Moderation question
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Re: Moderation question
Getting rid of blatant trolls would completely solve the problem.
Letting 17breezes stay around is inexplicable and incredibly disruptive to the entire site.
You cannot possibly do more to prove yourself a troll than he has.
It boggles my mind that those who can't tolerate the trolls, i.e. me and Mac, are those scolded, where the troll skates, with the "viewpoint different from my own" firmly attached to his ugly ass.
Makes no sense whatsofuckingever.
If you don't like what happened on that thread, then make it a point to get rid of the troll.
Ishatar, well his meltdown was something else entirely. Which I discussed on that thread in what I thought was a reasonable and introspective way.
But I cannot tolerate war-crime-loving trolls. Nobody else should either.
Fuck them.
Letting 17breezes stay around is inexplicable and incredibly disruptive to the entire site.
You cannot possibly do more to prove yourself a troll than he has.
It boggles my mind that those who can't tolerate the trolls, i.e. me and Mac, are those scolded, where the troll skates, with the "viewpoint different from my own" firmly attached to his ugly ass.
Makes no sense whatsofuckingever.
If you don't like what happened on that thread, then make it a point to get rid of the troll.
Ishatar, well his meltdown was something else entirely. Which I discussed on that thread in what I thought was a reasonable and introspective way.
But I cannot tolerate war-crime-loving trolls. Nobody else should either.
Fuck them.
"He who wounds the ecosphere literally wounds God" -- Philip K. Dick
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Re: Moderation question
Getting rid of blatant trolls would completely solve the problem.
Letting 17breezes stay around is inexplicable and incredibly disruptive to the entire site.
You cannot possibly do more to prove yourself a troll than he has.
It boggles my mind that those who can't tolerate the trolls, i.e. me and Mac, are those scolded, where the troll skates, with the "viewpoint different from my own" firmly attached to his ugly ass.
Makes no sense whatsofuckingever.
If you don't like what happened on that thread, then make it a point to get rid of the troll.
Ishatar, well his meltdown was something else entirely. Which I discussed on that thread in what I thought was a reasonable and introspective way.
But I cannot tolerate war-crime-loving trolls. Nobody else should either.
Fuck them.
17breezes trollery has been spectacularly successful so far. For him and those who he represents.
It's an embarrassment to the site, and to Mr. Wells.
Note how he has refused to comment on this thread:
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... =8&t=27994
Even though he has been invited to repeatedly by myself, he just ignores my requests, but it happy to always respond to me at all other times.
Letting 17breezes stay around is inexplicable and incredibly disruptive to the entire site.
You cannot possibly do more to prove yourself a troll than he has.
It boggles my mind that those who can't tolerate the trolls, i.e. me and Mac, are those scolded, where the troll skates, with the "viewpoint different from my own" firmly attached to his ugly ass.
Makes no sense whatsofuckingever.
If you don't like what happened on that thread, then make it a point to get rid of the troll.
Ishatar, well his meltdown was something else entirely. Which I discussed on that thread in what I thought was a reasonable and introspective way.
But I cannot tolerate war-crime-loving trolls. Nobody else should either.
Fuck them.
17breezes trollery has been spectacularly successful so far. For him and those who he represents.
It's an embarrassment to the site, and to Mr. Wells.
Note how he has refused to comment on this thread:
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... =8&t=27994
Even though he has been invited to repeatedly by myself, he just ignores my requests, but it happy to always respond to me at all other times.
"He who wounds the ecosphere literally wounds God" -- Philip K. Dick
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Re: Moderation question
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Re: Moderation question
Mac said:
It's not working.Link.
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Re: Moderation question
Moderating isn't about judging popularity contests. Perhaps less evidently, trolling is more than simply posting contentious opinion.
I know you care about this place, but let the mods do our unpaid jobs. Being battered with counsel on how to do mine just makes me want to play Lexulous.
I know you care about this place, but let the mods do our unpaid jobs. Being battered with counsel on how to do mine just makes me want to play Lexulous.
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Re: Moderation question
chiggerbit wrote:Mac said:It's not working.Link.
Unbelievable. Literally. Now you're actually pretending that you can't find that thread yourself! It's my (unpaid) job to guide you there - right? Although you very very very obviously know the way!chiggerbit wrote:Mac said:It's not working.Link.
Dishonesty, lazinesss and sheer timewasting selfishness abounds. QED. Yet again.
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In short: don't shit on me so sneakily, don't enter threads just in order to suggest bannings, and stop telling shabby lies at my expemse. Please. I'm asking you nicely.
