others, waiting for a response.

But citizens of the stateless archipelago where people like Schwarzman live spend millions a year lobbying and donating to political campaigns so that they can jump the line. They don’t need to make sure the government is fulfilling its customer-service obligations, because they buy special access to the government, and get the special service and the metaphorical comped bottle of VIP-room Cristal afforded to select customers.

Want to lower the capital reserve requirements for investment banks? Then-Goldman CEO Hank Paulson takes a meeting with SEC chief Bill Donaldson, and gets it done. Want to kill an attempt to erase the carried interest tax break? Guys like Schwarzman, and Apollo’s Leon Black, and Carlyle’s David Rubenstein, they just show up in Washington at Max Baucus’s doorstep, and they get it killed.

Some of these people take that VIP-room idea a step further. J.P. Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon – the man the New York Times once called “Obama’s favorite banker” – had an excellent method of guaranteeing that the Federal Reserve system’s doors would always be open to him. What he did was, he served as the Chairman of the Board of the New York Fed.

And in 2008, in that moonlighting capacity, he orchestrated a deal in which the Fed provided $29 billion in assistance to help his own bank, Chase, buy up the teetering investment firm Bear Stearns. You read that right: Jamie Dimon helped give himself a bailout. Who needs to worry about good government, when you are the government?

Dimon, incidentally, is another one of those bankers who’s complaining now about the unfair criticism. “Acting like everyone who’s been successful is bad and because you’re rich you’re bad, I don’t understand it,” he recently said, at an investor’s conference.

Hmm. Is Dimon right? Do people hate him just because he’s rich and successful? That really would be unfair. Maybe we should ask the people of Jefferson County, Alabama, what they think.

That particular locality is now in bankruptcy proceedings primarily because Dimon’s bank, Chase, used middlemen to bribe local officials – literally bribe, with cash and watches and new suits – to sign on to a series of onerous interest-rate swap deals that vastly expanded the county’s debt burden.

Essentially, Jamie Dimon handed Birmingham, Alabama a Chase credit card and then bribed its local officials to run up a gigantic balance, leaving future residents and those residents’ children with the bill. As a result, the citizens of Jefferson County will now be making payments to Chase until the end of time.

Do you think Jamie Dimon would have done that deal if he lived in Jefferson County? Put it this way: if he was trying to support two kids on $30,000 a year, and lived in a Birmingham neighborhood full of people in the same boat, would he sign off on a deal that jacked up everyone’s sewer bills 400% for the next thirty years?

Doubtful. But then again, people like Jamie Dimon aren’t really citizens of any country. They live in their own gated archipelago, and the rest of the world is a dumping ground.

Just look at how Chase behaved in Greece, for example.

Having seen how well interest-rate swaps worked for Jefferson County, Alabama, Chase “helped” Greece mask its debt problem for years by selling a similar series of swaps to the Greek government. The bank then turned around and worked with banks like Goldman, Sachs to create a thing called the iTraxx SovX Western Europe index, which allowed investors to bet against Greek debt.

In other words, Chase knowingly larded up the nation of Greece with a crippling future debt burden, then turned around and helped the world bet against Greek debt.

Does a citizen of Greece do that deal? Forget that: does a human being do that deal?

Operations like the Greek swap/short index maneuver were easy money for banks like Goldman and Chase – hell, it’s a no-lose play, like cutting a car’s brake lines and then betting on the driver to crash – but they helped create the monstrous European debt problem that this very minute is threatening to send the entire world economy into collapse, which would result in who knows what horrors. At minimum, millions might lose their jobs and benefits and homes. Millions more will be ruined financially.

But why should Chase and Goldman care what happens to those people? Do they have any skin in that game?

Of course not. We’re talking about banks that not only didn’t warn the citizens of Greece about their future debt disaster, they actively traded on that information, to make money for themselves.

People like Dimon, and Schwarzman, and John Paulson, and all of the rest of them who think the “imbeciles” on the streets are simply full of reasonless class anger, they don’t get it. Nobody hates them for being successful. And not that this needs repeating, but nobody even minds that they are rich.

What makes people furious is that they have stopped being citizens.

Most of us 99-percenters couldn’t even let our dogs leave a dump on the sidewalk without feeling ashamed before our neighbors. It's called having a conscience: even though there are plenty of things most of us could get away with doing, we just don’t do them, because, well, we live here. Most of us wouldn’t take a million dollars to swindle the local school system, or put our next door neighbors out on the street with a robosigned foreclosure, or steal the life’s savings of some old pensioner down the block by selling him a bunch of worthless securities.

But our Too-Big-To-Fail banks unhesitatingly take billions in bailout money and then turn right around and finance the export of jobs to new locations in China and India. They defraud the pension funds of state workers into buying billions of their crap mortgage assets. They take zero-interest loans from the state and then lend that same money back to us at interest. Or, like Chase, they bribe the politicians serving countries and states and cities and even school boards to take on crippling debt deals.

Nobody with real skin in the game, who had any kind of stake in our collective future, would do any of those things. Or, if a person did do those things, you’d at least expect him to have enough shame not to whine to a Bloomberg reporter when the rest of us complained about it.

