RI "Bad" Guys: UR DOIN IT WRONG

[monster]

It's all still clear as mud!

[Et in Arcadia ego]

mind boggling, attackers without memories ...

Agreed. Something is very fucking wrong here.

[elfismiles]

Et, I am going to try my best not to react to your worst aspect.

I am sorry that your personal life has gotten dragged out in public.

I don't advocate that kind of trollish behavior just as I don't advocate the vitriol you sometimes unload on others, whether warranted or not.

Or as Et says, part of the problem since I have a clue what's being alleged here.

Yeah, I'm inclined to believe that. Especially since you entertain and host a person on your forum who has maliciously slandered members here, but that's to be forgiven as it all falls into the fold of your pathetic fucking ARG worship bullshit, doesn't it?

But what do I know?

I'm just a stupid, nigger-hating, satanic redneck who hooked the love of his life on dope and bailed on her cause of her 'cunt disease' abandoning her to fucking suicide.

Bravo, Miles. Has Tina sent you an autographed photo yet?

[Jeff]

FWIW I think c2w was referring to her own attack upon Wombaticus, which is why in the next line she offered herself up to banned.

[compared2what?]

If I don't hear from Jeff, I'm not continuing.

I'm not so sure I want to continue anyway. That personal attack on Wombat was horrifying. And every bit as bad as what I'm trying to expose.

If we can't keep away from that territory, I say lock it and ban me.

Which attack are you talking about? The one you started? I didn't attack him, I simply asked a couple questions.

I want some fucking answers to what's been going on here. My dead and desecrated fiance is on Kid Kenoma's blog, and I'm not getting much fucking support here. You pull this..oblique thing you've done with this thread, suggest you know more than it seems you really do, derail it jumping Wombat's ass, and then have the fucking audacity to call others out?

What the FUCK has happened to this place, Jeff?

Please calm down. I did not attack Wombat R. personally. He's free to associate with whom he likes, and also to earn his living as best suits him. I thought he was in cahoots with DE's interests. He assures me that he's not. Absent future bad behavior on his part, I have no further problems with him. I'm a fan of his work. I'm sorry to have been the proximate occasion for stronger words and suggestions regarding him than I know of any justification for having been launched his way. And I don't mean by you. You were in-bounds, personally. The subject was just spiralling out-of-bounds much too quickly. Dialogue is a lot more educational than interrogation. Because listening is generally more informative than speaking.

Nothing has happened to this place that wasn't always happening at this place. Dream's End, in conjunction with others, trolls it under many, many guises. I'm way behind on the demand for elaborations here, and I always will be if the furious shade-throwing and anguish levels keep getting turned up.

[SonicG]

FWIW I think c2w was referring to her own attack upon Wombaticus, which is why in the next line she offered herself up to banned.

That last bit has some odd ritualistic overtones..."Please ban me before I mystify everyone again..."

[Nordic]

This whole thread (not that I've read all of it) reminds me of a bigger version of the automatic complaint generator thing.

It really doesn't make any sense yet everybody's taking the bait and freaking out.

Maybe I'm missing something.

Seems like an exercise in creating drama out of shadows and paranoia

Why are you people engaging in it?

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[monster]

Why are you people engaging in it?

Personally, I want to see how many words can be typed without anything of substance being said! It's got to be a world-record! I don't know why I'm using exclamation marks! I did have two espressos earlier!

[Nordic]

Why are you people engaging in it?

Personally, I want to see how many words can be typed without anything of substance being said! It's got to be a world-record!

It seems like an exercise in exactly that.

[smiths]

i engaged in it because that bloody google bot down the bottom has been saying bad things about you all

[elfismiles]

C2W seems to feel there is evidence of a long-term concerted effort among the seemingly disparite incidences of RI community derailment. A variant on the Cointelpro shenanigans we often discuss here but possibly more a matter of a group of trolls that she believes may be working together and have been here for a very long time.

The users in question have often used sock-puppets to hide their identity and C2W is suggesting they were sleeper-sock-puppets waiting to be activitated.

All of which are ideas I'd not really thought about until DreamsEnd began his similarly minded suspicions and suggestions regarding our host and his moderators back in 2007.

And I as a curious person who has valued this forum have followed the activities of these disrupters, usually several steps behind, trying to figure out what the hell is really going on.

And now that they've unveiled themselves at my admittedly puny personal forum I've been trying to write an appropriate "Thanks but no thanks" reply to them because their past and ongoing behavior has made me less than willing to speak with them.

[compared2what?]

mind boggling, attackers without memories ...

Agreed. Something is very fucking wrong here.