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Re: Moderation question
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Re: Moderation question
Yes. Exactly. We have no disagreement there. How is 17Breezes someone who "simply posts contentious opinion?" He's most certainly not. By any definition, he's a troll.Jeff wrote:Trolling is more than simply posting contentious opinion.
But fine, I'll shut up for now, at least to you, Jeff. I'm glad you realize I care about this place.
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Re: Moderation question
The way this board is run became a serious concern to me several years ago.
Jeff's 'mod,' professorpan, was allowed to rampage with endless thread derailings and ad hominem attacks.
I appealed and appealed to Jeff to end the charade to no avail.
No illusions here about the tolerance and outright encouragement to certain trolls.
Jeff's 'mod,' professorpan, was allowed to rampage with endless thread derailings and ad hominem attacks.
I appealed and appealed to Jeff to end the charade to no avail.
No illusions here about the tolerance and outright encouragement to certain trolls.
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Re: Moderation question
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:The way this board is run became a serious concern to me several years ago.
Jeff's 'mod,' professorpan, was allowed to rampage with endless thread derailings and ad hominem attacks.
I appealed and appealed to Jeff to end the charade to no avail.
No illusions here about the tolerance and outright encouragement to certain trolls.
I don't have a problem with it. I imagine 17breezes will, eventually, hoist himself with his own petard. In the meantime, since the forum update there's been an amazing "ignore" function. Since breeze-dawg's posts are so content free I don't have to read them to respond to them anyway, and it makes my day easier. OTOH it took vigilant/apologydue hundreds of posts before he finally started dropping "Jewish banker" bombs and then made a reappearance.
Prof. pan could get out of line IMO, especially when people tended to think that woo-woo stuff was useless or didn't to support Obama, but I don't remember him banning or suspending anyone w/out cause. And frankly, HMWs, you're insane and you're still the only poster here who has a rule all to himself re: thread hijacking. Although that Bull Durham-Chewbacca post showed a touch of genius.
Jeff is pretty hands-off here. I'm okay with that, but then again, no one has ever fucked with--well, there have been one or two attempts, probably by the same person--me the way I imagine some others here get fucked with.
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Re: Moderation question
I just wish all posters could refrain from making slurs against the character of other posters, and start to engage with the written material in a more serious and adult manner.
And calling Hugh insane is also a slur, but one which has been repeated a million times on this board, so I daresay he is used to it.
But you know, slurs go on all the time around here. I myself have been slurred and I bloody well didnt like it one bit.
Less defamation of character and more adult, literate and intelligent discussion would be nice.
Perhaps we might have a mod that would encourage these things.
And I agree that Mac and Nordic have both been somewhat intemperate in their expression. I don't like to see that. Calm down, chaps. Nathan28's advice to ignore 17breeze's contentless drive by gibberish is worth following. Some people claim to see anti semitism where there is none, I have noticed. That's not to say it doesn't exist. I believe that a handful of folk with neo nazi or anti semitic affiliations or sympathies may have posted here, but they are easy to spot and don't stay long.
Anyway, who is going to be the new mod? We are all waiting with bated breath, you know.
I never saw any evidence that vigilant was anti semitic, although I grant I may be wrong about that. But unless you can substantiate that statement, its a slur. I still don't know why he was banned in the first instance, and still nurse a little resentment over it, would you believe. I always enjoyed his posts, whether or not I agreed with him. If anyone would really like to, they might pm me the reasons for him being banned, because I am curious. Of course, you don't have to.OTOH it took vigilant/apologydue hundreds of posts before he finally started dropping "Jewish banker" bombs and then made a reappearance.
Prof. pan could get out of line IMO, especially when people tended to think that woo-woo stuff was useless or didn't to support Obama, but I don't remember him banning or suspending anyone w/out cause. And frankly, HMWs, you're insane and you're still the only poster here who has a rule all to himself re: thread hijacking.
And calling Hugh insane is also a slur, but one which has been repeated a million times on this board, so I daresay he is used to it.
But you know, slurs go on all the time around here. I myself have been slurred and I bloody well didnt like it one bit.
Less defamation of character and more adult, literate and intelligent discussion would be nice.
Perhaps we might have a mod that would encourage these things.
And I agree that Mac and Nordic have both been somewhat intemperate in their expression. I don't like to see that. Calm down, chaps. Nathan28's advice to ignore 17breeze's contentless drive by gibberish is worth following. Some people claim to see anti semitism where there is none, I have noticed. That's not to say it doesn't exist. I believe that a handful of folk with neo nazi or anti semitic affiliations or sympathies may have posted here, but they are easy to spot and don't stay long.
