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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby Iamwhomiam » Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:53 pm

JackRiddler » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:22 pm wrote:
me wrote:Damn Hai-kuh buy-er
Why you want se-ven to stay
But only five to go?


ARRRRRRRRRGH IT'S SIX AGAIN!!!


Episode III ! Revenge of the Six.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby Searcher08 » Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:08 pm

Iamwhomiam » Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:53 pm wrote:
JackRiddler » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:22 pm wrote:
me wrote:Damn Hai-kuh buy-er
Why you want se-ven to stay
But only five to go?


ARRRRRRRRRGH IT'S SIX AGAIN!!!


Episode III ! Revenge of the Six.


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See the jet in the sky???
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:30 pm

The zombie plane theory(AKA Payne Stewart/Helios) Really hoping it's this. As I just don't get a nefarious vibe from the two pilots
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby justdrew » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:47 pm

Image

looks like a hand holding a gun like object, white sleeves, black coat, cufflinks. wtf
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:17 pm

Clever Drew.

Though in Blow Up for all the obsessive mystery the protagonist did find out all the salient points of what happened, and it was shocking and unusual and significant and a worthy puzzle. He just didn't get very far on the Why.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby justdrew » Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:46 pm

:rofl2 OMG. I got all thru colorizing it before I even LOOKED at the damn file name :wallhead: :eeyaa :partyhat

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yes, I ACTUALLY was thinking that was supposed to be a image of the "wreckage"

Skimming too fast, it could happen to anyone. anyone. anyone... :starz:

:moresarcasm

but the important things is... I WAS RIGHT! it is a guy holding a gun.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby divideandconquer » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:07 am

Given the bizarre and confusing 24/7 mainstream media coverage since the plane’s "disappearance", not to mention, the extraordinary tracking/surveillance technology that's been available since the 1960s, I'm inclined to believe that this is a very distracting, while at the same time, beta-testing/preconditioning/programming--maybe to establish it as "fact" that airplanes can just disappear --event. You can't tell me that the enlightened, self-serving, super-elite globalists have no idea what's going on here.

Granted, I know very little about satellite and radar technology, but someone from another forum said:
CIA should have master access to the region's ATC radar. Using its satellites CIA's computers could separate out the known traffic and isolate the specific heat signature of an unidentified 777 in about 10 seconds. It makes sense that since they had 7 hours to react that CIA would bring their best technology to bear. I find it unbelievable that they wouldn't have known exactly where Flight 370 was all considered. Heat signature satellite is simple technology by today's standards and something that couldn't be switched-off. The transponder being turned-off would actually aid location of the errant aircraft in these circumstances since it would then stand-out against those with their transponders on.

followed by:
Military assumes threat aircraft are going to be non-transponder bogies. Therefore they have heat signature satellite detection. CIA could easily access ATC radar and its computers could combine that image with their spy satellite heat signature image and sort out, in about ten seconds, which unidentified bogey matched an errant 777. Especially with such an eccentric South Indian Ocean track.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:57 am

divideandconquer » Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:07 pm wrote:
CIA should have master access to the region's ATC radar.


Should? Does it?

Using its satellites CIA's computers could separate out the known traffic and isolate the specific heat signature of an unidentified 777 in about 10 seconds.


Could they? (Why CIA in particular, not military?)

It makes sense that since they had 7 hours to react that CIA would bring their best technology to bear.


Were they brought in during the 7 hours?

I find it unbelievable that they wouldn't have known exactly where Flight 370 was all considered.


You find it?

Heat signature satellite is simple technology by today's standards and something that couldn't be switched-off.


Even if it is, has it been deployed? If it has, does it cover all the globe?

The transponder being turned-off would actually aid location of the errant aircraft in these circumstances since it would then stand-out against those with their transponders on.


Even if all above applies, and therefore an accompanying software that displays all planes over oceans by heat signature and separates them out from planes with signals is possible, has someone actually coded all this and implemented it for the CIA? How do you know this?

The second comment is a repeat of the assumptions, without the assumptions marked as above.

Military assumes threat aircraft are going to be non-transponder bogies. Therefore they have heat signature satellite detection.


Therefore? Is this an established thing, an actual system already deployed? How would I see evidence of that in documentation? (If said documentation is declassified, assuming.)

CIA could easily access ATC radar and its computers could combine that image with their spy satellite heat signature image and sort out, in about ten seconds, which unidentified bogey matched an errant 777. Especially with such an eccentric South Indian Ocean track.


Again, assuming such a satellite system for full global heat signature coverage is set up, software already written. Not implausible, just full of assertion.

And would there be no countermeasures? Also going back to original: do they have smooth real-time access to region's air traffic control radar displays?
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby Lord Balto » Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:18 am

justdrew » Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:46 pm wrote::rofl2 OMG. I got all thru colorizing it before I even LOOKED at the damn file name :wallhead: :eeyaa :partyhat

Image

yes, I ACTUALLY was thinking that was supposed to be a image of the "wreckage"

Skimming too fast, it could happen to anyone. anyone. anyone... :starz:

:moresarcasm

but the important things is... I WAS RIGHT! it is a guy holding a gun.


Funny, I never noticed the scope. In fact, in the actual film, it just looked like a handgun. The long barrel went right past me.

OK, here's another one from the film, a bit less obvious. Keep in mind that these only appear after the photographer blows up the images several times (hence the title):

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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby lucky » Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:33 am

Souls floating invisible
are they ever found
secrets, lies sadness
There's holes in the sky where rain gets in
the holes are small
that's why rain is thin.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby semper occultus » Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:40 am

...its actually a blow-up from one of the mising frames of the Zapruder footage....
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby 82_28 » Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:20 am

Man, I wonder what they did before ubiquitous HD, GPS and whatever other available technologies we have at our fingertips now. Whatever my phone knows about me I have no idea, yet it can always tell me how many minutes it is away from where it thinks I am likely headed without me even asking it -- I just "wake it up" and it tells me how many minutes to home/work etc. The satellites are telling it that! Knows where I am going, how far away from it I am and what traffic and shit is like. I didn't even ask for it, yet it effortlessly knows while I have GPS "off". I find it creepy. But it knows where little old me is and I am not a multi-million dollar state of the art airliner filled with important people.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby Lord Balto » Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:10 am

82_28 » Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:20 am wrote:Man, I wonder what they did before ubiquitous HD, GPS and whatever other available technologies we have at our fingertips now. Whatever my phone knows about me I have no idea, yet it can always tell me how many minutes it is away from where it thinks I am likely headed without me even asking it -- I just "wake it up" and it tells me how many minutes to home/work etc. The satellites are telling it that! Knows where I am going, how far away from it I am and what traffic and shit is like. I didn't even ask for it, yet it effortlessly knows while I have GPS "off". I find it creepy. But it knows where little old me is and I am not a multi-million dollar state of the art airliner filled with important people.


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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby beeblebrox » Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:12 am

White rabbit on a web
confused interrogation ensues
the black rat withdraws.

I'm sure I broke the rules, I guess I just don't give a fuck.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane down over Vietnam

Postby beeblebrox » Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:51 am

lucky » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:33 am wrote:Souls floating invisible
are they ever found
secrets, lies sadness


In-tact the plane will be found
relieved of much of her cargo
quite a tale the remainder will halve.
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