"A Question for 9-11 Conspiracy Buffs"

[NewKid]

Try not to strain too hard on this one. <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thomas-de-zengotita/a-question-for-911-consp_b_22862.html" target="top">www.huffingtonpost.com/thomas-de-zengotita/a-question-for-911-consp_b_22862.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Thomas De Zengotita at the Huffington Post asks:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>So here's my question: if these folks could arrange something as logistically complex as 9/11, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>couldn't they have arranged for us to "discover" some WMD in Iraq? That would have been child's play by comparison.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> If they had just done that little thing, their whole agenda would be on track today. Bush's numbers would have stayed up, support for the Iraq war would have held firm, and patriotic US citizens would be chomping at the bit for an attack on Iran.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I don't think it would take/took very many people to pre-wire the buildings with thermite or thermate and explosives during the elevator renovation project and then remote-control the planes during the NORAD excercises.<br><br>After the initial attacks and building demolitions the institutions cover up 'for National Security reasons and morale' just as they did after the murder of JFK.<br><br>WMD, on the other hand, is harder to place in any quantity with what is no doubt a very large surveillance system covering Iraq with a large anti-proliferation infrastructure designed to prevent and uncover any such large scale WMD resources. <br><br>So the difference is many are looking out for WMD while 9/11 was easy to pull off with a few and high technology which probably included using software to confuse and cover tracks.<br><br>This doesn't even go into the intended long-term militarization of our culture to 'get over' the hit-and-run short term wars like Gulf I so the PNAC's version of the New World Order could procede<br>with allies and staff in long term mode.<br><br>Nothing like getting caught in a leg trap to encourage you to just get used to where you are and re-embed the national identity as Christian Soldier into a couple more generations of youth for the long haul. <p></p><i></i>

[isachar]

The question is a diversion. It can be most effectively answered by asking another question - "why bother?" The non-existence of WMD's in Iraq hasn't made a bit of difference has it?<br><br>The admin may have actually believed their own propaganda and felt confident they'd find something. I thought as much myself in the days after the invasion that they'd probably find some stockpiled chemical weapons.<br><br>But the most likely answer is that most WMD's have a unique chemical or radiological signature (such as the anthrax used in the staged anthrax attacks in the weeks following 911 that was determined to have originated solely from U.S. stocks).<br><br>Perhaps the admin did attempt to plant some that could credibly be attributed to Iraq. There were some indications that this was being attempted. Some have speculated that the WH's outing of Valerie Plame was to strike back at her Brewster/Jenn'gs front that was involved in monitoring and tracking WMD and that may have thwarted such attempts. <p></p><i></i>

[smithtalk]

"The non-existence of WMD's in Iraq hasn't made a bit of difference has it?"<br><br>i totally disagree. <br>i think a small amount of effort to plant a few WMD in a couple of desert locations would have had an enormous cost/benefit reward. <br>i think many middle ground people across the world would have given america the benefit of the doubt through these long troubled and duplicitous years.<br>i was convinced in the opening days of the war that there were no weapons cos hans blix said so and i trusted him and still do,<br>and i was convinced that the special forces who'd been skulking around in those deserts had been up to exactly that, planting the weapons,<br>and frankly was stunned when no stories emerged 'proving' the weapons existence <p></p><i></i>

[steve vegas]

The huffingtonpost post begs the question:<br><br>Do the neo-cons really give a fuck what any of us usless eaters think?<br><br>Answer: Nope.<br><br>I'm not saying they did or didn't know/plan/execute the thing, I tend to think I will always be undecided on that one. It sure as hell looks like they knew all about it and let it happen. <br><br>My first thought when I saw the towers on TV was "Mossad" (I don't know that I still think that, it was more like a gut reaction) and I said as much to my then roommate, it of course took him and nearly everyone else I know about a year and half to catch up to the possibility that all wasn't as it seems.<br><br>disclaimer: As I've said before I'm not an anti-semite, not necessarily anti-Israel, and I'm generally sympathetic to the Palestinian cause (even if Dave Emory thinks that makes me a deluded left wing softy)<br><br>I think we all know that they wanted to do Iraq, way before the 2000 election. This guy's argument is flimflam masquerading as common sense. Also, I seem to remember them parading around some missle shells or something with minute traces of vX or some such lethal contraband, that sort of smelled like a test balloon to me, I think at that point it was too late though for them to pull off a real scam. <br><br>And<br><br>Let's not forget that some in the military actually adhere to a code of honor (twisted as it may seem from the oustide), I think there is every possiblity that these "some" could easily prevent a fake WMD operation. I'm thinking that the legitimate military would have to be involved as BUSHCO's Hessians can't do everything.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[steve vegas]

I of course meant to type <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>useless</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> eaters. <p></p><i></i>

[Sweejak]

The Russians said they would bust them if they tried. I don't have the links anymore but they are probably still out there. It's not a great answer to the question, but I think its worth a pause. <br>Remember too that the Anthrax was traced to US stocks. <p></p><i></i>

[stickdog99]

9/11 = 100% total control of media and evidence (at least short-term)<br>planted WMDs = not so simple to cover your tracks and erase any operational sloppiness post facto<br><br>9/11 = necessary to move a whole bunch of chess pieces<br>planted WMDs = helpful to justify the previous movement of one chess piece<br><br>9/11 = anybody with the power and access to blow the lid off would be taking a huge personal and familial risk with no assurances that the lid would even be loosened<br>planted WMDs = people who might not understand what they had to lose and who still believed in strange concepts like honesty and integrity might easily 1) get wind of the plan and 2) be able to contact the foreign press or other foreign agents and supply them with indisputable evidence <p></p><i></i>