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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby dbeach » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:21 pm

Ono<br>Hey pal..FWIW<br><br>US Miltary discharge isa DD-214 <br>Did this guy say DD13 or was that your error<br><br>IF he said he senta DD13 to AJ then he isa fraud BTW fraud by non Vets does occur and is a legal offense.<br><br>Hugh<br><br>AJ does not sound so "stinky "...<br><br>seems to me like he will be on this<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://prisonplanet.com/articles/september2006/250906blowswhistle.htm">prisonplanet.com/articles...histle.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>"An individual describing himself as a Sergeant stationed at MacDill AFB claims he witnessed unusual preparations for a potential airplane hitting the base on the morning of 9/11 and publicly questions the NORAD stand down and the demolition of the twin towers. Many have reacted to the claims by warning of a hoax designed to poison the well of the 9/11 truth movement.<br><br>In a letter that first appeared on the 9/11 Veterans For Truth Website, Sergeant Lauro "LJ" Chavez responds to a Cincinnati Post hit piece article by outlining his own doubts about the official version of 9/11 and his personal experiences of the strange prelude to the events of that morning.<br><br><br>A Google search failed to produce any reference to a Sergeant Lauro Chavez having been stationed at MacDill AFB. In addition, the letter was not posted on the Cincinnati Post website.<br><br>Chavez' perceived inability to prove his credentials has led many to question whether the letter is a hoax designed to poison the well of the 9/11 truth movement - or a simple prank.<br><br>The 9/11 Blogger website brimmed with forthright denouncements of the story as a hoax.<br><br>Citing contradictions between the 9/11 timeline and Chavez' statements, many argued that the letter was just cobbled together accusations culled from 9/11 Internet videos.<br><br>Others questioned the likelihood of a presumably still active duty young Sergeant risking his pension and livelihood for the sake of writing a letter to a newspaper.<br><br>"If this is true then this guy wouldn't blow the whistle by responding to an editorial for a newspaper. This guy would be breaking this news on all the 9/11 Truth websites and be doing interviews galore."<br><br>Another poster claims to know Chavez and describes him as "a bit of a prankster."<br><br>A poster later identifying himself as Chavez wrote "I didnt choose to come out and blow the whistle - it chose its own time," "I fear not death, but I do fear for my children growing up in this world."<br><br>Until Chavez can provide documents that prove his position and tenure at MacDill AFB, we have to reserve judgment. If such evidence is not forthcoming this story will be dismissed as a hoax.<br><br>Sergeant Chavez is welcome to provide me with that evidence by e mail and I will gladly write a follow up story. I'm sure I can speak for Alex Jones in inviting Chavez to appear on The Alex Jones Show to elaborate on his story if it is indeed genuine."<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby OnoI812 » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:27 pm

Jones said DD13<br><br>but sure enough it is a DD214<br><br>and it's right here:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/LChavez_214.pdf">www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/LChavez_214.pdf</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Great New Read From A Military Officer On Duty On 9/11

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:30 pm

I think something obvious has been overlooked here in this guy's statement.<br><br>If the 'exercises' he cites <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>were</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> classified, unless they have since been declassified he's violating national security just mentioning them..<br><br>Now whether he's willing to win a one-way ticket to Guantanamo to say these things or not I can't say.. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Me, Me, Me.....

Postby xsic bastardx » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:34 pm

<br> Everyone that is asking questions, why dont you write them yourself. Obviously if I got a reply, then you might also......the info is right there on the page....seems like all you hardcore snoops around here would have contacted at least a few people in your day. It's not that hard.<br><br><br> Et.....Has it crossed your mind that maybe this officer is bound by thier duty to defend the People and the Constitution of the United States?.......And by in speaking out they are in fact doing thier duty?...... <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=xsicbastardx>xsic bastardx</A> at: 9/25/06 11:36 am<br></i>
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On Alex Jones Show

Postby FranklinCase Admin » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:38 pm

Alex Jones in conducting an interview with Mr. Chavez starting right now.... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: You, you, you.....

Postby HMKGrey » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:40 pm

<br>I can smell BS so bad, I'm pretty close to losin gall feeling in my feet. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Me, Me, Me.....

