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Confirmation that Sibel Edmonds knows of what she speaks

Postby isachar » Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:10 pm

Drugs, money-laundering, terrorism, quasi-state actors, involvement of foreign governments, complicity of elements of U.S. government and intelligence agencies. <br><br>Though not mentioned in this report another actor she has repeatedly pointed to is the American Turkish Council (ATC).<br><br>This just in. <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.institutionalinvestor.com/default.asp?page=1&SID=623318&ISS=21639&type=23">www.institutionalinvestor...39&type=23</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The particular geographic area to which they refer is a nest of international intrigue, lawlessnesss and a haven for ex-German nazis and emerging neo's<br>------------------------------------------------------------<br>Mystery N.Y. Bank Allegedly Funnels $3B In Funds To Terrorists<br>Source: InstitutionalInvestor.com<br><br>A bank identified only as being one of the largest and most prominent in New York has been caught allegedly funneling an estimated $3 billion in profits from drug deals and other illegal activities to Mideast terrorists, The New York Post reports. Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau, the paper says, plugged the profits pipeline as part of an ongoing investigation of suspected funds flowing through local banks. <br> <br>In the most recent scheme, according to The Post, the money originating from the so-called "tri-border region" of Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay, was transferred to an account at the New York bank through a money-transfer company in Uruguay and then on to accounts in the Mideast, where they were distributed over the past two years to the likes of Al-Qaeda, Hamas and Hezbollah. "I can't go out and arrest Osama bin Laden," the 84-year-old Morgenthau told The Post. "But I can try to cut off his money."<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=isachar>isachar</A> at: 4/4/06 10:18 am<br></i>
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Re: Confirmation that Sibel Edmonds knows of what she speaks

Postby Sarutama » Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:23 pm

Thanks for the link.<br><br>To me, the silencing of Sibel Edmonds is one of the most damning pieces of the 9/11 puzzle.<br><br>The more I learn the more I don't want to know. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Confirmation that Sibel Edmonds knows of what she speaks

Postby Qutb » Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:25 pm

Many thanks, Isachar. <p></p><i></i>
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Thanks. An amazing story

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:26 pm

that will fly below the radar of people who don't know what they're witnessing.<br><br>It was the Bank of America:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/66443.htm">www.nypost.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Thanks. An amazing story

Postby isachar » Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:46 pm

Rig, the old maxim of "follow the money" was suppressed by the 911 coverup. But, as in these matters, drugs, money, weapons (conventional or otherwise) are all fungible and tradeable securities in the ultimate game which is to achieve and win power for the purposes of aggragandizing further power.<br><br>Sibel and the FBI's suppression of pre-911 investigations (along with the fact that one of their paid agents in LA actually harbored the two 911 "hijackers" who were being actively sought at the time) are the smoking guns behind 911.<br><br>Of course, I've always thought the military aide's questioning of Cheney in the Sit Room Bunker is the most revealing:<br><br>"Sir, do the orders still stand?" "Sir, do the orders still stand?".<br><br>Asked as Cheney was being continuously updated almost by the minute as to the approach of Flight 77.<br><br>"Of course they still stand, have you heard anything different," Cheney replied curtly (may be a slight misquote, but that's my recollection.<br><br>Now, why would a military aide, at this most crucial of all moments be asking if a (presumed) order to shoot down the plane still stands, knowing that two planes just a few minutes earlier had already flown in the WTC's?"<br><br>Isn't it far more obvious that the aide was questioning why the order to NOT shoot down Flight 77 still stands?<br><br>Don't need no stinkin' NIST or 911 coverup commission to figure that one out.<br><br>And, if Cheney could get up to the minute reports as to the exact location and distance of Flight 77 on its final approach to the WH and ultimately the Pentagon from the WH, then why couldn't NORAD get this same info? Who was feeding Cheney the info on the location of Flight 77 and its time from impact at this crucial moment? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=isachar>isachar</A> at: 4/4/06 1:55 pm<br></i>
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Re: Thanks. An amazing story

