PROMETHEUS

[Burnt Hill]

Maya Creation Myth


In Maya mythology, Tepeu and Gucumatz (also known as Kukulkan, and as the Aztec's Quetzalcoatl) are referred to as the Creators, the Makers, and the Forefathers. They were two of the first beings to exist and were said to be as wise as sages. Huracan, or the Heart of Heaven, also existed and is given less personification. He acts more like a storm, of which he is the god.

Tepeu and Gucumatz hold a conference and decide that, in order to preserve their legacy, they must create a race of beings who can worship them. Huracan does the actual creating while Tepeu and Gucumatz guide the process. Earth is created, but the gods make several false starts in setting humanity upon the earth. Animals were created first; however, with all of their howling and squawking they did not worship their creators and were thus banished forever to the forest. Man is created first of mud, but they just crumbled and dissolved away.

Other gods are summoned and man is next created of wood but has no soul, and they soon forgot their makers, so the gods turned all of their possessions against them and brought a black resinous rain down on their heads. Finally man is formed of masa or corn dough by even more gods and their work is complete. As such, the Maya believed that maize was not just the cornerstone of their diet, but they were also made of the same stuff.

In the beginning there is only sky and sea, personified as a trinity of gods called Heart-of-Sky. They decide that they want someone to praise them. They begin by saying "Earth", which appears on demand from the sea. This is followed by mountains and trees, and Heart-of-Sky establish that "our work is going well".

Next the creatures of the forest:= were created -- birds, deer, jaguars and snakes. They are told to multiply and scatter, and then to speak and "pray to us". But the animals just squawk and howl. They are consequently humbled and will become servants to whoever will worship Heart-of-Sky. So Heart-of-Sky try to make some more respectful creatures from mud. But the results are not great, and they allow the new race to be washed away.

They call upon their grandparents, who suggest wood as an appropriate medium. But the wooden people are just mindless robots, so Heart-of Sky set about the destruction of this new race by means of a rain-storm. This causes the animals to turn against the wooden people; even their pots and querns rebel, and crush the peoples' faces. The wooden people escape to the forests and are turned into monkeys. Heart-of-Sky then make yet another attempt at creating a suitably respectful race, and finally succeed by fashioning humans out of maize-corn dough.

http://www.crystalinks.com/mayancreation.html

[peartreed]

If maize is the CORNerstone of creation, that helps explain why many of us pop under pressure, puff out at a hot party, butter ourselves up and sometimes are just flakes. Shucks, maybe it even reveals why I’m a few niblets short of a full cob.

[Burnt Hill]

If maize is the CORNerstone of creation, that helps explain why many of us pop under pressure, puff out at a hot party, butter ourselves up and sometimes are just flakes. Shucks, maybe it even reveals why I’m a few niblets short of a full cob.

Now that was an a-maize-ing post peartreed!

[Simulist]

If maize is the CORNerstone of creation, that helps explain why many of us pop under pressure, puff out at a hot party, butter ourselves up and sometimes are just flakes. Shucks, maybe it even reveals why I’m a few niblets short of a full cob.

Now that was an a-maize-ing post peartreed!

Indeed. I was all ears.

[peartreed]

There's a kernel of truth somewhere in there for all of us!

[vince]

Now, it's getting corny!

[Joe Hillshoist]

Thanks for the invitation, Joe. Can't think of too many things I rather do than trip with Joe Hillshoist and maybe snorkel the Barrier Reef.

Cheers big ears. I'd recommend you hurry if you want to see the reef tho, its about to be destroyed by money hungery mining companies and short sighted fuckwit politicians.

[Burnt Hill]

Lets not make a cob job of this thread though.

[Skunkboy]

This post is turning into a real cob... I mean sob story. With all these corny puns, the ears... damn it, I mean tears, are starting to flow!

[KeenInsight]

I don't know why anyone is looking deeply into the Prometheus movie... There's nothing too "deep" about it. Its a prequel to the movie Alien, but I'm sure at least some people know that or it was discussed in this thread, but I'm not going to bother reading 6 pages of nonsense. Basically its Ridley Scott trying to give the Alien fanbase more story about the "Engineers" or "Space Jockey" race in that fictional universe he created. A dead Engineer is discovered in the movie Alien, when the Nostromo crew discover a beacon on Lv-246 from a crashed ship, the same kind built/seen in the Prometheus movie on Lv-233. The Engineers create the 'black ooze,' which is a bio-engineering weapon, but its a less refined version of the complete delivery method of the "Xenomorph." During the movie, you also see Elizabeth's Shaw's partner Charlie examining a murial and if you look closely, it is the 'final' development of what the Engineers are trying to create, a Xenomorph the ultimate lifeform.

