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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby dugoboy » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:20 pm

this guy is 29 years old just so you guys know. on this military discharge invoice it says his birthday is 9/29/76. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BushCo aren't incompetent...they are Complicit!" -Me<br><br>"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell<br><br>"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it - always." -Mahatma Gandhi</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.geocities.com/orcthrasher/files/images/Qn38113.gif" BORDER=0> at: 9/25/06 12:23 pm<br></i>
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Alex Jones claims to have received verified credentials

Postby darkbeforedawn » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:23 pm

UPDATE: Sergeant Chavez has now provided us with evidence of his credentials - the pdf can be viewed here.<br><br>this was on his site today... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Alex Jones claims to have received verified credentials

Postby dugoboy » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:29 pm

i suggest everyone read the pdf.<br><br>here: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/LChavez_214.pdf">www.infowars.com/articles...ez_214.pdf</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>right click the link and click save target as.<br><br> <p>___________________________________________<br>"BushCo aren't incompetent...they are Complicit!" -Me<br><br>"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell<br><br>"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it - always." -Mahatma Gandhi</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.geocities.com/orcthrasher/files/images/Qn38113.gif" BORDER=0> at: 9/25/06 12:42 pm<br></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby OnoI812 » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:30 pm

a few things.<br><br>//Former MI's are very quiet..very<br><br>AJ won't endorse this dude no way..//<br><br>He's just a sargeant<br><br>AJ gave standard disclaimer before the interview started.<br><br>and as for the timing...Jones said the letter's been out for month's <br>but gained attention just recently. He said despite knowing from day one he had to wait until he felt there would be enough people receptive.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:31 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>this guy is 29 years old just so you guys know. on this military discharge invoice it says his birthday is 9/29/76.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"From 1995 till 2002 I was a Sergeant in<br>the United States Army."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>A Sergeant at an extremely important Military installation at the age of 19..<br><br>Where's the 'Rigor' in this thread? <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=etinarcadiaego@rigorousintuition>et in Arcadia ego</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.sickle666.com/images/Arcadia.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 9/25/06 12:32 pm<br></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby OnoI812 » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:41 pm

"A Sergeant at an extremely important Military installation"<br><br><br>that's not what he said, he said sergeant in the US Army, that doesn't mean always stationed at an "important" installation <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby dugoboy » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:57 pm

ok, i just now read the letter in full. it actually isnt that bad.<br><br>he had been at that 'important installation' like 2 years et, i'm not quite sure. he was like 24 when he was at the installation, then he went to afghanistan for 8 months in special forces i believe he says and then he left. <br><br>like we pointed out earlier he was kind of half wrong about cheney running norad. now the reason chavez has all that stuff about domin-8 there:<br><br>Lauro "LJ" Chavez<br>Director of Information Security<br>Domin-8 Enterprise Solutions<br>513-492-5831<br>lchavez@domin-8.com<br>www.domin-8.com<br><br>is because this is where he works. if you read his army discharge papers you see he basically did computer systems work. he now works at Domin-8 Enterprise Solutions as the Director of Information Security. i don't think he told us everything about what he did in the army in that letter but it does look like he got a career because of it or something to that effect.<br><br>notice the number he has to contact him at Domin-8 is a 513 area code? i just now looked it up and its the area code for cincinnati ohio. <br><br>its starting to check out..<br> <p>___________________________________________<br>"BushCo aren't incompetent...they are Complicit!" -Me<br><br>"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell<br><br>"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it - always." -Mahatma Gandhi</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.geocities.com/orcthrasher/files/images/Qn38113.gif" BORDER=0> at: 9/25/06 1:09 pm<br></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby streeb » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:09 pm

He's a 'no-plane' guy who takes his story where? To Alex Jones. Come on.<br><br>I think Jones - whether he's sincere or not - is where shit goes to be <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>contained</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. If I wanted to mess with the heads of a large section of the conspiracy community (for lack of a better term), Jones would be my first stop. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=streeb>streeb</A> at: 9/25/06 1:11 pm<br></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby dugoboy » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:18 pm