Postby chiggerbit » Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:48 pm

Say, isn't that the area that Sun Myung Moon was annexing as his own little private kingdom? Yep, it is. From Where in the World Is Sun Yung Moon, highlights mine:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://iapprovethismessiah.com/2005/08/moon-clashes-with-paraguay.html">iapprovethismessiah.com/2...aguay.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>From a pay-only story in The Economist: <br><br>ONE day in 2000 the people of<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> Puerto Casado</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, a small town in Paraguay's inhospitable Chaco region, were shocked to learn that the ground had been sold under their feet—and that their new lord and master was the Rev Sun Myung Moon, the self-proclaimed messiah who leads the Unification cult, better known as the Moonies. Mr Moon's acolytes soothed locals' fears by promising all sorts of grand projects to make the town rich, from a meat-packing plant to an eco-tourism resort. … <br>Wire sources report that the Paraguayan government is seizing some of Moon's holdings after accusing the church of unchecked authority over the locals <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>and ties to the drug trade</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. Twice the size of Luxembourg, Moon's land sits next to the Guarani Aquifer, a huge fresh water reserve that South Americans are accusing the Bush Administration of trying to control. <br><br>Now this.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Map of Paraguay showing location of Puerto Casado:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/paraguay.pdf">www.un.org/Depts/Cartogra...raguay.pdf</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Thanks. An amazing story

Postby chiggerbit » Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:57 pm

Dang, Bank of America? Yikes. How reliable is the New York Post? Does Sung Myung Moon have any ties to the Bank of America, by any chance? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 4/4/06 11:00 am<br></i>
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Re: Thanks. An amazing story

Postby starroute » Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:23 pm

Moon does leap to mind -- but Khalil bin Laden (Osama's brother) also has ties to the tri-border region, and is more likely who this particular investigation has as its target. See, for example, <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.spitfirelist.com/f425.html">www.spitfirelist.com/f425.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Khalil, who has a Brazilian wife, had been appointed Brazil’s honorary consul in Jidda, though he also owns a sprawling 20-acre estate in Winter Garden, Florida, near Orlando. . . .<br><br>Khalil bin Laden, who boarded a plane in Orlando that eventually took him back to Saudi Arabia, won the attention of Brazilian investigators for possible terrorist connections. According to a Brazilian paper, he had business connections in the Brazilian province of Minas Gerais, not far from the tri-border region, an alleged center for training terrorists.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Thanks. An amazing story

Postby starroute » Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:52 pm

The article says: "In the most recent scheme, according to The Post, the money originating from the so-called "tri-border region" of Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay, was transferred to an account at the New York bank through a money-transfer company in Uruguay . . ."<br><br>Really, there's been so much shady stuff over the years involving both the tri-border area and money-laundering through Uruguay that it's hard to know where to start.<br><br>For example, there's this:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/ncrmay891113.html">www.mosquitonet.com/~prew...91113.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>P-2 was unmasked in 1981 during police investigations into the Mafia contacts and financial crimes of Italian banker Michele Sindona, who for many years was the chief influence in the Vatican Bank, thanks to his contacts with Paul VI and Prince Massimo Spada, a Vatican nobleman, top financial adviser to the Holy See, and a Knight of Malta. Numerous members of P-2 also turned out to be Knights of Malta, including several military and police intelligence chiefs and bankers.<br><br>The most sinister was Count Umberto Ortolani, SMOM's ambassador to Uruguay and the brains behind the P-2. Ortolani had extensive bank and real estate holdings in Uruguay and was at one time the head of Uruguay's second-largest private bank, Banco Financiero Sudamericano. He also established a P-2 branch in Montevideo, with about 500 members, including prominent military hard-liners. When the P-2 scandal broke, Ortolani fled to Sao Paulo, Brazil, whence the Italian police were unable to extradite him, because of Brazil's resistant extradition laws.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Or, getting back to Moon, there's this (from a long article which is well worth reading in full):<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://educate-yourself.org/cn/sunmyongmoon9part19aug98.shtml">educate-yourself.org/cn/s...ug98.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> Rev. Sun Myung Moon, who has invested heavily in media and politics in both North and South America, has built what appears to be a major money-laundering center in the secretive banking haven of Uruguay.<br><br>Moon, the founder of The Washington Times and a major conservative funder in the United States, allegedly has used religious followers to transport money clandestinely to Uruguay and deposit amounts adding up to the tens of millions of dollars, and possibly much more.<br><br>Uruguay's bank secrecy laws and Moon's political clout have spared his operations from significant legal action. But the money laundry has drawn periodic attention from government and other investigators in recent years.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Or this article -- which appeared a couple of years ago in the Moon-owned Washington Times, if you can believe it. (My guess would be that the Moonies are leaning hard on the organized crime and terrorism aspects in an attempt to divert attention from their own activities in the region. But with this stuff it's hard to tell exactly who's conning whom.):<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040525-044739-7197r.htm">washingtontimes.com/upi-b...-7197r.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Of 400 money-exchange houses in Paraguay's Ciudad del Este, only ten are legal. The image of Paraguay mirrors a current problem that, like terrorism, walks about without feet, faceless, disregarding borders, easily avoiding the constraints of international order and institutional legality. . . .<br><br>Paraguay's money laundering industry cleans illicit revenue generated by the drug trade, arms trafficking, smuggling, tax evasion and corruption. Since 1997 all Paraguayan citizens have to be able to prove the origin of their money if it exceeds $10,000. Authorities of the Bureau for Prevention of Money and Property Laundering, also known by its Spanish acronym SEPRELAD, recently reported the main types of financial organizations most deeply involved in money laundering. One of SEPRELAD's major is the connection between money laundering and terrorism, especially in the Triple Border region where Brazil, Argentina and Paraguay intersect. It is rumored that about $10 billion circulates annually through the Triple Border area without any type of control, a staggering amount. Prominent Paraguayan athletes, businessmen, retailers and moneychangers are all involved in "greatest laundromat in the world," to paraphrase lawmakers in the Brazilian National Congress. . . .<br><br> Other Latin American nations are slowly beginning to combat illicit money flows. Uruguay in 1998 defined money laundering as criminal activity in order to trace funds generated by the drug trade. Shortly afterwards, Montevideo broadened the law to cover other forms of corruption. In 2001 Uruguay passed legislation extend legal oversight to money generated from smuggling, terrorism, human trafficking and the trade in human organs.<br><br>Chile earlier in 1995 proscribed money laundering but the legislation initially only covered illicit funds generated by drug trafficking. New legislation broadens the list of prohibited revenue sources to include terrorism, arms trafficking, child prostitution, white slavery and pornography, as well as to related crimes.<br><br>Brazilian organized crime shunts a great amount of illicit money through the banks and legally licensed financiers. Financial investigations by Brazilian authorities determined that members of the Arab-Brazilian community flow up to $30 million dollars each day through money-exchanges or front companies, which operate as loan guarantors but are in reality mau houses. The true activity of these organizations is to launder illicit dollars into Brazilian reals, which, in their turn, return to neighboring countries as so-called clean money.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>And that's not even counting the somewhat vaguer stories I find in my files about old Nazis, reactionary Catholics, Cuban exiles, and Operation Condor all chugging around the area back in the 70's and 80's.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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struggling

