Fires on Pentagon upper floors

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Fires on Pentagon upper floors

Postby Vigilant Guardian » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:09 am

Sorry, I'm having a LetsRoll moment here - I'm sure this has been covered somewhere, but I'm not sure where... I recently noticed the fires that were burning on the third and it looks like fourth floors of the Pentagon on 9/11 after the impacted segment's collapse at 10:15. Hope these come out okay...

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As you can see, the fires are far more than a wing's-width from the impact area, and 2-3 floors above it. The fires did spread far on floors 1 and 2, but how do they burn up through the ceiling into the floor above?

Does anybody know what's been said about the source of these fires? All I can think they're consistent with is early reports that the plane was hit with a missile first - is this the Flight 93 debris field of the Flight 77 attack? A mid-air explosion is one of the few things besides sabotage that could explain this...
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Postby Vigilant Guardian » Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:06 pm

Okay so I'll just post stuff I find here myself. Found a picture from the 14th of a burnt chair on the fourth floor.
http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/Sep20 ... S-008.html

Their explanation: "Damage to the Pentagon was caused when the hijacked American Airlines flight slammed into the building on Sept. 11th. The terrorist attack caused extensive damage to the west face of the building and followed similar attacks on the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York City."

Duh. No explanation of how fire got that high up or if its in the burn zone in the other pictures, how it got that far northwest.

Another: http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/Sep20 ... S-004.html
"The effect of a flash fire in this fourth floor office inside the Pentagon is shown in this Sept. 14, 2001, photograph." The rest is the same explanation.

Pentagon report: http://www.pubs.asce.org/ceonline/ceonl ... 3feat.html
"there was facade damage on both sides of the impact area, including damage as high as the fourth floor. However, in the area of the impact of the fuselage and the tail, severe impact damage did not extend above the third-floor slab."
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Postby Vigilant Guardian » Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:28 pm

And now I'm finding that info on the possibility of pre-impact explosion of Flight 77 or whatever is very hard to track down. A friend said the BBC had reported it? Anybody have any clues?

Scanned the forums at LetsRoll and looks like no one there ever discussed this - at least no dedicated threads. This is the closest I found, from sept. 30 2005, and it got zero comments: http://letsrollforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10645

Has this really been completely ignored by MSM and 9II Truth alike?

Nah I'll probably find it...
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Postby Vigilant Guardian » Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:12 pm

Didn't bother to cite the source here, but read in Pentagon reports that the fires on upper floors entered thru windows to the left (northwest) and maybe to the right - these burnt through the new section quickly (despite the brand-new sprinkler system), then quit burning there because of the sprinklers but raged thruh the secion to the northeast where there were no sprinklers.

No fire evident in inpact/renovated area may be explained by the windows - Russell Pickering says: "Remember the renovation line was just a few feet from the collapse zone. That is why you see fire coming through all of the windows north of the renovation line." The new windows were too solid to let the fire burn or sho through, the windows I guess too covered with soot - the old windows just melted and let fire flame out of them so it's visible.
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/048.html

Problem with this: No photos I've seen show fire on the third and fourth floors to the near,right, near-left, or center of the area above the plane's impact. It's all floors one and two as far as I can see. Gov. reports cite no burning right above the impact zone on the fourth floor - people there just walked out of the building. We didn't need to look through a windo to see, after the collapse, an unburnt stool right above the impact zone on floor three, a wooden desk on floor four, and file cabinet on 5, all untouched and unburnt. Dave Von Kleist pointed these out Tho he got the floors drastically wrong:
http://frustratingfraud.blogspot.com/20 ... ce_26.html

Hmmm... Any thoughts anyone?
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