Did women cause the recession?

[Joe Hillshoist]

Along the lines of the "girlie insults" conversation, I remember an Army research project I'd heard about from the late 1980's in which our valient fighting forces tried to determine what provocation would most swiftly bring a man to blows. The answer, surprisingly, was to twist your fists before your eyes and say, "Wahh, wahh, wahh, you're gonna cry like a widdle fussy baby..." or "poor widdle baby needs his widdle mommy," or some like words. In practice, I have found this much more effective and insulting than referring to your antagonist as "Stephanie Morgana" (which sounds like a ragged drag queen, and is clearly far too elegant for the cad in question). It is also, delightfully, a gender-neutral strategy, and carries with it, at least for me, the rather laughable caché of the vague aforementioned military imprimateur. So while there is some satisfaction to be had by hissing the silibant "pussy" invective, I find that this method allows me a footing on the high ground unavailable with the more frequently used feminising formulations.

Just tryin' to be helpful.

I completely agree.

When it comes to sledging, ie insulting people on the footy field there are usually only a few specific ones I use.

Stop whinging you baby. Ohh have a cry. usually if someone is complaining about something.

They are sort*. They don't want it.(it being the football) They're scared, gutless children. etc etc

Thats pretty much it. maybe specific comments to distract someone when they are kicking at goal, variations on "chewie on your boot."

Sledging people, or paying them out on a sporting field only works against the weak minded tho.

But Morgana was specific to this thread and the ideas in it.

*Thats sposed to say soft.

not sort.

As in "Learn to check what you type you soft headed, soft cocked sortie."




(OK that last one was meant to be sort(ie) it was a joke.)

[OP ED]

whatever does sound like a term of endearment to you. Mr. There's-No-Fucking-Pleasing-Me.)

i am actually rather adaptable to whatever you prefer to use.

In fact, you wouldn't even be the first female to use "Mr. TNFPM" as such a term if you chose to do so. As near as i can remember, btw, i'm fairly certain that i haven't taken any particular offense to anything you've used as a referent so far. I merely cited it as an example out of convenience, as it was visible in the little window under that version of the little box ["topicreview"] i'm typing this message into. Which is to say that i did not choose it because it was the most witheringly terrible example of my hurted feelings i could come up with. oh, and also because it seemed counter intuitive, i.e. not an example someone else would've likely chosen to illustrate their point if someone other than me would've attempted to do so. just between us, btw, you can call me anything you like so long as you call me...

I can relate to some of what OP ED said, though. Except that all of the women I have ever known are still on good terms with me

well it was an exaggeration of course. But not by a lot. I'd say that probably 5 to 1 don't talk to me anymore, but this is not always on purpose so much as it is often the inevitable result of a rather natural tendency to move on with one's life, assuming of course that we had nothing else in common except our former love, i.e. we didn't share friends or employment or cult membership, etc.
To agree with you to some extent, btw, i'll add that it has seemed strange to me before, but it has often been the case that those relationships that ended most messily are the ones wherein at least some degree of friendly interaction afterwards remaining is most in evidence, in this case perhaps likely due to mutual causes. i.e. more involved love.

but really, you don't want a full digression into the sordid collection of attrocities that represents the sum total of OP ED's love life. just trust me.

[OP ED]

They are sort.

means nothing to me. i'd have to look it up...

[Joe Hillshoist]

They are sort.

means nothing to me. i'd have to look it up...

Its sposed to be soft

with and f.

OOOps

[OP ED]

oh okay. that makes sense.

i thought it might be some arcane aussie slang or sumthin.

[or football slang, FTM, as i don't play]

[psynapz]

Because, lest there be any lingering doubt on the matter, I will henceforth uniformly regard each and every such remark, without exception, as having been made with the express intention of fucking with me. And will respond accordingly.

It was naught but pure expression of affection for your personality, as conveyed in text, conveyed in text. I respectfully request amnesty in good faith, as the original remark was made in such.

We can call each other adorable here, right? Even in this thread?

psynapz did lose a few dozen points with that one in my book (yeah I keep scores).

Penguin: -1, Wrong.

Luvs,
-psynapz

[Penguin]

Mmm.

[OP ED]

Its sposed to be soft

...oh, and for the record:

Lao Tzu and Sun Tzu agree, softness is both a virtue and an advantage.

[compared2what?]

Because, lest there be any lingering doubt on the matter, I will henceforth uniformly regard each and every such remark, without exception, as having been made with the express intention of fucking with me. And will respond accordingly.

It was naught but pure expression of affection for your personality, as conveyed in text, conveyed in text. I respectfully request amnesty in good faith, as the original remark was made in such.

We can call each other adorable here, right? Even in this thread?

psynapz did lose a few dozen points with that one in my book (yeah I keep scores).

