Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

[stefano]

The Arab lads are innocent, the younger one has already been to a police station to clear his name, as mentioned upthread I think.

http://www.reddit.com/r/findbostonbombers

The bearded white guy looks somewhat likely, but I reckon it'll end up coming out that the bombers weren't on camera near the time of the attack.

[8bitagent]

The bearded white guy looks somewhat likely, but I reckon it'll end up coming out that the bombers weren't on camera near the time of the attack.

I was thinking that too. This whole mass social media project everyone online is sharing in, a communal Where's Waldo could all be a red herring. I mean yeah, if you're going to do this sort of plot,
you're gonna wanna make sure noone moves your backpack. But still, you don't wanna be NEAR when the thing goes off.

One thing the media and pretty much noone has mentioned: Virtually all the "Islamic" terror plots involve men WILLING TO DIE. Suicide bombers. 9/11, Shoebomber, Underwear bomber, etc.
With 7/7, whether they were dupes or not, the men died with their backpacks. Here, if it is involving "jihadis" they sure arent willing to die for the cause.


19:00 minute mark, heh "This is like Oklahoma City, except having the other six people with Mcveigh on video"

Alex does bring up a good point, that it'd be pretty ingenius if whoever was behind this purposefully had a number of decoy men with the same black backpacks to muddy the waters and confuse.
Like a firing squad but only one gun fires...or more like in movies where the bank robber has everyone both hostage and perp dress in the same jumpsuit and mask as they're escaping.

[elfismiles]

Ben Swann Reality Check: Did the FBI know about Boston bombing beforehand?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjW03McCgfw

[wordspeak2]

Here's the latest image from 4chan. The sketchy Marine-type duded are speculated to be members of Craft Security, the late Chris Kyle's enterprise. There's an image of one dude running with someone that's speculated to be a detonator. Raised my eyebrows. This is the top thread on Reddit's conspiracy forum right now, a better place for legit breaking shit than the major forums (reddit.com/r/conspiracy):

http://imgur.com/a08hNAx

[FourthBase]

Here's the latest image from 4chan. The sketchy Marine-type duded are speculated to be members of Craft Security, the late Chris Kyle's enterprise. There's an image of one dude running with someone that's speculated to be a detonator. Raised my eyebrows. This is the top thread on Reddit's conspiracy forum right now, a better place for legit breaking shit than the major forums (reddit.com/r/conspiracy):

http://imgur.com/a08hNAx

A better place for legit breaking shit than the news and maybe the official investigators, too. But hey, just in case this is applicable to anyone, let's not freak out or get depressed over whoever the perps are getting away with it, let's wait and see if what's happening here is not precisely that the internet sleuths are forcing the authorities' hands, fucking up anyone's plans to feed us propaganda, fucking up maybe some strategy of tension, fucking up maybe a whole shadow government's agenda. To be determined.

As long as people note that there is such a thing as a Punisher logo, then fuck yeah, internet sleuths: Let's turn those dudes' lives upside down and shake vigorously and see what falls out their pockets. Every tree, bark bark bark. Every ball in the air. Seems to be six to eight particular trees/balls in that particular image, near the bottom, in a crew, or perhaps it should be referred to as a cell. If they're innocent, if they're patriots, if they're heroes, if they had nothing to do with the attack, then let's hear it from their mouths. They have every opportunity to clear their names. This is no lynch mob, this is no witch hunt. This is a bunch of random people on the internet cutting, pasting, and drawing pixelated circles and arrows. If it had been me in some 4chan pic, circled and arrowed, I would gladly, bravely, proudly come forward to clear my name, with 100% full disclosure, directly to the internet.

[ShinShinKid]

So I haven't checked on the Waco explosion thread...but this is getting very strange indeed. Are we witnessing the rise of the 4th Reich? The GIF with what looks like a warhead flying into the fertilizer plant...
If this isn't an accident, it reeks of classic diversionary tactics.