But these people don’t have shame. What they have, in the place where most of us have shame, are extra sets of balls. Just listen to Cooperman, the former Goldman exec from that country club in Boca. According to Cooperman, the rich do contribute to society:

Capitalists “are not the scourge that they are too often made out to be” and the wealthy aren’t “a monolithic, selfish and unfeeling lot,” Cooperman wrote. They make products that “fill store shelves at Christmas…”

Unbelievable. Merry Christmas, bankers. And good luck getting that message out.

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Re: A Christmas Message From America's Rich

Postby 82_28 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:10 pm

Fuckin' bravo. And a nice bump.
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Re: A Christmas Message From America's Rich

Postby StarmanSkye » Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:54 am

^^^^
Ditto;

The one-percenter's typical response of befuddled indignation that they are being publicly shamed for being 'successful' goes right to the heart of what has driven the monstrous financial swindle that is undermining the economy of the US and Europe. That is, the perverted concept of 'success' these parasite conmen have convinced themselves is the measure of their earned entitlement, the very essence of America's myopic self-indulgence which is a consequence of the increasingly fragmented, disconnected & strictly utilitarian thinking that leads to wholehearted embrace of 'end justifies the means'. In this case, the 'end' here as 'success' defined by material prosperity, wealth, lavish spending & a lifestyle of the Rich & Famous with all the social status, power & influence, regard of peers and perks of position that one is greedy, egotistical and arrogant enough to surround oneself with and make use of -- is never questioned as being of great value and the fitting reward for having the wisdom, experience, ruthlessness, savvy, skill, daring, intelligence, opportunity, 'grease', protection, vision and networking 'connections' to pull-off.

These guys -- and they mostly ARE men in a semi-exclusive club of silver-spoonfed faux-nobility competing in a cutthroat 'business' -- have turned financial services into a marketable 'product' they feature and sell with all the polished aplomb and single-minded devotion that is the legacy of the most skillful snakeoil salesman having set-up shop on Wall Street and the City of London. The premise of 'winning' by all means necessary and above all by 'getting away with it' has eclipsed all other concerns, including what the overall consequence is to everone else (and the nation-at-large) for the selling of these 'products'.

That's a damn hard thing for most of us who aren't narcisistic sociopaths to wrap our heads around -- maybe in large part because of the reason acknowledged in the original article, ie. unlike the elite one-percenters with their gated communities and exclusive, secured-and-lavishly-serviced stratified-rarified-and-societized snob-culture milieu, we HAVE to live in the real, everyday world of ordinary people with less-than-ideal average jobs and everyday bills and normal living-expense debts like cars, housing, medical bills, clothing, food, shelter, school, meals-and-nights-out, babies and families, birthdays and gifts and hobbies and declining 'public' social services.

In OUR world, we usually can't afford to ignore let alone escape the consequences of our more-selfish, rotton and inconsiderate actions. And being more on-edge and against-it with the terms of our living, working and being, we are by-nature more attuned to the give-and-take rhythms of the natural world and the common civilities of dignity, respect and courtesy that together with the simple satisfactions of our accomplished labours, our hobbies and self-sufficient pastimes, our loyalties and decencies of relationships and family ties make our humdrum existence endurable -- as opposed to the insularity and aloofness of the one-percent gang of thieves and parasites who view society as a collection of chumps and rubes to be routinely fleeced & bamboozled as their higher-need requires.

One thing in the cited article esp. stands out tho -- and that is the bribes given to Georgia officials that resulted in the taxpayer assumption of enormous debt. HOW can any 'lawful' court uphold such a patently criminal obligation that should be invalidated on any number of points? It sounds so much like the IMF and World-Bank brokered 'loans' that were impressed on reluctant or strongarmed or bribed/blackmailed third-world officials that could NEVER provide the claimed net-plus value. As I understand it, the cornerstone of contract law is the reciprocity of reasonable expectation for value recieved by both parties in conformance with due diligence and full disclosure. In these cases, there WAS no expectation of value-added advantage since the terms were so fraudulently skewed in favor of corporate-crony contractors and the IMF/World Bank instituions -- the clear losers being the state' citizens who were saddled with vast debt they had no anticipation of or gave informed-consent agreement for. To my mind, so MUCH of the endemic fraud and corruption we see now in the US and Europe has its genesis in the practices unleashed on unwary third-world nations thru the 60s to early 90s or so, resulting in severe impoverishment and cutbacks in social spending and economic contraction -- much like we're seeing now in our own nation.

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Re: A Christmas Message From America's Rich

Postby 2012 Countdown » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:59 am

Thanks for the 'bump' and replies. I like Taibbi. He has a way.

here's a couple more, among a few going around-

Bankers, Billionaires "Going To Vomit" If They Keep Hearing This 1% "Crap"
By Christopher Robbins - Gothamist
December 20, 2011 12:20 PM

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It's easy to get caught up in the moment and forget about those who are hurting the most this holiday season: old, rich white men, who have suffered the slings of the 99% despite being responsible for all that is good in the world. Thankfully Bloomberg News was able to track down these noble creatures to find out what they think about the legions of Americans who believe in greater income equality. "Who gives a crap about some imbecile?" 82-year-old billionaire and co-founder of Home Depot, Bernard Marcus says. "Are you kidding me?"