Penguin: -1, Wrong.

Luvs,
-psynapz

I swear. You can issue entire grants of general amnesty special-dedicated and designed for some people. And still it's not enough.

So NO. You cannot has anmsT. And why? Because you already got amesty, you dope. Consult your calendar and the relevant date/time stamps, cancel that appointment with the attorney, and relax. The Wimmintern appreciates the appreciation, and will not be using text as a weapon at this time. Okay, boo? Okay.

Meeting adjourned. The renewing of our revolutionary zeal through the magic of culture may now commence.

Chairwoman C2W

[Joe Hillshoist]

Its sposed to be soft

...oh, and for the record:

Lao Tzu and Sun Tzu agree, softness is both a virtue and an advantage.

I would agree actually, but .. calling someone soft still works as an advantage when in a high testosterone environment, (as does calling someone a crybaby - I did that last weekend to the riot crop who said to me: "Go away you are intimidating me". You gotta love being told by a riot cop that you are intimidating them.)

Calling someone soft in my part of the world is a shortened version of calling them a soft cock. Again its aimed at upsaetting males in a high testosterone environment.

I've done enough push hands to appreciate advantages of softness.

[OP ED]

don't play football meself, although it sounds a lot like how we play basketball here. broken glass and hate.

pushing hands is where it starts, and ends if done properly. in my only successful altercation with riot cops, my end had much to do with their overweightedness and lack of balance.

although, frankly, when dealing with people in full body armor, something more straightforward is often helpful. Kenpo taught me that properly motivated neurons, muscle and bone are more than sufficient to seperate stone from stone.

but so is water.

[psynapz]

The Wimmintern appreciates the appreciation, and will not be using text as a weapon at this time. Okay, boo? Okay.

Meeting adjourned. The renewing of our revolutionary zeal through the magic of culture may now commence.

Chairwoman C2W

Now if we can only convince mister grumpy penguin...

[Joe Hillshoist]

don't play football meself, although it sounds a lot like how we play basketball here. broken glass and hate.

pushing hands is where it starts, and ends if done properly. in my only successful altercation with riot cops, my end had much to do with their overweightedness and lack of balance.

although, frankly, when dealing with people in full body armor, something more straightforward is often helpful. Kenpo taught me that properly motivated neurons, muscle and bone are more than sufficient to seperate stone from stone.

but so is water.

I didn't get violent with the copper, but I was yelling at him to move a bloody vehicle if he didn't want me to bring down a whole world of official trouble on his head. He was trying to quote legislation as to why he was doing what he was doing and I was telling him why it didn't cover it. It was not a violent protest actually, and I only wandered up out of curiosity.

Riot cops in NSW were trained in some of Earle Montague's Tai Chi techniques (Old style Yang family tai chi chuan) so if they use them they are actually hard to deal with. I learned a bit of that stuff off one of earle's students, (and would have gone to him, but he moved to the UK) and the counters to their tactics.

It is mostly softness and balance, tho if you strike back you need hard pressure point strikes to actually do damage. I'm not into that myself. I'd rather roll round the side and step away.

Funny that some people in Australia (rugby heads mostly) call Aussie Rules Footy cross country basketball. Tho basketball doesn't usually get this intense.

[OP ED]

don't play football meself, although it sounds a lot like how we play basketball here. broken glass and hate.

pushing hands is where it starts, and ends if done properly. in my only successful altercation with riot cops, my end had much to do with their overweightedness and lack of balance.

although, frankly, when dealing with people in full body armor, something more straightforward is often helpful. Kenpo taught me that properly motivated neurons, muscle and bone are more than sufficient to seperate stone from stone.

but so is water.

I didn't get violent with the copper, but I was yelling at him to move a bloody vehicle if he didn't want me to bring down a whole world of official trouble on his head. He was trying to quote legislation as to why he was doing what he was doing and I was telling him why it didn't cover it. It was not a violent protest actually, and I only wandered up out of curiosity.

Riot cops in NSW were trained in some of Earle Montague's Tai Chi techniques (Old style Yang family tai chi chuan) so if they use them they are actually hard to deal with. I learned a bit of that stuff off one of earle's students, (and would have gone to him, but he moved to the UK) and the counters to their tactics.

It is mostly softness and balance, tho if you strike back you need hard pressure point strikes to actually do damage. I'm not into that myself. I'd rather roll round the side and step away.

Funny that some people in Australia (rugby heads mostly) call Aussie Rules Footy cross country basketball. Tho basketball doesn't usually get this intense.

i did not initiate any violence. i was agitated already tho. teargas and whatnots. wasn't even part of the riot/protest/whatever myself, only walked into it. they were doing that olde "box 'em up so we can hit 'em with sticks more effectively" tactic. didn't appeal to me.

i just wanted to go to my car.