The apology thread.

[MacCruiskeen]

I am sorry to have to say that sometimes a 'fuck you' is perfectly justified, even if tactically ill-advised. I am sorry to have to point out that the 'spoilt' thread was spoiled by the person who worked so hard to provoke that 'fuck you'. i.e. agitprop, who has never apologised for provoking it, not even here and not even now. I am sorry to have to say that Cosmic Cowbell made his very first appearance on page 32 of that marathon thread merely in order to post a cartoon and issue a gratuitous one-line insult, thereby provoking Jeff to close the thread.

Much more importantly, I am sorry to have to say that while we say 'sorry' here, the life of January Schofield (6) is not just being spoiled but ruined, and will very likely be terminated before she reaches adolescence. Just like the thread that documented her ongoing torture, she will soon be "gone gone gone."

I am sorry to see her Daddy, Michael Schofield, comparing himself to Saturn (who ate his children), noting that his child's growth makes him feel he himself is shrinking, saying: "I miss my baby girl", "I feel myself getting more psychotic, more paranoid" and "I am death."

I am sorry to say that that's just one of Daddy's vile blogposts, out of dozens in a very similar vein. Far from apologising for any of it, he explicitly forbids any criticism or judgement of what he says and does. And I'm sorry to say he is still getting away with it.

I am sorry to see how many adoring fans Michael Schofield has.

I am sorry to see the American corporate media, from ABC to the LA Times, flattering Michael Schofield and his harpy of a wife while ignoring and covering up the vicious abuse and cruel neglect so heavily documented on his blog.

I am particularly sorry to see that many, many people clearly regard the Schofields' treatment of their child as not just defensible but normal and even praiseworthy. The Schofields are becoming role models to thousands, if not millions.

I am sorry to see that Michael Schofield has yet another new and truly disgusting blogpost up today, in which he tells his tiny child (who is playing with what even he now admits is nothing more sinister than an imaginary friend): "We don't want her to drown in her own vomit." I am sorry to see him still praising himself incessantly for working incessantly to drive his daughter insane.

Sorry about all that. Very sorry indeed. But not sorry for mentioning it, much less for continuing to mention it.

[lightningBugout]

I'm sorry for most of that too Mac. A quick follow up though, since I do not know where else I would post it. My psychotherapist friend posted the OP and the RI thread to a professional listserv. If it makes you feel any better - the unanimous consensus was that something about the story stinks to high heaven. That the idea that girl is "schizophrenic" is absurd, at best. On the downside, they mostly felt there was nothing they could do. And he re-iterated that our best bet is letters to CPS.

[mentalgongfu2]

I'm sorry I clicked on this thread.

[agitprop]

Mac, I'm sorry that I'm not sorry.

[OP ED]

is this the new flame thread? i hope not, i like it, even if i am almost never sorry and absolutely never fucking sorry about that.

Sorry,
But yeah thats funny.
I was pretty flabbergasted that most people who know me in flesh could not tell who I was here either...But did suggest some of the people Im fond of

And I thought it was glaringly obvious after reading more than a few posts.

i've posted pictures of myself and my stuff here. besides i'm just fairly obvious in general. the email address i signed up with is listed on my passport. heh. OP ED has nothing to hide. plus i actually talk this way, so i'm sure they all recognize me immediately. if anything i am "quieter" in person but my language is much more severe.

Mac, I'm sorry that I'm not sorry.

no, cupcake, you're just sorry.

[erosoplier]

Mac, I'm sorry I didn't chime in to support you in the Jani thread. I saw some agitprop posts and realised that I'd get conniptions if I tried to engage with any of that.

I'm sorry for most of that too Mac. A quick follow up though, since I do not know where else I would post it. My psychotherapist friend posted the OP and the RI thread to a professional listserv. If it makes you feel any better - the unanimous consensus was that something about the story stinks to high heaven. That the idea that girl is "schizophrenic" is absurd, at best. On the downside, they mostly felt there was nothing they could do. And he re-iterated that our best bet is letters to CPS.

I'm sorry that I knew from the outset that the response of professional mental-health-care providers would be to wash their hands of the problem, to take absolutely no responsibility for something they had become a witness to, even though they are the supposed professionals.

I'm sorry that this sort of stuff goes on all the time, all over the world, every day, and that it's a tragedy of huge proportions for which there is no easy solution, but I'm glad - it's terrible, but I'm glad - to have discovered that I now can switch off and not tear myself up caring about this sort of thing when I'm powerless to do anything about it. That's terrible because one of the few ways that change for the better will occur is if people do care, even if they are powerless.

[Penguin]

That's terrible because one of the few ways that change for the better will occur is if people do care, even if they are powerless.

