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[Floyd Smoots]

Brother John Cleary, you already know that my real name is Alexander Franklin Mutter, and that I reside in the second Portsmouth, the oldest one in North America in olde Virginia. You could be a worthless, wino scam artist masquerading as a person who has been badly slammed in your life by the PTB. However, you could be the genuine article. I strongly suspect the latter, rather than the former, old bloke.<br><br>Send me a personal Ezboard message. I will give you my email address. If you can convince me that you are the "real" John Cleary, and give me your real world mailing address, I will do the following. I am rich only in Heavenly treasures. However, I had a small bit put away for "holiday", as you old U.K. types like to call "vacation".<br><br>It's not much, but if I feel certain that it is really you, I will send you an international money order for $500 dollars American. Sorry, that thanks to the Euro, it's no longer worth as much as it used to be. Why would I do this? Ever heard of "A Man Called Jesus"? I hear your cry, my brother-in-arms. Oh, yes, and the other reason, is that in your cry for justice, YOU HAVE NEVER ASKED FOR ONE FARTHING!!! That, in a large way, is why I, if only I alone, believe your plight is worthwhile and true.<br><br>So, wipe away a small few of those tears, as I wipe away mine now, shed for you, and do what I have asked.<br><br>Your brother in Christ,<br>Saint Alex the Foolish, circa 3rd millennium a.D.<br><br>added on edit: "May God bless us, everyone."....Tiny Tim<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=floydsmoots>Floyd Smoots</A> at: 3/1/06 10:20 pm<br></i>

[Rigorous Intuition]

Ah, this one:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>But how about posters who use a litany of half quotes, misquotes and putting words into peoples mouths et cetera as a pretext for splashing the anti semite/ Fascist slur around ?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>I agree with you, and an example can be found in <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm35.showMessage?topicID=24.topic">this fire pitted thread</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> regarding splashing anti-semite/fascist slurs without foundation. <p></p><i></i>

[slimmouse]

<br><br> I really mean that. Concentrate on the blog. There are over 400 intelligent folks here, who, if even half of them are using their intelligence should be capable of pointing out the everyday lies they are being fed.<br><br> And 2.4 million hits to date, with a number of syndicates.<br><br> Which means , how many people are actually reading the real news ?<br><br> That should keep the liars busy ! <p></p><i></i>

[NewKid]

Does the fire pit have a lid on it? How did this stuff get into the main discussion area?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Floyd Smoots]

Just one page........ <p></p><i></i>

[antiaristo]

Floyd,<br>You are a lovely man.<br>But I am not asking for contributions.<br>That would not solve the problem.<br>What about the following month?<br>And the month after that?<br>And on and on.<br><br>Charity is not the answer, however genuine.<br>The answer is for me to be able to become a man once more, and to live up to my responsibilities.<br><br>THAT is what they have done to me.<br><br>But your kind words have done no end of good to my spirits.<br>Thank you. <p></p><i></i>

[Floyd Smoots]

....But brother slimmouse posited 400 members. If all these really truly caring sharing members offered a mere $10 American....Nah, I forgot with whom we are dealing here, but my offer will stand for about 30 days (or so) before my $$$$-needing dearest 30 yr. old daughter manages to weasel it away from me first. Keep the faith, brother. Pray hard and often. It works, as God wills. I was unjustly fired from my sign designer job after twenty years, two months, and three days back in 2003. Seventeen months, and three "intercessors" later, I approached them, hat-in-hand, and literally begged for any sort of position. Thank God, and God, alone, I am now once again, the Art Director of that selfsame electric sign company. in the celestial stock market, never short-sell El Shaddai, Hebraic for God Almighty. He sees, He hears, He CARES!!! Trust me on this one, brother. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <p></p><i></i>

[professorpan]

I agree with Dream's End... this board has crossed over into hyperabsurdity. <br><br>Now a paranoid clique is casting aspersions on Jeff, because he's:<br><br>1. Canadian<br>2. Has a family<br><br>My god, he must be compromised by the Illuminati Overlords/Jewish mafia!<br><br>The lunatics have taken over the asylum.<br><br>I'm appalled that Jeff's integrity is now being questioned. If you think Jeff is compromised, I'd suggest you go the fuck elsewhere. Really. Fuck off. You have no right tarring the guy who pays for this board if you use it to defame him and post your vitriolic, unfounded, asinine bullshit.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Floyd Smoots]

