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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:52 am
by Horatio Hellpop
Joe, believe me that I am total agreeance with the sites you posted except I think it should be against 'jobs' not 'work'. After all, learning to play guitar is work, writing a poem is work, conditioning yourself physically is work.
BTW they don't have the dole where I'm living

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:23 am
by Joe Hillshoist
Yeah i agree about the jobs thing.
I start work at 7 in the morning and only do an eight hour day cos at the moment the job is frankly too much hard work to do more. I get one unpaid RDO a month, and todays it. There is fuck all meaning in the job, well...
I work on a farm that is a one huge scam. We grow bamboo, and sell the shoots in markets in Sydney and melbourne. The farm is owned by one company, we are employed by another, and the investors in a third company get the rights to the profitsfrom whatever shoots grow on the farm. They invest and get the rights to a "block", a one hectare planting of bamboo.
The farm, well its 2 farms, is about 150 hectares, with about 120 planted.
At the moment we are pruning the bamboo. It is ball breaking work as its the first time its been done in about 5 years. We got someone else in to help recently and went through heaps of people who just couldn't hack it in the process.
If it wasn't for the structure around the business i could take something from the fact that we are growing food, and I do a little, and at least it keeps me fit and strong.
And up until a couple of years ago (when I started) the place considered a joke locally. But the owners and investors in Sydney don't have a clue, and don't seem to care about the effort we have put in. the whole place is up for sale at the moment cos its a scam, and the tax breaks have gone, and quite frankly Pitt St farmers don't have a fucking clue.
Rant rant rant
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:42 am
by Horatio Hellpop
keeps ya fit i guess
there's an honesty to physical labour but i guess when you're doing it for the faceless it's pretty fucked
meaning in a 'job' would be nice
there's so little to do at my job that all i can think about is getting wrecked and this usually in spite of making a vow that morning never to drink again
bad research
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:06 am
by Trifecta
PP, your firm stance that this cannot be proven, thus impossible (improbable) is a clear indication that you have not done the research. If you can get your magnificent brain (sarcasm) around metadata, keywords, taxonomy, folksonomy, semantic webs etc, well I bow down to you sir. But, until then, here's a little story.
According to the testimony of Tim Russert in the Scooter Libby trial, regardless of what conversation he had with Mr. Libby, the information regarding Plame had long been known.
Despite Ambassador Joe Wilson's proclamations to the contrary, the Washington Post editorial by Robert Novak in June, 2003, was not the first public disclosure of his wife's role in undercover operations.While allegations of Wilson's own loose lips in the Fox News green room to two retired military officers has also made headlines, AP has learned that Ms. Plame played a key role in the first outing of both herself and the "cover" corporation that she worked for.
Ms. Plame wrote a screen play that was turned into a movie in the early 1980's under the psuedonym "Emmit Fitzhume." The movie included disclosure of CIA insertion operations, selection of operatives, and the name of an until then CIA run agency called the "Ace Tomato Corporation." However, the credits to the movie include her name as the "CIA technical advisor," and her actual role was played by Donna Dixon, a role that used her name.
While Ms. Plame had her lead character use her pseudonym for the screenplay, her part in the operation used the cover of a Red Cross Nurse working in the mountains of Pakistan along the Afghanistan border. Red Cross officials launched an investigation and broke ties with the CIA after the movie to prevent the appearance of impartiality. Plame also drew criticism from the CIA for releasing information about common sexual practices of agents on assignment.
Ms. Plame has said that the screenplay was vetted by the CIA prior to her submission to Warner Brothers films.
The movie, which was titled Spies like Us, nearly ended the presidency of Ronald Reagan in 1985 due to the disclosure of rogue military officers trying to launch a nuclear war with the Soviet Union. Additionally, the CIA was forced to changed the name of the under cover corporation to the "Acme Tomato Corporation."
Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald has indicated that he was aware of this disclosure, and it was the primary reason that he did not indict any current officials for violations of the Undercover Agent Act.
Neither Chevy Chase nor Dan Akroyd, the producers and lead actors in the film would comment, citing "national security."
Ah, that clears it all up eh?
was released and a student at Penn State.
Donna Dixon's plays a character called "Karen Boyer".
Plames name is mentioned nowhere in the credits -
The film itself is on the level of an "Animal House" comedy, though not as funny. Lot's of potty humour.
"National Security" has not stopped the movie from being sold for $9.45 at amazon.com
Do you guys make this stuff up?
Keyword the truth out of this one .... good luck!
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:09 am
by IanEye
wait, so now you are telling me that the Walrus is MI5 or something?
