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Re: on distractions and psyops messaging

Postby Dreams End » Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:15 pm

The Frank stuff rings true, unfortunately, as he was caught with a "roommate" running a male prostitute ring out of his house. <br><br>The Bonacci legal victory was pro forma. The judge didn't have to believe everything he said, just that there was some merit to the case. Since King didn't show, Bonacci won.<br><br>If I could find the testimony you'll see the interesting fact that for at least a portion, a Bonacci "alter" is allegedly testifying.<br><br><br>It goes something like:<br><br>DeCamp: This isn't Paul speaking now, is it?<br><br>Bonacci: No (and gives alter name.)<br><br>some wise person emailed me wondering if there's a bit of Catholic coverup going on...by pointing out certain folks, Boystown does kinda get forgotten. And William Colby was Opus Dei, it turns out. If that emailer wants to toss that in I think it's worth looking at...<br><br>the story is breaking, so Larouche (whom Daniel Brandt of namebase has actually speculated might be an agent of the Vatican) gets involved, it's to redirect attention. <br><br>Worth a think. <p></p><i></i>
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FREEZE branding? Re: on distractions and psyops messaging

Postby dqueue » Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:22 pm

What if they're freeze brands depicted? At least for cattle, it's a much less traumatic event. A search for <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22freeze+branding%22&btnG=Google+Search">freeze branding</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> returns a lot of <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.bmezine.com/scar/scar-faq.html">hits</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: on distractions and psyops messaging

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:24 pm

I'm not saying the Frank thing isn't true, exactly, just....what was it about Frank that tripped Bonnaci's, or DeCamp's, trigger? Something left unmentioned? <br><br>I guess we need a separate thread for the Franklin/Boys Town stuff, let this thread stay on the pictures and Noreen and Gunderson and whoever. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 9/2/06 1:29 pm<br></i>
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Re: on distractions and psyops messaging

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:39 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>What if they're freeze brands depicted? At least for cattle, it's a much less traumatic event.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Interesting, but I can't comment on this procedure as I've never seen it achieved on human skin. Freeze branding isn't employed by anyone I've known, but that doesn't mean it hasn't been tried before by any means. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Re: on distractions and psyops messaging

Postby Attack Ships on Fire » Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:43 pm

Had an enjoyable evening last night, got home late, logged on to my favorite conspiracy laden blog/message forum and saw this thread. And there upon my good feeling came to an end.<br><br>Aside from my initial wave of horror followed by anger at the creatures responsible for such a crime, now that I've thought some more about this story a thought comes to my paranoid mind:<br><br>Why didn't we hear about this startling new development in the case of Johnny Gosch last Monday morning and instead it gets reported late Friday evening just before a three-day long weekend?<br><br>Think hard about that for a moment and follow me down this rabbit hole.<br><br>Sunday August 27: the photo of Johnny and the two other boys shows up on the doorstep of Johnny's mom. It takes nearly a week for this story to break into the mainstream media, and when it does, CNN's story is timestamped 10:13 p.m. EDT, September 1, 2006. 10:13 <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>at night, the Friday before the Labor Day long weekend.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Why wasn't this story huge by the time we got to the end of the week? Don't tell me it's because the Gosch website is low on the media's radar; this is a huge story, the ultimate nightmare for every parent across America. Consider the case last month of a drunk and disorderly Mel Gibson: he gets arrested, that news breaks on the mainstream channels, but a C-grade entertainment website breaks the real story about Mel's tirade against the so-called Jewish conspiracy. Goddamn it people, Entertainment Tonight had pounced on the Mel/Jews angle by the following <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Wednesday</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, but the Gosch story is low priority for news magazines, newspapers, TV networks and so on? I know Oprah is on her summer vacation but come on!<br><br>A mother loses her son to a kidnapping. 27 years later a photo showing her son and two other unknown boys, bound and gagged, is dropped off on her front doorstep...<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>and this isn't splashed across the whole goddamn news media???</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> Oh, but Pluto isn't a planet, dontcha know?<br><br>Again, because it bears worth repeating: CNN's story timestamp: 10:13 p.m. EDT, September 1, 2006. Three days until the start of the workweek and water cooler talk resumes. Three days until the girls of The View get back together to swap tales of the last weekend they can be seen wearing white. I checked this morning on CNN's main page to see the Gosch story and it's already disappeared from the main page listing of stories. It's nowhere on FOX's main news page. It's also not listed on the Drudge Report but, get this you'll <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>love</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> this, Drudge lists a story about the horrible living conditions that the Austrian girl lived in while being used as a sex slave...<br><br>But the photo of a missing boy and two other who-the-hell-are-they kids, kidnapped, tied up, taken 27 years ago in the past...no, that's not considered newsworthy enough.<br><br>Goddammit to high heaven, it's enough to make me believe in the mother of all conspiracy theories.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: on distractions and psyops messaging