Im sorry Im sometimes too angry about things and people and things people do, out of proportion. Dont know if it shows, but I know I go off way too easy at times.

[Cosmic Cowbell]

I am sorry to have to say that Cosmic Cowbell made his very first appearance on page 32 of that marathon thread merely in order to post a cartoon and issue a gratuitous one-line insult, thereby provoking Jeff to close the thread.

And I'm sorry to have to say Mac, that after your Jani thread "performance", you're once again my favorite turd.

Cheers!

~C

(Seriously, does anyone think that because -I- posted a fucking cartoon that absolutely reflected where the thread had gone, Jeff felt moved to close that now re-opened thread? -If- that were truly the case...you're welcome.)

[lightningBugout]

I am sorry to have to say that Cosmic Cowbell made his very first appearance on page 32 of that marathon thread merely in order to post a cartoon and issue a gratuitous one-line insult, thereby provoking Jeff to close the thread.

And I'm sorry to have to say Mac, that after your Jani thread "performance", you're once again my favorite turd.

Cheers!

~C

(Seriously, does anyone think that because -I- posted a fucking cartoon that absolutely reflected where the thread had gone, Jeff felt moved to close that now re-opened thread? -If- that were truly the case...you're welcome.)

To clarify I had the distinct impression you were calling me a bully. Am I wrong? I would challenge you to find anyway in which I was "bullying" to AP or otherwise. But then maybe I was wrong.

[OP ED]

from what i can tell, i was likely the last person to be able to insult agitprop directly.

i'm sorry i didn't make more of the opportunity.

[Project Willow]

I don't know whether this should go here or in the "I'm shitfaced" thread.

I profusely and humbly apologize for telling everyone to fuck off in a random thread last evening.

I was indeed over-inebriated. Usually I'm one of those people who gets all syrupy lovey-dovey, but life has been over the top weird lately. The stress has gotten to me.

[freemason9]

I'm sorry that I failed as a parent to one of my children, and I'm sorry that I don't know why that was the case.

[compared2what?]

I'm sorry that I failed as a parent to one of my children, and I'm sorry that I don't know why that was the case.

I'm sorry I can't console you for the pain and sorrow implicitly expressed by that appology. Which is really more in the nature of a regret on my part than it is an apology.

But....If it's of any consolation to you at all, my love for both of my parents is never fiercer than when I see that not only do they not know why they failed me, they don't even know that they're sorry they did, which is absolutely heartbreaking to me, since literally anyone who isn't one of them can easily see that they're so profoundly sorry that "sorry" is much too weak a word for it. "Haunted" probably comes as close as any word can, though only they could really say, of course. Which they can't, since they would first have to know they had any such feeling. Which they don't. All of which prevents them from knowing how truly and totally I love them, thus triggering the reflexive extra-fierceness whereby I try but fail to pierce that barrier.

That's been true for a long time, but it hasn't always been, as I, my parents, and the lord above all know and remember much too well. The reason I'm saying which, with the hope that it might be of some consolation to you being:

I can't imagine that I'm not quite a bit older than any of your children. And if there's one thing I am, it's sorry (again, in the sense of "I feel profound regret") that it just wouldn't have been possible for me to negotiate some of the by-ways I had to take on my route to adulthood if I'd had to make any very strenuous effort to ensure that my parents knew how much I loved them while I was on those particular stretches of it. Though obviously, I had no way of knowing at the time what their needs and limitations (or mine) might be a little farther down the road.

The upshot and also the saddest, saddest part of which is: Ultimately, they didn't fail me as parents at all. It's true that hey were not exactly the best parents possible for one of the children born to them (me) during her childhood. But those things do happen, often, and they aren't really anybody's fault. I may have sulked for a while, but the plain fact is that I didn't just randomly manage to make it to adulthood successfully somehow, using any old method that happened to catch my eye. I used the tools I acquired in childhood from my parents, for which I owe them gratitude, even if the period of acquisition wasn't as emotionally deluxe as one might have wished for.

In short: I insist that you feel your child's love for you if and when you can primarily for entirely self-interested reasons. But also because I sincerely hope that compliance with my busy-bodied and high-handed commands may eventually be of some comfort and utility to you. So if it's not, I'm sorry.

But not that sorry.



c2w

[barracuda]

freemason, I wish I had something to add to what c2w said, but I'm not sure I do, except to relay to you what an intense feeling of sadness I got when I first read your apology, and how it touches me still.

Willow, I found you're profanity quite funny. I guess I was the source of some off your frustration, so I'd like to apologise to you and n0x as well. I'm a shit.

[blanc]

from another failure freemason9, the futility of sorrying.