In the movie Alien, the ship discovered contains the "final" delivery method of the Xenomorph lifeforms that is used as a biological weapon to wipe-out any planet's biology. A facehugger escaped aboard this ship and surprised the Engineer, who later crash landed on Lv-246 to sacrifice itself rather than heading to its intended unknown destination. The crew discover its corpse with its chest burst open. The beacon he left behind was a warning, not a distress signal (stay away). Alien thus spawned the movies Aliens and Alien 3 following the character Ellen Ripley in her own little private hell with these things.

Xenomorphs are these things, the stuff of my nightmares when I was a kid:

(the facehugger delivers the embryo)

(grows into this inside individual and kills them when it bursts out "the chestburster")

(what it grows into, full size)

One of these is seen at the end of Prometheus, which finally shows what a Xenomorph looks like when it adopts the DNA of its host, an Engineer.

Timeline:

Prometheus - 2093 (Lv-233)
Alien - 2122 (Lv-246)
Aliens - 2179 (Lv-246)
Alien 3 - 2179 (Fury-161)

Yeah, I'm nerding out.

[brekin]

KeenInsight wrote:

I don't know why anyone is looking deeply into the Prometheus movie... There's nothing too "deep" about it. Its a prequel to the movie Alien, but I'm sure at least some people know that or it was discussed in this thread, but I'm not going to bother reading 6 pages of nonsense.

If you don't bother reading our nonsense why should we bother reading yours?

[KeenInsight]

KeenInsight wrote:

I don't know why anyone is looking deeply into the Prometheus movie... There's nothing too "deep" about it. Its a prequel to the movie Alien, but I'm sure at least some people know that or it was discussed in this thread, but I'm not going to bother reading 6 pages of nonsense.

If you don't bother reading our nonsense why should we bother reading yours?

You're a funny guy. Are you a comedian? I'm stating facts and how this movie ties in with Ridley Scott's other movies, that's all there is too it. Simple, and getting straight to the point that seemingly everyone missed.

There is no fucking agenda to the Prometheus movie.

[elfismiles]

I'm stating facts and how this movie ties in with Ridley Scott's other movies, that's all there is too it. Simple, and getting straight to the point that seemingly everyone missed.

There is no fucking agenda to the Prometheus movie.

Yeah, I'm sure reading interviews with Ridley where he actually talks about the movie he just made will tell us nothing about the movie's agenda.

[KeenInsight]

All in all, not a terribly good movie. Mildly entertaining Ridley Scott chose to give more info about the Space Jockey's, but that's it.

So I'll leave you all to discuss trivial hoop-jumping and philosophizing with Alex Jones and crazy 'agenda' shit, while I go re-watch Alien films, the best horror movies of all time. I'm half-expecting a certain individual to arrive in this thread and give a CIA angle, because you know, its DEEP.

[elfismiles]

So KI, as an ALIENS franchise fan ... do you dislike the 4th installment? Is that why you left it out of your timeline?

I hate the 3rd film and wasn't terribly thrilled with the 4th and I pretty much ignore the predator crossover...

Just curious.

In the movie Alien, the ship discovered contains the "final" delivery method of the Xenomorph lifeforms that is used as a biological weapon to wipe-out any planet's biology. A facehugger escaped aboard this ship and surprised the Engineer, who later crash landed on Lv-246 to sacrifice itself rather than heading to its intended unknown destination. The crew discover its corpse with its chest burst open. The beacon he left behind was a warning, not a distress signal (stay away). Alien thus spawned the movies Aliens and Alien 3 following the character Ellen Ripley in her own little private hell with these things.

...

Timeline:

Prometheus - 2093 (Lv-233)
Alien - 2122 (Lv-246)
Aliens - 2179 (Lv-246)
Alien 3 - 2179 (Fury-161)

Yeah, I'm nerding out.

All in all, not a terribly good movie. Mildly entertaining Ridley Scott chose to give more info about the Space Jockey's, but that's it.

So I'll leave you all to discuss trivial hoop-jumping and philosophizing with Alex Jones and crazy 'agenda' shit, while I go re-watch Alien films, the best horror movies of all time. I'm half-expecting a certain individual to arrive in this thread and give a CIA angle, because you know, its DEEP.