I did accuse him of being in cahoots with DE. I did not like seeing his real-life personal info raked over the coals. I don't think anyone should have their real-life totally licit activities subjected to that kind of accusation or implication, absent a very solid and substantial body of real-life evidence that they're engaged in illegal activities that are harmful to others.

There is a big, big difference between calling someone out for being a troll and calling them out for being involved in nefarious real-world activities. Google is forever. His name was named. He could still run for president some day if teh Google only revealed some online bullshit. And I do not think that anybody, including you, has been subjected to anything worse than online bullshit. I don't think the "bad guys" have a worse weapon to wield than online bullshit.

I want to make it clear how small they really are. You have to get over that blog thing. Because it will be there forever. It was totally below the belt. You should never hit someone that way, even if they did it first. Wrong is wrong is wrong.

smiths, you totally threw me off my game with your first post. I don't think you intended to. But I don't care if you intended to. You hit an open wound that I tend to doubt you're aware of, though you could be. Either way, though: Please stop hitting it. It hurts.

[elfismiles]

It's all still clear as mud!

That's why I'm hoping C2W can shed more light on it.

[Et in Arcadia ego]

You guys want the shit, I'm gonna give it to you.

I was contacted by Jeff in December. He was basically venting over what appeared to be a new mystery person working along similar lines as the much despised fucking nick spoofer, Mrs Et in Arcadia ego Eve, about the only woman in the world I'd like to punch square in the mouth.

This new person, Mrs Tina fucking Delgado, is the apparent author of the Last Statue material, and several blogs, Untermuyer, and Kid Kenoma among them. Dream's End latched onto these, because that's what he does, and that does not warrant further explanation, its neither insult nor compliment.

I will offer no commentary on the actual contents of the Last Staircae's idiotic, psuedo-intellectual vomit being proffered as high browed wit and hidden meaning. Whoopee fucking doo, a recondrite trilobite humped a hot dog and had a wiki entry, WOW..

Via these blogs, the author was dropping what appeared as ominous references to RI members. This was facilitated in several ways, among them gossip from members here who don't know how to keep their fucking mouths shut when speaking about others who have placed trust in them. Another was via the 'RI Chat Room', which was authored by a person who registered on this forum with a proxy email account. The chat room keeps a visible log going back days and days. Information was also extracted from it, and used on these blogs.

Jeff's concern in approaching me was a security matter, and sought my assistance. My first suggestion was upgrading the very old forum, which we did. Meanwhile, in seeing a member here I have a personal liking towards targeted on the Kenoma blog, I made a few smart ass remarks on the blog, and used a VERY old email address, a pretty stupid one I threw together at random because all the names I wanted to use were taken.

Consequently, I was data mined, information on me was distorted BEYOND FUCKING BELIEF, my ex-fiance, who committed a horrible double suicide was dragged into this, and facts about her life twisted into making me appear the reason for her tragedy.

During all this I have been in constant contact with Dream's End, who has maintained a consistent disavowal of not knowing who this person is, and I believe him having discusses the matter for COUNTLESS fucking hours over the last three weeks.

Factor in the merging of the recent interest in the Octopus story, which attracted this forum's WORST unknown troll, Socrates/Last_Name_Left/Proldic and countless other screen names, with the Kid Kenoma author, and you have what Jeff referred to as the 'Perfect Troll Shit Storm'.

I have dealt with this trolling shit now for fucking years. I came to RI for my own reasons, to find my own answers, and Jeff has been the ONLY FUCKING PERSON IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD who helped me, so yes, I feel a certain loyalty to him, and as a result, I see people being idiots here, I call them out on it.

I am NOT a gate keeper in ANY way beyond trying tirelessly for YEARS to keep the chemtrail debunkers off this forum, because had they landed here, they would have destroyed the place same as every other forum they ever targeted. Isiots like Socrates, who sees chemtrail conspiracy in Planters Peanuts commercials, would have led these assholes RIGHT to us.

You people have no fucking clue what those guys are like. They would kill this forum in a week if it was targeted.

I have never gotten a thanks for that, or ever asked for one. I only wanted the place to stay safe so you could continue your discussions and research in peace. None of you ever even knew any of that was even happening. All you knew was Arcadia the jerk is always in a bad mood.

Now you know why.

I honestly don't know why I put so much time and effort into this place. It has never come back to me. But that's pretty much it, that's my cards on the table.

Fuck you all.

[compared2what?]

It really doesn't make any sense yet everybody's taking the bait and freaking out.

I agree. There's nothing to freak out about. It's all really pretty mundane. I'm way behind on responses owed. And I apologize for that. I'll get to you all, sooner or later.