Postby OnoI812 » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:41 pm

he's on air right now,,,<br><br>and that letter is completely misleading as it pertains to this guy's intellect. He's a much better speaker than writer. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=onoi812>OnoI812</A> at: 9/25/06 11:45 am<br></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby streeb » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:43 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>You need to watch that tape no where can you see a plane strike the Pentagon<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Why is this clown getting so much attention here? This isn't even particulary good disinfo. <br><br>I've been under the assumption that those video frames of "nothing" hitting the Pentagon were released in order to fuck with us, and here comes Lauro Chavez, right on schedule, with a 'letter to the editor', written after five years of silence in the breathless style of bad airport fiction, pimping the 'no-plane' crap with an explicit reference to the Pentagon video. <br><br>I think it deserves a pretty swift dismissal, myself. It's a waste of time. <br><br>The real smoking gun would be a video of some guy at the Pentagon giggling while he writes this garbage. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:59 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Et.....Has it crossed your mind that maybe this officer is bound by thier duty to defend the People and the Constitution of the United States?.......And by in speaking out they are in fact doing thier duty?......<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Of course it has, but as others have said before me, individuals like this are an exclusive bunch that are pretty tight-lipped, especially about things that will have an effect on their careers/pensions, or has not decades of the same problems hindering UFO research taught nothing?<br><br>I would imagine if someone inside were going to go out on a serious limb, it would be for something a little more bullet-proof.<br><br>Et's highly unprofessional and insignificant conclusions:<br><br>Disinfo. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Shut down the Questions!

Postby greencrow0 » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:00 pm

"This is an easily discerned hoax meant to discredit all the cited 9/11 info by presenting it in a bogus package and produce comments exactly like greencrow0's above who wrote:<br><br>Quote:<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>I'm not sure what Chavez says is true or not."<br><br>===================<br><br>The 'Left but Cautious' types are all in an uproar this morning, why?<br><br>Just because some more questions are being asked and some more info being put into the mix of millions of pieces of post 9/11 info?<br><br>Put it all into perspective.....<br><br>and quit trying to shut down the input....<br><br>Let it all come and then assess where it belongs in the scheme of things<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=greencrow0>greencrow0</A> at: 9/25/06 12:01 pm<br></i>
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Re: Shut down the Questions!

Postby streeb » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:04 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Let it all come and then assess where it belongs in the scheme of things<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Done. Assessed. It's disinfo. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby dugoboy » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:07 pm

yea i was just about to tell you guys he'll be on infowars today i just noticed. this could be pretty interesting. i didn't think alex jones would fall for something like this... if its just a disinfo job meant to discredit everything 911 truth with keyword connecting...and what if alex just falls for this guy and willlingly embraces everything he has to say? <br><br>well it makes you wonder if alex jones isn't really just a plant and that he was put in place by intelligence agencies to build the '911 truth movement' up and then with a blunderous interview like this with a very questionable 'whistleblower' he crashes and kills the movement in one fell swoop weeks before the '06 election?<br><br>we shall see. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BushCo aren't incompetent...they are Complicit!" -Me<br><br>"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell<br><br>"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it - always." -Mahatma Gandhi</p><i></i>
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Re: Shut down the Questions!

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:08 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>US Miltary discharge isa DD-214<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Correct.<br><br>xsic, since you singled me out, I feel compelled to warn(everyone in general, myself included) against the perils of wanting to believe something to a point that it obscures good judgement. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby dugoboy » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:11 pm

um i cant access the radio link on alex's website...can you guys? all i get is a 'service unavailable' message.<br><br>edit: nevermind, i got it to work. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BushCo aren't incompetent...they are Complicit!" -Me<br><br>"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell<br><br>"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it - always." -Mahatma Gandhi</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.geocities.com/orcthrasher/files/images/Qn38113.gif" BORDER=0> at: 9/25/06 12:19 pm<br></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby dbeach » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:16 pm

"Jones said DD13<br><br>but sure enough it is a DD214"<br><br>THANX ONO<br><br>AJ don't know its a DD-214 nor do most civilians.<br><br>I still think this is a put-on<br><br>Former MI's are very quiet..very<br><br>AJ won't endorse this dude no way..<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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