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[RocketMan]

Since when should any US citizen be rooting for the criminalization of the free dissemination of true information that exposes the corruption and mendacity of any of our political representatives, regardless of the team they play for?

Even if Guccifer is an actual agent of Putin, doesn't the disclosure of the truth about how our leaders actually operate serve the greater interests of democracy? Doesn't the criminalization of the disclosure of the truth about how our leaders actually operate oppose the greater interests of democracy?

Yes, Trump is the greater of the evils, by far, but the greatest of the evils is allowing your hatred of Trump to blind you into supporting even further criminalization of the disclosure of the truth. The greater battle is the battle of whistleblowers of all stripes vs. corrupt oligarchs of all stripes. How is it that corporate media has managed to turn so many otherwise well-meaning Democrats against their most cherished overriding principles over just two short years of conditioning?

[alloneword]

I prefer discussion over debate. It's less formal and there's no barrier for entry.

[Belligerent Savant]

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Post by barracuda » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:51 pm

The spectacle of American Dream citing board rules after his behaviour on these Alavarez threads is really beyond the pale. You can stop anytime now, dude, and quit playing toy admin. It's not only boring as hell, its just a tiny bit nauseating.

From the following thread:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=25288&start=120

10 yrs ago.

AD's behavior in that thread is quite telling, and disturbing, given his M.O. throughout his 'tenure' here. And yet he's permitted to persist.

I encourage all to check out that thread and come to your own conclusions.

[brainpanhandler]

As I've said elsewhere, the only "good" thing about Drumpf is that he may be galvanizing the opposition, much of which lay dormant while Obomb'em was in office.

"Galvanizing" 'em like a frog's severed legs wired to a battery. As soon as the media switch off the juice (maybe after a JFK-in-Dallas moment or some other "constitutional crisis"), I think most of that "opposition" will subside into happy inertia once again, and then it'll be back to business-as-usual, capitalism-as-usual, empire-as-usual. planetary-collapse-as-usual. And you'll be a "conspiracy theorist" or a Debbie Downer if you see anything wrong with any of it.

[brainpanhandler]

The Democrats are down by four points with just a minute left on the clock, but they have the ball first and goal on the one foot line. And out comes their Charlie Brown and Lucy field goal unit.

[MacCruiskeen]

Always worth pointing out to QAnon chaps that 4D chess is just chess. Time is the fourth dimension.

[JackRiddler]

I'm still trying to comprehend how the United States of America lured a celebrated state official of another country they've been persecuting for at least seventy years to his death and (for many people) apparently succeeded in trying to pretend he was a terrorist by killing him in an act of terrorism in front of the worlds press.

Techtonic guns seem like, overkill, beside the power to do all that.

But I confess, I am open to the idea.

[hanshan]

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http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=41979&p=683468#p683468

This is what I mean about media operating on a delay. The "slight extension"
you're talking
has already been extended through
the middle of March and there are currently
more Chinese citizen
living under martial law lockdown than exist
in the entire United States of America

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[hanshan]

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http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=41979&p=683772#p683772

WR

This is shaping up to be an existential threat to the social contract --
any version of purported relationship between the rulers and the ruled.

Not that things are much better here. Once you really
dig into CDC's guidelines for dealing with this, they don't
even get serious about their "recommendations" per school
closures and cancelling mass events until there are
millions of casualties. Not cases; casualties.
Commerce Uber Alles.

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[JackRiddler]

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Perhaps weirdest of all is how we in the US spend two fucking years choosing an executive.

"choosing an executive" should be replaced with the suggested long-winded clarification "being subjected to blatant propaganda/disinfo campaigns -- conditioning programs -- designed to offer the illusion of self-directed selection of the next appointed figurehead".

Yup.

At least out of all this, national health insurance has been dished onto the policy plate. Most of the energy has gone into trying to scrape it back off.

[liminalOyster]

people don't have a lot of gears or gradients between "You're Just Being Paranoid" and "We're All Going To Die."

[hanshan]

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Rex:


Things have gotten crazy, right? Been a long year.
However, from all available facts, we're still dangling our legs
off the edge of the cliff, just ahead of the inflection point
where our world and our everyday lives become impossible
to recognize. All the precipitous, accelerating insanity
we've lived through so far has been, at best, only the beginning
of our journey to the center of the coronavirus outbreak.


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[Belligerent Savant]

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People can start whatever they like on Reddit or Instagram or TikTok or whatever else they fancy. It may be interesting, but I don't care and obviously it will not be this board, for exactly the reasons you're saying. This board will remain the only version of this board above all because it includes the only archive of this board. I hope we will be able to save it, but there will be no non-php substitute.

[liminalOyster]

Note that under no circumstance are we allowed to ask anything of our government to do anything significant to help us. No, the onus is instead almost completely on each and every average American struggling to survive. If we can't afford the outrageous cost of health insurance, then that is our fault and we deserve to die. If we can't afford the outrageous cost of hosing, that is our fault and we deserve to live in the gutter. If we can't afford the necessities of life, that is our fault because we didn't plan far enough ahead. If we can't earn a living and manage to survive comfortably while hiding away in our houses indefinitely, that is our fault for not having sufficiently prepared for ourselves for the cybernetic dystopian future that Hollywood unceasingly warmed us about. If we contract COVID-19 and get seriously ill or die, that is our fault for interacting with other humans or objects touched by other humans without immediately dipping our hands in the precious cytoplasmic membrane exploding chemicals we should have known to stockpile.

[JackRiddler]

the current financial system is a bit like those memes of guys on bicycles in India somewhere with 2 goats riding pillion & a dozen baskets perched precariously on the handle-bars. The "Its-just-the-flu" merchants do have sort of a point - its only a pot-hole in the road that the bikes front wheel just hit, not a 20 foot deep pit but that's missing the point of the very small amount of force required to bring about the collapse of a very large system once it has achieved a sufficiently unstable or unsustainable condition.