hmm i dunno, heres what he actually said in the letter about the pentagon, i included the text above and below it for context:<br>------------------<br>We all knew then we all realized that this was not some group of<br>unorganized cave dwellers from Afghanistan orchestrating a perfect hit<br>on American soil. It was impossible. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Shortly after the Pentagon was<br>struck I called my close friend that I went to Basic Training with.<br>All civilian lines were down and I had to contact him via STU which is<br>a black line classified phone system. He did not answer, but one of<br>his soldiers did. I asked if SGT Worthington was ok and he said yes. I<br>asked if the plane did severe damage and he told me I didnt see any<br>plane. Then when I finally got to speak to my friend, he started<br>acting strange saying he could not talk about the incident over this<br>line. He was shipped off overseas a few weeks later and I never to<br>this day have had the chance to speak with him.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The Pentagon crash tape was released a few months back after 5 years.<br>You need to watch that tape no where can you see a plane strike the<br>Pentagon. This is because it was not a plane. I cannot tell you<br>exactly what hit the Pentagon, but its unanimous; it was definitely<br>not a plane. I can assure you that there is more than one CCTV camera<br>around the Pentagon.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> On September 25, 4 days before my 25th birthday,<br>I deployed to Afghanistan. Over the 8months I was there I had never<br>seen one intelligent Afghani soldier. They were all tattered and<br>scrawny and could barely shoot their weapons straight. This does not<br>mean that there were not men that could fly a plane, but after what I<br>saw it was extremely hard to believe they could be taught to fly a<br>sophisticated piece of aeronautical equipment.<br><br>My point Mr. Editor is that I spent 8 months in combat watching my<br>brothers die in the name of Freedom. I killed, in the name of Freedom<br>and to this day my brothers are still being killed for this<br>illusionary war we call the War on Terror. Where the enemy has no face<br>where there is no clear objective.<!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline"> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>In this War, anyone with ill<br>thoughts toward this country can be defined as a terrorist. Well, I<br>guess that includes me in this group as well as everyone else who<br>questions the events of 911, because we all hold ill thoughts toward<br>the leadership of this country and I say the real terrorists in this<br>world sit right in the heart of its capital.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--><br>-----------------<br><br>now i don't know if i like the part he said in the part i underlined with italics. its the kind of language that could be misinterpreted.<br><br>oh and by the way i found out the article he sent this letter in response to was published on like august 6th, 2006. so its nearing 2 months ago. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BushCo aren't incompetent...they are Complicit!" -Me<br><br>"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell<br><br>"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it - always." -Mahatma Gandhi</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.geocities.com/orcthrasher/files/images/Qn38113.gif" BORDER=0> at: 9/25/06 1:31 pm<br></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:28 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>now i don't if i like the part he said in italics. its the kind of language that could be misinterpreted to suggest a group of people believe this.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Kinda reads like a warning, eh?<br><br>The only thing a kid at MacDill AFB is going to be doing is fetching coffee.<br><br>*shrugs* <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=etinarcadiaego@rigorousintuition>et in Arcadia ego</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.sickle666.com/images/Arcadia.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 9/25/06 1:30 pm<br></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby dugoboy » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:34 pm

yeah et, i don't really hold ill thoughts for the leadership of the country. i wish they were removed from office and put in jail for what they've done but that is a far cry from wishing them ill things. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BushCo aren't incompetent...they are Complicit!" -Me<br><br>"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell<br><br>"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it - always." -Mahatma Gandhi</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.geocities.com/orcthrasher/files/images/Qn38113.gif" BORDER=0> at: 9/25/06 1:35 pm<br></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby streeb » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:35 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>ver the 8months I was there I had never seen one intelligent Afghani soldier. They were all tattered and scrawny and could barely shoot their weapons straight. This does not mean that there were not men that could fly a plane, but after what I saw it was extremely hard to believe they could be taught to fly a sophisticated piece of aeronautical equipment.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>And where do we even start with this statement? Just in case the no plane thing ain't enough, here's another red herring with a nice ambiguous shade of racism designed to bite everybody in the ass later down the line. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby dugoboy » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:37 pm

very true streeb..hm..<br><br>now that i think about it, what does it matter if his job and location checks out? he's still saying <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>certain</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> things.<br><br>edit: one more thing it is also true he included himself in the group but thats not saying much. as long as someone's willing to take the fall and gets the job done, (maybe in chavez 'they' found the perfect willing accomplice who will at a later date be reeimbursed for his highly stately beneficial troubles?) they're happy. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BushCo aren't incompetent...they are Complicit!" -Me<br><br>"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell<br><br>"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it - always." -Mahatma Gandhi</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.geocities.com/orcthrasher/files/images/Qn38113.gif" BORDER=0> at: 9/25/06 1:46 pm<br></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:52 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>we all hold ill thoughts toward the leadership of this country<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>This is COINTELPRO-style provocation afaic, tailor-made to justify a response to a percieved growing domestic 'threat'. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Re: Here you guys go...the HOAX is right there. READ.

Postby dugoboy » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:58 pm

and alex is in the process of swallowing the pill. i hope not. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BushCo aren't incompetent...they are Complicit!" -Me<br><br>"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell<br><br>"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it - always." -Mahatma Gandhi</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.geocities.com/orcthrasher/files/images/Qn38113.gif" BORDER=0> at: 9/25/06 2:10 pm<br></i>
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