Ol' Floyd really is a whiner, so here's his whine (sans cheese): Well I guess that last post really got the stray-cat-at-the-back-door's head stomped. Charity (Old English for Love), w'ut 'na hell'z 'at??? Awww, shucks, folks, ah kin reely feel th' luv' 'n' care heer. Mebbe, ah'll jist ask some of my "Hebrewic" fr'en's ta he'p. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <p></p><i></i>

[professorpan]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>pan,<br>If it's all so irrelevant, why get so agitated?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Because I hate to see an interesting board die. Which is what I see happening as we speak.<br><br>Because there are plenty of sane, rational, inquisitive people who post quality information and analysis that I truly value, but the semi-coherent paranoiacs and race baiters are doing their best to burn the board down.<br><br>And because I have a deep respect for Jeff and everything he has done to try to carve out a niche for people to talk to one another. And I'm especially pissed off because even his motives are being called into question and his integrity is being maligned. What I see certain people doing is the equivalent of being invited into someone's house, eating a dinner they've prepared for you, and shitting on their floor because you didn't like the dessert.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>If it's all so irrelevant, why the need to cheat?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Huh? If you're still harping on my criticism of your word choice (Jewish banker), and that's somehow "cheating," you're hopeless. Or is it Qutb's missing comma you're still frothing at the mouth about?<br><br>Yes, Anti, we're all part of an organized plot to make your life miserable.<br><br>Oh, and the "martyr of the Royal Family" routine is getting a bit stale. Maybe you should plant some orgonite rods near Buckingham Palace and just be done with it.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Floyd Smoots]

....Hey, professorpan, there were NO aspersions cast on Jeff or his family by me. And, given certain laws of far too many so-called enlightened countries today, it is not a foolish thought to posit that Jeff owes his first loyalty to the safety and well-being of his nuclear family. Please explain to me what in the world is paranoid about putting your closest blood family first, and everyone else, especially you and me, next-to-last.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>My god, he must be compromised by the Illuminati Overlords/Jewish mafia!<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I only quote your satiric little line because it makes the God in whom you profess so strongly not to believe, not only laugh, but it makes those of us who do believe in him want to, but in this thread, REFUSE TO, play the J-card on you. J's are okay by you, even me, (and the non-existent Jesus), but anyone else, of any religious stripe is fair game for your electronic, sharp-witted, blood-stained cyber-laser/razor. I think your screen name correctly identifies your little "g' god.<br><br>You want to talk about Human Integrity? Fine! Here it is in a nutshell. And, THIS IS NOT any kind of threat from me. I don't know you. I don't know where you live, etc., BUT if someone from a powerful government agency approached me and said this: "We will give you his real name and location. We want you to kill him. If you don't, we will kill most of your family.", after thinking it over long and hard, my truthful response would be: "Aw, can't I just punch him in the nose a couple of times, and you guys and me can just call it square?". BUT, many people out in the real world would carry out requests/orders/demands of that sort if they truly felt their immediate family in danger. I don't accuse Jeff of feeling this way, I only accuse Jeff here of doing his best to be a good husband, father, and bloghost.<br><br>One other did accuse; I defended, BUT you artfully (fartfully?) mixed the words, thoughts, and feelings from BOTH posts to come up with your latest cyber-hurk. You know what, pp, I've told you and the board this before, but I'll say it again. When they come and get both of us foolish freedom-lovers, I hope they put us in adjoining cells. I will make you a believer in hell, if it's only hell on earth.<br><br>What a twisted, blended together, redi-mixed post you bothered us all with!!!<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