Postby Project Willow » Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:54 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>There's zero chance a hardcopy book is going to necessarily get more respect than a website just because of its format. Not regarding this subject matter. I'm just looking at it as a publishing issue in this context.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Avalon, that was not my main point, but my experience doesn't agree with yours. I've seen the effect when the public is newly introduced to my own history. If they encounter the material in a published book, it gets a little more respect. <br><br>Excuse me, but for some reason when I've been posting on this topic I feel very grumpy. It must be the photos. Suddenly the story is more real for people. Well, it's always been real. The power of visual imagery is both frustrating and instructive. I can't say that I too haven't been affected similarly. It's absolutely heart wrenching, yet validating seeing them. I would love to get a batch of photos myself for a birthday present. Films too, I know they exist. <p></p><i></i>
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Here's the Barney Frank prostitution article

Postby Fearless » Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:04 pm

TV Movie Led to Prostitute's Disclosures<br> <br>'Mayflower Madam' Gave Gobie Idea <br><br>By Bill Dedman <br>Washington Post Staff Writer <br>August 27, 1989 <br><br>Prostitute and pimp Stephen L. Gobie settled in with his "girls" in his Georgetown town house one evening in late 1987 to watch "The Mayflower Madam" on television. As Candice Bergen portrayed upscale madam Sydney Biddle Barrows, Gobie's companions had an idea. <br><br>"The girls turned to me and said, 'You're just like her,' " Gobie recalled in an interview yesterday. "That's when I realized that I was in the middle of a developing story that could be worth something someday. I told them, 'One day, don't be surprised if you see me on TV.' " <br><br>Gobie's dream has come true. His accusation that Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) knew that Gobie had operated a prostitution service out of Frank's Capitol Hill apartment became national news after it was first reported Friday by the Washington Times. <br><br>Frank, one of two openly gay members of Congress, confirmed Friday that he paid Gobie for sex, hired him with personal funds as an aide and wrote letters on congressional stationery on his behalf to Virginia probation officials, but Frank said he fired Gobie when he learned that clients were visiting the apartment. <br><br>Frank, a leading House liberal, likened himself to Henry Higgins, who in "Pygmalion" tries to transform a cockney waif into a member of English society. Gobie dismissed that as "garbage." "This is not the case of the poor waif who is being sheltered," Gobie said. "This was the first time he felt good in a relationship. Here's a guy who didn't have a social life until he was 45." <br><br>Gobie's craving for public attention also has produced an uproar in Montgomery County. Gobie said he maintained a relationship with Gabriel A. Massaro, the principal of Chevy Chase Elementary School, and used an office at the school in late 1987 to make telephone calls and have one client meet a prostitute. <br><br>Massaro, who has been placed on administrative leave, has been unavailable for comment. <br><br>Gobie said his motive was largely financial. Gobie had offered his story to WUSA-TV (Channel 9), then the Washington Times. Later he came to The Washington Post, saying he was looking "to start a bidding war" for "a better offer" than the Washington Times made. He and the Times say he was not paid. <br><br>Gobie also said he wants "to show up people in positions of power who abuse other people." <br><br>Gobie expressed no regret for any damage done to the careers of Frank and Massaro. <br><br>Although Frank and Gobie differ in some details of their relationship, they agree on the story line. They met on April Fool's Day 1985. The representative answered a classified ad in the Washington Blade, the local gay weekly. "Exceptionally good-looking, personable, muscular athlete is available. Hot bottom plus large endowment equals a good time." <br><br>Then in his third term, the 45-year-old representative had not yet stated his homosexuality publicly. He paid Gobie $80 in cash for sex. <br><br>Gobie, then 28, was one of many young men "freelancing" in male prostitution. Gobie said he was born in Boston and grew up in a military family. He has felony convictions for possession of cocaine, oral sodomy and production of obscene items involving a juvenile. <br><br>Gobie and Frank say they became more friends than sexual partners. Gobie says he attended a bill-signing at the White House, and helped coach and played left field for Frank's team in the Congressional Softball League. "I was the star player," Gobie said. <br><br>Frank began to help Gobie financially, paying his attorney and court-ordered psychiatrist. The House member also said he hired Gobie as a personal aide, housekeeper and driver, but Gobie said that was a "cover story" concocted for probation officers. <br><br>In late 1985, Gobie says, he began to use Frank's apartment and two other locations for prostitution. Frank knew about the prostitution all along, but it was never explicitly discussed, Gobie says. <br><br>"He knew exactly what I was doing," Gobie said. "It was pretty obvious. If he had to come home early {from work}, he would call home to be sure the coast was clear . . . . He was living vicariously through me. He said it was kind of a thrill, and if he had been 20 years younger he might be doing the same thing." <br><br>Frank denies that he knew, saying he learned from his landlord and kicked Gobie out in August 1987. Gobie supports this part of Frank's story. <br><br>Gobie said his disclosures are only beginning. "I think I'll just slap a book together. Sydney Biddle Barrows made in excess of a million. I thought 'Capitol Offenses' would be a nice title." <br><br>© 1996 The Washington Post Co.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/tours/scandal/gobie2.htm" target="top">Link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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pictures?