"Live And Let Die" indeed....
hmmmmm, and then he did that "CHOBA B CCCP" album
what have I gotten myself into??
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:31 am
by IanEye
and furthermore, does that make Warren Beatty
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewt ... 923#138923
Felix Leiter?
" 'cause in the mind
of Ronald Reagan
wheels they turn
and gears they grind....
buildings collapse
in slow motion
Everything is fine
Everything is fine
Everything is fine"
Re: bad research and jokes
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:24 pm
by Hugh Manatee Wins
Trifecta wrote:PP, your firm stance that this cannot be proven, thus impossible (improbable) is a clear indication that you have not done the research. If you can get your magnificent brain (sarcasm) around metadata, keywords, taxonomy, folksonomy, semantic webs etc, well I bow down to you sir. But, until then, here's a little story.
While Ms. Plame had her lead character use her pseudonym for the screenplay, her part in the operation used the cover of a Red Cross Nurse working in the mountains of Pakistan along the Afghanistan border. Red Cross officials launched an investigation and broke ties with the CIA after the movie to prevent the appearance of impartiality. Plame also drew criticism from the CIA for releasing information about common sexual practices of agents on assignment.
Ms. Plame has said that the screenplay was vetted by the CIA prior to her submission to Warner Brothers films.
The movie, which was titled Spies like Us, nearly ended the presidency of Ronald Reagan in 1985 due to the disclosure of rogue military officers trying to launch a nuclear war with the Soviet Union. Additionally, the CIA was forced to changed the name of the under cover corporation to the "Acme Tomato Corporation."
Trifecta, your info on keyword advertising and rank is interesting.
But I think the Plame=Hollywood script writer is a joke that got virally marketed.
And funny how it mirrors the movie psy-ops I point at, isn't it? I get the distinct impression that I'm helping to give the counterpropaganda department at CIA their assignments for them.
Hey! No copying! as we used to say in school.

Plame and Fair Game | 7 Days in LeMay
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:05 am
by MinM
Posted 24 June 2009 - 03:17 PM
I'd be willing to bet that the title of the novel and movie was a pun on "LeMay." I mean, it could have been "Seven Days in June" or "Seven Days in August."
I remember seeing the movie a couple of times, wondering how they came up with such a believable story about an attempted coup d'etat in America. It was preposterous, such a thing could never happen here, but they made it seem so realistic! That's how naive or stupid I was back then.
I was also a big fan of The Twilight Zone. It would never have occurred to me back then that the government would care what was being written or shown in the entertainment world. (I had no idea, for example, that the government was out to get the editor of Mad Magazine!) Weren't there more important things to worry about? I remember reading about how the "insane" Ernest Hemingway, who was just a novelist who enjoyed hunting and bullfights, was convinced that the FBI was spying on him. How crazy can you get!?
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index ... ntry168834
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... 47#p461747
dupes of the Wicked King Wicker
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 12:47 pm
by IanEye
MinM, it is funny you should bring up this thread.
I was thinking of it the other day in terms of the current level of animosity towards Hugh.
Hugh Manatee Wins used to drive me crazy.
But then, for whatever reason, the ire went away and he doesn't bother me at all now.
I like reading his posts, even though I don't agree with a lot of it.
eye guess in the end, we met
somewhere between Never-Neverland and Wonderland.
Re:
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 7:23 pm
by MinM
I was looking for information on Ishtar of all things...
Apparently not many people who live in North America have seen that DVD.
shedding off one more layer of skin
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:15 pm
by IanEye
well, thanks all the same MinM.
Re: dupes of the Wicked King Wicker
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:08 pm
by Joe Hillshoist
IanEye wrote:
eye guess in the end, we met
somewhere between Never-Neverland and Wonderland.
That is brilliant IanEye.
Cheers.
Re: dupes of the Wicked King Wicker
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:27 pm
by Hugh Manatee Wins
Joe Hillshoist wrote:IanEye wrote:
eye guess in the end, we met
somewhere between Never-Neverland and Wonderland.
That is brilliant IanEye.
Cheers.
Absolutely. Must read lyrics on the breadth of insidious poor-nog-graphy.
And a real thing, not merely an ironic metaphor.
Disney revived Tinkerbell to train future honeypots working with 'blue balls'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6OIvTut ... re=related
due to bad Plame publicity,
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31490146/ns ... s-lawsuit/
lawsuits by CIA women,
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/200 ... -probation
and ex-CIA Lindsey Moran's whistleblower book-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsay_Moran