[yathrib]

It's a thin line between law enforcement and the far right. I find it hard to believe anything could take place on the right without some FBI or police agent adjacent to it, at least. As for the "wrong city to f**k with," I just take that as a meaningless pep talk. They f**ked with a lot of people. Killed some, and crippled others for life. What's the city going to do to them? All of us are just sitting ducks for the sociopaths--official or freelance-- and fanatics out there, and there's nothing we can do about it.

[Rory]

Watched TV, seeing and hearing the anthem tonight as performed by 15,000 or so Bruins fans. It made me think of that chant in the song I love Fearless by Pink Floyd, the chant for years something I mistook as haunting foreign-language reverse-speech found audio, lol, I really had no idea. I've vaguely known in recent years that it's the Liverpool FC song, not at all in reverse, and in English believe it or not. Never bothered to look up the song or lyrics. Did tonight. What a beautiful song. Sung so madly and emotionally by so many grown men! What a beautiful choice for fan unity and team spirit. Choked me up, to be honest, thinking about Monday.

For years I wondered, vaguely, which English club would be the real equivalent of the Red Sox. Arsenal was posited, explicitly, as the Sox were the substitute in our Fever Pitch. Then there's Manchester City, they of the recent miracle comeback or something after years of disappointment. I'm well aware that Manchester United is to be despised, they are the Yankees. And then Liverpool, which kind of seemed like it was being pushed on us the last few years as our sister club, since the Sox owner bought Liverpool. But that song, by god, yes. Puts our faddish Sweet Caroline to shame, although I do love Sweet Caroline, unlike many of my snobbier fellow Sox fan nerds. You'll Never Walk Alone. Beautiful.

And so then I looked up Liverpool on wikipedia, and noticed that Hillsborough thing that someone had linked to once as an example of massive blatant coordinated deception on the part of the government, law enforcement, and the media -- and boy was it ever! -- thankfully rectified for good just a few months ago, I guess. Still many sons of bitches who deserve a comeuppance, but at least the fans are finally, thoroughly vindicated. And then, I noticed the date. April 15th.

Needless to say, I'm now a Liverpool fan for life, whenever I happen to remember there's such a sport as soccer or whatever it's supposed to be called. Just kidding. It's a great sport, especially as far as sports that could be played without much dropoff by the armless and handless go. Just kidding. A beautiful game. A beautiful song. April 15th. Noticed that opposing fans did the same back then, sing their rivals' song. I guess there's a template. Still, that kind of thing moves me.

Welcome to LFC

i and many liverpool fans are very fond of 'fearless', also

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/ind ... c=298338.0





JFT96 - JusticeForThe 96 who died at Hillsborough.

[seemslikeadream]

^^^^^


Sun's Hillsborough front page

[FourthBase]

It's a thin line between law enforcement and the far right. I find it hard to believe anything could take place on the right without some FBI or police agent adjacent to it, at least. As for the "wrong city to f**k with," I just take that as a meaningless pep talk. They f**ked with a lot of people. Killed some, and crippled others for life. What's the city going to do to them? All of us are just sitting ducks for the sociopaths--official or freelance-- and fanatics out there, and there's nothing we can do about it.

Good point about law enforcement and the far right!

But...

Booooooooo to everything else you said. Fuck those sentiments, fuck that interpretation.
Nothing personal, it's just that "there's nothing we can do about it" is unacceptable, intolerable, false.

[elfismiles]

FB, this (and another post of yours recently - in a diff thread I think) made me finally realize that you were referring to yourself in what was I think your first ref to facebook postings of premonitions. I did not get the first time that it was yourself you were referring to.

Shit, a tiny part of me wonders what people might have thought of a husky, pale white guy with a shoddy wiffle haircut wearing a bulky black backpack (full of notes only) and a thousand-yard stare, smoking a cigarette near one of the explosions, what kind of red circles would be drawn. In other words: ME, if I had taken that job and taken a smoke break to catch some of the marathon. Would a piece of shit like Thorndike be casting aspersions on me? (Would I be dead? Limbless?) Would there be a report headlined "Officials investigating a white male with an online history of professing anti-American conspiracy theories", or some such shit? Would someone have tried to make me a patsy? Again, I direct you all to my premonition. It was just an intuition, but was it ever. Iamwhomiam can attest to my describing the deja vu I experienced at the interview for the job. JackRiddler can attest to my generalized paranoia and anxiety, but not too generalized because I did mention my fear of Boston being a terrorist target. Those aren't even the two best instances of my having told someone my premonition. People, I may be myself...a noteworthy story. "Link?" Me. I'm a link. If the company that offered me the job is mentioned even once in relation to this attack, I might just literally piss myself.