Sure, the 1% may make 36 times more money than the median household, and most Americans support raising taxes on Americans who make more than $250,000. But look how many people don't owe any taxes at all!

Let Blackstone Group CEO Stephen Schwarzman, who once paid Patti Labelle and the Abyssinian Baptist Church choir to sing him a song about himself, explain the need for more sacrifice using the not-meanacing-at-all metaphor of bodily harm. "You have to have skin in the game. I'm not saying how much people should do. But we should all be part of the system." Except these companies that all made massive profits and didn't pay net income taxes. Their skin is sensitive and can't withstand all that exfoliation.

Home Depot's other co-founder, 76-year-old billionaire Ken Langone, loves cats and therefore doesn't mind being called one:

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http://gothamist.com/2011/12/20/billion ... f_they.php

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Josh Brown takes the JPM CEO to school:
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Dear Jamie Dimon,
I hope this note finds you well.

I am writing to profess my utter disbelief at how little you seem to understand the current mood of the nation. In a story at Bloomberg today, you and a handful of fellow banker and billionaire “job creators” were quoted as believing that the horrific sentiment directed toward you from virtually all corners of America had something to do with how much money you had. I’d like to take a moment to disabuse you of this foolishness.

America is different than almost every other place on earth in that its citizenry reveres the wealthy and we are raised to believe that we can all one day join the ranks of the rich. The lack of a caste system or visible rungs of society’s ladder is what separates our empire from so many fallen empires throughout history. In a nation bereft of royalty by virtue of its republican birth, the American people have done what any other resourceful people would do – we’ve created our own royalty and our royalty is the 1%. Not only do we not “hate the rich” as you and other em-bubbled plutocrats have postulated, in point of fact, we love them. We worship our rich to the point of obsession. The highest-rated television shows uniformly feature the unimaginably fabulous families of celebrities not to mention the housewives (real or otherwise) of the rich. We don’t care what color they are or what religion they practice or where in the country they live or what channel their show is on – if they’re rich, we are watching.

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Re: A Christmas Message From America's Rich

Postby Simulist » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:23 pm

Let them vomit.

And choke on it.
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Re: A Christmas Message From America's Rich

Postby 2012 Countdown » Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:59 pm



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Bankers have joined billionaires to fight back against attacks against the top one percent of income earners in America, including by forming something called 'The Job Creators Alliance'. The Young Turks host Cenk Uygur breaks it down.
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Re: A Christmas Message From America's Rich

Postby Nordic » Sat Dec 24, 2011 3:39 am

Why don't they just ignore us? They can pay somebody to do that, can't they?
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Re: A Christmas Message From America's Rich

Postby 2012 Countdown » Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:42 pm

The only take away from all this is the evidence that we are getting to them. If they aren't crying, we aren't effective. We are VERY effective.
The bank memos, this, laws attempting to be passed, the suppression, etc... force them to show who they are.
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Re: A Christmas Message From America's Rich

Postby Hammer of Los » Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:26 pm

...

Try this on for size;





Of course, I recently foreswore meat as an act of purification. It did wonders for my stomach chakra.

So, no long pig for me then!

I would never eat my friend Pigsy!



:angelwings:


ps I would never advocate violence or even hatred against any creature, nor even a rock. Panentheism is more or less (one of) my creeds. Which are held lightly, for I practise thoroughgoing agnosticism. Mostly.

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Re: A Christmas Message From America's Rich

Postby slomo » Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:57 pm

2012 Countdown wrote:The only take away from all this is the evidence that we are getting to them. If they aren't crying, we aren't effective. We are VERY effective.
The bank memos, this, laws attempting to be passed, the suppression, etc... force them to show who they are.

I think that's the take-home message. If the extremely wealthy know anything, it's how to ignore the masses (except as a resource to exploit). The fact that a few have them have lost their cool is telling.

However, it's important to distinguish between Wall-Street rich and trans-generationally old-world rich. Two different strata (see, e.g., Eyes Wide Shut), and potentially two very different games being played.
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Re: A Christmas Message From America's Rich

Postby Hammer of Los » Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:25 pm

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99 to 1? The odds aren't exactly stacked in their favour, though, are they?

My money's on the 99.

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Re: A Christmas Message From America's Rich

Postby slomo » Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:11 pm

Hammer of Los wrote:...

99 to 1? The odds aren't exactly stacked in their favour, though, are they?

My money's on the 99.

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Depends who controls the guns (and the people who use them).
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Re: A Christmas Message From America's Rich

Postby Simulist » Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:57 am

slomo wrote:
Hammer of Los wrote:...

99 to 1? The odds aren't exactly stacked in their favour, though, are they?

My money's on the 99.

...

Depends who controls the guns (and the people who use them).

Then we're in trouble. ;)
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Re: A Christmas Message From America's Rich

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcuDhShUWUo&t=86
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Re: A Christmas Message From America's Rich

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Merry Christmas or whatever it is you celebrate at this time of year.
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