Russian-Ukrainian War: Live Thread

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Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:09 am

^^ Spring has arrived in the northern hemisphere. Trees are budding, joggers are jogging, crocuses are out without permission, and toddlers are running wild, unscientifically. Pale trembling adults are rediscovering the 3-D world, a strange anarchic place where the sun provides energy without a subscription, life keeps on happening in defiance of expert advice, and only birds tweet. Sir Chris Whitty has personally observed numerous young couples kissing without masks.

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It'll be autumn before the Killer Dots "narrative" can be told and "believed" again. In the meantime, our experts have other dependable methods of crushing life in the interest of Public Health. War, hyperinflation and mass starvation are old favourites, and a resurgence of terrorist bombings would surely not go amiss. If Al Qaeda are unavailable, perhaps Extinction Rebellion can be persuaded to lend a hand.
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Re: Russian-Ukrainian War: Live Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:01 am

MacCruiskeen » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:09 am wrote:Image
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"and what the science is now telling us is clear. That children who are unmolested are up to three times more likely to develope severe disease than children who have been molested."
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Re: Russian-Ukrainian War: Live Thread

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Re: Russian-Ukrainian War: Live Thread

Postby semper occultus » Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:16 pm

Grizzly » 22 Mar 2022 00:09 wrote:https://stopgas.org/en/

3,599,040,600 € wired by Germany to Russia since the invasion of Ukraine


and an EU level one here :

https://beyond-coal.eu/russian-fossil-fuel-tracker/
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Re: Russian-Ukrainian War: Live Thread

Postby Grizzly » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:39 pm

^^^
ya...

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What does “respond in kind” mean regarding US slash NATO response to Russian chemical weapon attack in Ukraine?
They (MsM) states it surely does not mean a response with similar chemical weapons, but then what does it mean? Biological or nuclear response? Words mean things.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-e2-80-99s-use-of-chemical-weapons-in-ukraine-e2-80-98would-trigger-a-response-in-kind-e2-80-99-biden-says/ar-AAVsS2k

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Re: Russian-Ukrainian War: Live Thread

Postby Harvey » Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:15 pm

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Re: Russian-Ukrainian War: Live Thread

Postby semper occultus » Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:45 am

Ukraine’s Propaganda War: International PR Firms, DC Lobbyists and CIA Cutouts
Dan Cohen reveals the network of foreign strategists, Washington DC lobbyists, and intelligence-linked media outlets behind Ukraine’s public relations blitz


https://www.mintpressnews.com/ukraine-p ... ts/280012/

The campaign includes language guides, key messages, and hundreds of propaganda posters, some of which contain fascist imagery and even praise Neo-Nazi leaders.

Behind Ukraine’s public relations effort is an army of foreign political strategists, Washington DC lobbyists, and a network of intelligence-linked media outlets.

Ukraine’s propaganda strategy earned it praise from a NATO commander who told the Washington Post, “They are really excellent in stratcom — media, info ops, and also psy-ops.” The Post ultimately conceded that “Western officials say that while they cannot independently verify much of the information that Kyiv puts out about the evolving battlefield situation, including casualty figures for both sides, it nonetheless represents highly effective stratcom.”

Key to the propaganda effort is an international legion of public relations firms working directly with Ukraine’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs to wage information warfare.

According to the industry news site PRWeek, the initiative was launched by an anonymous figure who allegedly founded a Ukraine-based public relations firm.

“From the first hour of war, we decided to join the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to help them distribute the official sources to show the truth,” the nameless figure told PR Week. “This is a hybrid war: the mix of bloodily struggling fight with a huge disinformation and fake campaign lead by Russia [sic].”

According to the anonymous figure, more than 150 public relations firms have joined the propaganda blitz.

The international effort is spearheaded by public relations firm PR Network co-founder Nicky Regazzoni and Francis Ingham, a top public relations consultant with close ties to the UK’s government. Ingraham previously worked for Britain’s Conservative Party, sits on the UK Government Communication Service Strategy and Evaluation Council, is Chief Executive of the International Communications Consultancy Organisation, and leads the membership body for UK local government communicators, LG Comms.

“We’ve been privileged to help coordinate efforts to support the Ukrainian Government in the last few days, “ Ingham told PRovoke Media. “Agencies have offered up entire teams to support Kyiv in the communications war. Our support for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine is unwavering and will continue for as long as needed.”

With an anonymous Ukrainian figure joining two of the top public relations figures in the Kiev government’s propaganda blitz, Ukraine’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs distributed a dossier folder (archived) with materials instructing public relations agencies on “key messages,” approved language, content for debunked propaganda constructs, far-right and Neo-Nazi propaganda.

The folder is run by Yaroslav Turbil, described on his LinkedIn page as “Head of Ukraine.ua — Ukraine’s digital ecosystem for global communications. Strategic Communications & Country Brand Promotion.” Turbil has worked at multiple “civil society” organizations closely linked to the U.S. government and interned at Internews, a U.S. intelligence-linked organization that operates under the guise of promoting press freedom.

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Re: Russian-Ukrainian War: Live Thread

Postby Harvey » Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:52 pm

Some very interesting UK conflicts of interest highlighted in this video by Lowkey. I'm not remotely surprised but confess I had no idea just how many BBC and SKY News employees are simultaneously employed by NATO and also link back to Israeli interests and organisations.

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Scott Ritter's Version

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:39 pm

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Radically different from the Western reporting norm, obviously.

Plenty about the past that's true and debatable, but the strategic assessment is something that will out, either way, in another month or two. Just because he's got a perfect record so far... it did impress me that while up until a month ago we almost all were laughing about the Western propaganda promising an 'imminent' Russian invasion and sacking of Kiev, etc., he, viewing it from nearly the opposite side from them, was issuing guarantees that it was coming.


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Re: Russian-Ukrainian War: Live Thread

Postby alloneword » Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:39 pm

Some pretty disturbing stuff coming from Patrick Lancaster over the past few hours.

Here's one of the least disturbing:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1b-RKDHZOo
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Re: Russian-Ukrainian War: Live Thread

Postby Grizzly » Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:59 pm

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Re: Russian-Ukrainian War: Live Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:31 am

The Economist conducted a fawning interview with Zelenskyyy, allegedly in Kiev on 27 March. Both the interview transcript and the straightfaced snowjob accompanying it are behind a paywall, so I've posted archive copes of both in the data dump. (Fair Use, etc.)

viewtopic.php?f=33&t=42326

Here just one short quote:

An embargo on oil and gas has been discussed but so far not implemented by Europe, though America has ordered one. “The first thing is to put yourselves in our place and act pre-emptively…We are hearing that the decision depends on whether Russia launches a chemical attack on us. This is not the right approach. We are not guinea pigs.”


Ellipsis in the original. (Why? What did he say that they felt obliged to leave out?)
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Re: Russian-Ukrainian War: Live Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:00 pm

Yesterday, Germany's "Green-Social Democrat-Liberal" coalition government announced that it will supply 500 old Warsaw Pact tanks to Ukraine. (When the BRD ate the GDR in 1990 it acquired all of its military equipment, along with everything else.)

They should also send clingfilm, because those heroic Ukrainian freedom-fighters must be running short by now.

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Re: Russian-Ukrainian War: Live Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Apr 05, 2022 11:12 am

Best single short analysis I've seen of the Bucha massacre psyop (13 m):

https://odysee.com/why-ukraine's-bucha- ... 53632e22fb
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