[nashvillebrook]

This is quite a hard-hitting segment for local TV news. Kudos to the station and the reporter, Ben Swann, for breaking out of the mold. And thanks for posting elfismiles!

Ben Swann Reality Check: Did the FBI know about Boston bombing beforehand?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjW03McCgfw

[Julian the Apostate]

Surprised there hasn’t been more talk about the weirdness at the Moakley courthouse – or maybe I missed it. A close friend works across the street and watched it all happen. She started observing the scene after the rumor that someone had been arrested, which turned out later to be false. There was already a heavy police presence, and then the Feds started showing up in force – FBI, FEMA, DHS, etc were all there. It looked like they were bringing someone to the courthouse, which made sense to her at the time because she was still thinking that someone had been arrested. Then the news vans started showing up, and a big crowd congregated. About an hour later the bomb threat happened. The alphabet soup agencies started moving everyone away from the courthouse, including the news folks, and people came running out. Then, after the area was clear of news and civilians, a vehicle with an escort drove up to the side of the courthouse. She couldn’t see what it was doing there. Then she noticed a news report later in the day that said a judge magistrate had gone into the courthouse around 4pm.

It could be that the bomb threat was just a ruse, or maybe never even really happened, to get everyone away from the building. If they had in fact arrested someone, but didn’t want anyone to know about it yet. Whatever the real story is, I think a lot more happened there yesterday than we understand at this point…

[General Patton]

Surprised there hasn’t been more talk about the weirdness at the Moakley courthouse – or maybe I missed it. A close friend works across the street and watched it all happen. She started observing the scene after the rumor that someone had been arrested, which turned out later to be false. There was already a heavy police presence, and then the Feds started showing up in force – FBI, FEMA, DHS, etc were all there. It looked like they were bringing someone to the courthouse, which made sense to her at the time because she was still thinking that someone had been arrested. Then the news vans started showing up, and a big crowd congregated. About an hour later the bomb threat happened. The alphabet soup agencies started moving everyone away from the courthouse, including the news folks, and people came running out. Then, after the area was clear of news and civilians, a vehicle with an escort drove up to the side of the courthouse. She couldn’t see what it was doing there. Then she noticed a news report later in the day that said a judge magistrate had gone into the courthouse around 4pm.

It could be that the bomb threat was just a ruse, or maybe never even really happened, to get everyone away from the building. If they had in fact arrested someone, but didn’t want anyone to know about it yet. Whatever the real story is, I think a lot more happened there yesterday than we understand at this point…

Here is a partial timeline
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=36259&start=225#p498031

[Julian the Apostate]

Woops, my bad Julian. Director, not Grandmaster. Can you expound on the differences?

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/kevin-j-willis/b/632/7a7

Kevin J. Willis's Overview

Director
Grand Lodge of Masons in Massachusetts
December 2011 – Present (1 year 5 months) Boston

Governing body of the oldest Grand Lodge of Free and Accepted Masons in the western hemisphere, established in 1733.
Trusts and Estates Lawyer
Ropes & Gray LLP
Partnership; 1001-5000 employees; Law Practice industry
1995 – Present (18 years)

Estate planning, estate settlement, trust administration, conservatorship and guardianship, probate litigation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Lodg ... sachusetts

(I wonder if he does any of the firm's work for Romney. Glad I'll never know.)

“Director” is not a masonic title per se. He is a member of the board of directors of Grand Lodge. This has nothing to do and is completely separate from any Masonic offices he holds, although the Board of Directors of Grand Lodge, as you can imagine, tends to be comprised of the more accomplished masons.