Anyway, who is going to be the new mod? We are all waiting with bated breath, you know.
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Re: Moderation question
I don't like talking about people who aren't here to defend themselves, but since vigilant is probably here anyway in another sock, I'll say we're not flippant about charges of anti-semitism, and no, it wasn't a slur.Hammer of Los wrote:I never saw any evidence that vigilant was anti semitic, although I grant I may be wrong about that. But unless you can substantiate that statement, its a slur.
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Re: Moderation question
Hammer of Los wrote:I just wish all posters could refrain from making slurs against the character of other posters, and start to engage with the written material in a more serious and adult manner.
I never saw any evidence that vigilant was anti semitic, although I grant I may be wrong about that. But unless you can substantiate that statement, its a slur. I still don't know why he was banned in the first instance, and still nurse a little resentment over it, would you believe. I always enjoyed his posts, whether or not I agreed with him. If anyone would really like to, they might pm me the reasons for him being banned, because I am curious. Of course, you don't have to.OTOH it took vigilant/apologydue hundreds of posts before he finally started dropping "Jewish banker" bombs and then made a reappearance.
Prof. pan could get out of line IMO, especially when people tended to think that woo-woo stuff was useless or didn't to support Obama, but I don't remember him banning or suspending anyone w/out cause. And frankly, HMWs, you're insane and you're still the only poster here who has a rule all to himself re: thread hijacking.
And calling Hugh insane is also a slur, but one which has been repeated a million times on this board, so I daresay he is used to it.
But you know, slurs go on all the time around here. I myself have been slurred and I bloody well didnt like it one bit.
Less defamation of character and more adult, literate and intelligent discussion would be nice.
Perhaps we might have a mod that would encourage these things.
And I agree that Mac and Nordic have both been somewhat intemperate in their expression. I don't like to see that. Calm down, chaps. Nathan28's advice to ignore 17breeze's contentless drive by gibberish is worth following. Some people claim to see anti semitism where there is none, I have noticed. That's not to say it doesn't exist. I believe that a handful of folk with neo nazi or anti semitic affiliations or sympathies may have posted here, but they are easy to spot and don't stay long.
Anyway, who is going to be the new mod? We are all waiting with bated breath, you know.
yeah I remember when you were all upset thinking another poster was calling you a troll. I posted some "contentless drive by gibberish," defending you.
No good deed goes unpunished with you.
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Re: Moderation question
17breezes wrote:Hammer of Los wrote:I just wish all posters could refrain from making slurs against the character of other posters, and start to engage with the written material in a more serious and adult manner.
I never saw any evidence that vigilant was anti semitic, although I grant I may be wrong about that. But unless you can substantiate that statement, its a slur. I still don't know why he was banned in the first instance, and still nurse a little resentment over it, would you believe. I always enjoyed his posts, whether or not I agreed with him. If anyone would really like to, they might pm me the reasons for him being banned, because I am curious. Of course, you don't have to.OTOH it took vigilant/apologydue hundreds of posts before he finally started dropping "Jewish banker" bombs and then made a reappearance.
Prof. pan could get out of line IMO, especially when people tended to think that woo-woo stuff was useless or didn't to support Obama, but I don't remember him banning or suspending anyone w/out cause. And frankly, HMWs, you're insane and you're still the only poster here who has a rule all to himself re: thread hijacking.
And calling Hugh insane is also a slur, but one which has been repeated a million times on this board, so I daresay he is used to it.
But you know, slurs go on all the time around here. I myself have been slurred and I bloody well didnt like it one bit.
Less defamation of character and more adult, literate and intelligent discussion would be nice.
Perhaps we might have a mod that would encourage these things.
And I agree that Mac and Nordic have both been somewhat intemperate in their expression. I don't like to see that. Calm down, chaps. Nathan28's advice to ignore 17breeze's contentless drive by gibberish is worth following. Some people claim to see anti semitism where there is none, I have noticed. That's not to say it doesn't exist. I believe that a handful of folk with neo nazi or anti semitic affiliations or sympathies may have posted here, but they are easy to spot and don't stay long.
Anyway, who is going to be the new mod? We are all waiting with bated breath, you know.
yeah I remember when you were all upset thinking another poster was calling you a troll. I posted some "contentless drive by gibberish," defending you.
No good deed goes unpunished with you.

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