Postby anotherdrew » Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:18 pm

Are these for sure pictures? Could they actually be stills from a 8mm or super8 film? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: pictures?

Postby sunny » Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:04 pm

In which good old <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_child_sex_coverup/article_archive.htm#article19" target="top">VoxFux</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> offers a virtual cornucopia of newspaper articles on Child Prostitution involving high officials. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: pictures?

Postby FourthBase » Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:49 am

The latest newsite to carry the AP story:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.gulfnews.com/world/U.S.A/10064688.html">www.gulfnews.com/world/U....64688.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: pictures?

Postby Dreams End » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:03 am

I got a pm from a poster here that makes me more enthusiastic about Trine Day's project. Maybe more info will be forthcoming but first, Kris said the money is for further research...not for publishing which makes more sense....<br><br>the PM message I got said he knew of some specifics of the research and it sounded very solid. Not to be mysterious but for whatever reason the person who PM'ed me chose not to put it in this thread so I won't give the details. So, provisional apologies to TD for now. (They always seem to post in comments but maybe they read this forum.)<br><br>While I'm here, couple things about the pics. First, look at how they are tied. exactly the same in both....in other words, whoever did this seems to be used to doing it. Very systematic and...hate to use the word, but professional. <br><br>I can't make out the brand well, to me it looks like [X]. (including the brackets or maybe just straight lines.) Doesn't look like a brand as EIAE pointed out. <br><br>Also, how many white 12 year old males are abducted each year...how freaking hard can it be to identify the other two? <br><br>I should point out that the FBI was not mandated to keep stats on disappeared kids till around 1990. Surprise surprise, recent investigations show they still do a crap job and many many cases don't get reported.<br><br>Finally, there's a guy posting on the comments named Son of Gaia who is posting ridiculous stuff. In case he's reading here, let me count the ways you are a fool.<br><br>1. You suggest that Bonacci is guilty of the Gosch kidnapping. Your evidence is his own confession. Fair enough...would that be the SAME confession (actually, court testimony) in which he talked about being FORCED into all this? Leave that part out for some reason?<br><br>2. You also now must explain how the three teens abducted at least three kids and kept them hidden at least until a change of clothes was needed for Bonacci. Doubt they would have bothered finding exact fitting clothes for keeping them for 48 hours.<br><br>3. Also wondering how Bonacci learned to sabotage planes, as in the case of Gary Caradori, flying with a briefcase full of incriminating pics. Plane crashes, but the briefcase goes missing. I don't suppose there's an airforce base near there...say, one that the kids said they were sometimes taken too?<br><br>4. Noreen says she saw her son in 97. Either she's lying (why?), or else it really happened, or else it was an attempt to fool her. You think Bonacci was behind that? If not..then who?<br><br>5. And, of course, the pics themselves. Why were they released now? And on Noreen's birthday? They are either a whistleblowing attempt (Bonacci on himself?) or else a warning. Neither is consistent with your "theory" of the case.<br><br>We know Bonacci says he was involved in the Gosch kidnapping. I'm not completely sure that part of his story is true, though it's quite possible. Bonacci got "handled" by DeCamp, who was a pal of former CIA chief Colby and this always makes me nervous. <br><br>Let us not forget Alisha Owen...willing to spend years and years in prison rather than recant her story. I sincerely hope she was first on the list of Trine Day interviews. <br><br>Really, the only thing I think will open this case to media attention will be the discovery of bodies or clear photos that show enough to see a bit of the larger picture. I don't think testimony of any of the kids who've escaped will be taken seriously without such corroboration and maybe the pics are a way to lay the groundwork on that. <br><br>By the way, in 3 days it is the 25th anniversary of Gosch's abduction, if I'm not mistaken in memory or math. Somewhere out there, if he's alive, is a man about my age who certainly knows the truth.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: pictures?