Postby smithtalk » Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:01 am

i am struggling with the geography a bit here,<br><br>the town that moon supposedly took over appears to me to be on the other side of paraguay,<br>the UN map shows no large water resource near that town at all, does anyone have good info or maps of the places in question <p></p><i></i>
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Re: struggling

Postby chiggerbit » Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:41 am

More on banking:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-10137.html">www.country-data.com/cgi-...10137.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Moon in Paraguay

Postby robertdreed » Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:30 am

<br><br>Follow the links:<br><br> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.rickross.com/reference/unif/unif240.html">www.rickross.com/referenc...if240.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://narcosphere.narconews.com/story/2004/11/5/13314/9719">narcosphere.narconews.com...13314/9719</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.falkland-malvinas.com/Detalle.asp?NUM=6181">www.falkland-malvinas.com...p?NUM=6181</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>More on Moon- Paraguay entry at the bottom of the page<br><br> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com/">www.iapprovethismessiah.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Moon in Paraguay

Postby chiggerbit » Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:08 am

From rdr's link, to google, to this map of the aquifer, which doesn't look like it is under Moon's town, does it?<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.waterweb.org/wis3/presentations/30_Usunoff_paper.pdf">www.waterweb.org/wis3/pre..._paper.pdf</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Thanks. An amazing story

Postby isachar » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:30 pm

Excerpt from an interview with Sibel Edmonds (SE)<br><br>SE: The most significant information that we were receiving did not come from counter-terrorism investigations, and I want to emphasize this. It came from counter-intelligence, and certain criminal investigations, and issues that have to do with money laundering operations.<br><br>You get to a point where it gets very complex, where you have money laundering activities, drug related activities, and terrorist support activities converging at certain points and becoming one. In certain points - and they [the intelligence community] are separating those portions from just the terrorist activities. And, as I said, they are citing "foreign relations" which is not the case, because we are not talking about only governmental levels. And I keep underlining semi-legit organizations and following the money. When you do that the picture gets grim. It gets really ugly.<br><br><br>For entire interview, see:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml">baltimorechronicle.com/05...onds.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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