Postby Dreams End » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:18 am

Did a search at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children website. Unfortunately, after doing a search under the criteria of:<br><br>missing between September of 80 and 82, male, current age of 35 to 40,the system went down. I still have the page with six names...strangely, Gosch isn't there...each of the others has an age progressed pic so that would have been VERY interesting. If the system comes back up, I'll keep looking...not sure why gosch isn't in this database.<br><br>The first one I got I was able to click on. A redhead kidnapped in February of 81 while on a paper route in Phoenix. Name of Bryan Bleyl. I can now no longer access the pic of him and all I'm looking at for now is a thumbnail of his age progressed photo.<br><br>Here's the full list but I am unable to access more info for now:<br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>        <br>BRIAN R. BLEYL<br>Missing Since: 2/28/81<br>Age Now: 37<br>Missing from:<br>PHOENIX, AZ<br>                View Poster <br>National Center for Missing & Exploited Children<br>        <br>JON DABKOWSKI<br>Missing Since: 1/14/82<br>Age Now: 35<br>Missing from:<br>TARENTUM, PA<br>                View Poster <br>National Center for Missing & Exploited Children<br>        <br>BARRY JAMES KEPHART<br>Missing Since: 8/22/81<br>Age Now: 36<br>Missing from:<br>ALBUQUERQUE, NM<br>                View Poster <br>National Center for Missing & Exploited Children<br>        <br>TAJ NARBONNE<br>Missing Since: 3/31/81<br>Age Now: 35<br>Missing from:<br>LEOMINSTER, MA<br>                View Poster <br>National Center for Missing & Exploited Children<br>        <br>REAGAN UDEN<br>Missing Since: 9/12/80<br>Age Now: 36<br>Missing from:<br>LANDER, WY<br>                View Poster <br>National Center for Missing & Exploited Children<br>        <br>RICHARD UDEN<br>Missing Since: 9/12/80<br>Age Now: 37<br>Missing from:<br>LANDER, WY<br>                View Poster <br>National Center for Missing & Exploited Children<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Try your own searches if the system comes back up and compare pics to the one in this thread. Insanely easy to do...I sure hope someone is doing it.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.missingkids.com/">www.missingkids.com/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: pictures?

Postby chiggerbit » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:22 am

There is another possibility, and that is that the kids were all runaways, with accomplices, and the pictures were staged. I think this is unlikely, but it is a consideration. It would have probably involved older teens, or parents with poor boundaries. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: pictures?

Postby HMKGrey » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:22 am

Son of Gaia is obviously a very poor disinfo. piece of shit. <br><br>I suggest we ignore him/her. <br><br>Meanwhile, I'm no big fan of Madsen's wild theories and we've argued about it here before but IF BushCo are as insane as they appear to be and IF GW is insane and isolated as he appears to be and IF Cheney really is as plane fucking evil as he surely is... then I'm more and more convinced that there would be opposing powers growing against them within the PTB structure. And these powers just might be sending them the occasional 'watch your step' message. Call me old fashioned but... a) for every force there is an equal and an opposite and I tend to believe that goes for both the wider universe <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>and</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> the company I work for, the groups I hang with, b) if you watch any amount of documentaries about warfare and see soldiers from grunts to officers being interviewed then you'll see that most of them are real people with real minds and a real sense of the world. Of course, some are flat out morons but I'm always amazed at the sheer decency of many of them. Stupid, they ain't. This is the first major conflict to be fought since the WWW went overground and I can't believe that thousands of them haven't watched 'Loose Change' and read Paul Thompson's timeline and so on. <br><br>Almost all of history's desptic regimes failed because of over reaching and/or people within turning towards the light. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: pictures?

Postby FourthBase » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:23 am

Your math is off. It's the 24th anniversary. I'm still waiting for Nancy Grace and Greta and Cooper to cover the pics extensively every night for at least two weeks straight. Maybe the anniversary will finally make it "news".<br> <p></p><i></i>
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