No, you know what. I'm not gonna let it go like that. For months I've been often one of the only people calling posters on these cryptofascist conspiracy theories. Sorry if anyone got their feelings hurt but it's important. <br><br>When you do that, you get called names. That's part of the deal here. I've been called Talmud merchant, agent of the NWO, Freemason (look anti, I used the word!) and even told to go and die. By a self professed Christian, no less. <br><br>And it's not just about hating Jews. It's perfectly possible to buy into one of these theories without knowing its origins. I get that. But when someone points out these origins, and you keep posting the same stuff, then you kinda lose that ignorance defense.<br><br>EVERY TIME I have criticized posts including info on Larouche, Heinberg, Mullins, Icke and whoever else, I've included large amounts of original source material from the person in question. So then people complain I'm "wallpapering". Actually, coming from Anti with the single largest number of posts in his OWN thread, (guess that's why they call it "data dump") this made me laugh. At least I'm quoting the people I'm trying to expose and not myself. That's how we Freemasons roll, dog.<br><br>Go do the freaking searches...you'll see it. I got on Hugh's case..because he quoted Larouche approvingly. It took several posts worth of quotes from Larouche himself before Hugh (then Watchful Citizen) and also Robert Reed to see that Larouche is not a good guy. I told watchful I'd ask one time if he was part of the Larouche organization and drop it after he answered. He did, and I did. Seemed gentlemanly enough to me at the time. <br><br>And I'm sorry, Hugh, that you still fail to see the significance of the baseball bats, so let me be clearer so you can understand why this is important. It's not because of some friend..that's just how I confirmed the story. Generally speaking, when people go around beating up the oppositionto the state with baseball bats, they work for the state. Get it? And since Larouche bragged of providing intel to the Reagan administration, I'd say he wasn't even interested in distancing himself from that accusation. <br><br>With a 60,000 square foot publishing house...one wonders where his money comes from. Well, I don't wonder...but some people should.<br><br>I'd also say to some fine posters on here that I sure appreciate others taking the heat I've often taken. Qutb particularly has shown me how to do it with patience and class...He has endured more sustained personal attacks and agent baiting than anyone on this board. Water off a duck's back. You are a zen master, my friend. <br><br>Gouda and both of our "star" people have also given us models of reasoned, logical and well supported discourse, whether or not I always agree with them. Oh, I know, we dont' ALWAYS have to post in that vein, but when putting out theories about very dark stuff, it's good to have some evidence and logic backing you up. And there are others here I'm just coming to know to grab their threads when they open up. Nomo has had some good stuff here recently and chiggerbit...and I also appreciated bio's willingness to put forward the idea that people can be ritually abused or subject of mc type activities AND the illuminati can be misinformation. Yeah, you don't have to accept the latter if you accept the former. <br><br>And lots of others I've enjoyed reading. I don't know what annalivia's situation is...or how she relates to the shifting sceneshifters...but she's not her usual lively self. (She was just a young thin pale soft shy slim slip of a thing then, sauntering, by silvamoonlake...) I may never know exactly who Ruth is, though I'm pretty sure I'd like to). <br><br>And thank you Jeff for finally taking this on directly. I admit I've wanted stronger statements from you in the past, but now I think I am not so sure. The only way to deal with this now is so time intensive that I don't really know how you'll manage. <br><br>And I'm sorry for the personal attacks and attempts to discredit you that will ensue from opening this up publicly. I know you can deal with it, but it still sucks. <br><br>Finally, I'm sorry you used proldic's firepitted thread as an example of how you are "fair and balanced" vis "unsupported slurs of fascist". He had a temper...but what he did was so mild compared to what several of us have let slip by so as not to go whining to you all the time. even just in this thread you see it. The accusations of certain of us "working for the NWO" go unabated and barely disguised. And by the way, congratulations to Qutb who now has more accusations of being an agent than I do. Also, I'm proud of the accusation that he, I and proldic were the same person. I'll take that company, any day. <br><br> We're big boys and girls and we don't need to run to you with every such abuse...but it's sad to see the comparison made between this rather consistent smear campaign and proldic's overzealous attempts to be the only OTHER poster at the time who bothered to take this stuff on. <br><br>And I hope you'll keep it up, Jeff. I notice that you took your link to Jeff Rense off your links list...and I wish you'd do stuff like that a bit more publicly, with some explanation. I think looking into Whatreallyhappened.com would be good as well. I think you are growing and evolving in your views like we all are. I hope I've been a part of that for you...you sure have been for me. (I won't ask you to reconsider the peak oil links...I know I'll never win that debate on this board...but I think that particular topic had some decent debate without involving agent accusations. Mostly.) Special kudos for the very risky posts about Levander and Ramsey Clark and the one on the fascist conspiracy theories. I know those were challenging.<br><br>And I might have to take some issue with Pan...yeah, this board has only a few hundred registered members, but Jeff's blog has millions of hits. This board is one way to get at its credibility. To be honest, if I popped in today for the first time and saw much of this crap I would never have started posting. (save your applause anti and floyd) and I might have ignored Jeff's blog from then on to. Not making the conscious equation that "crazy posters = noncredible blog" but it would be there in the back of my head.<br><br>I don't know the truth behind the big picture. Wish I did. I've gotten some glimpses here...and tried to share some. Anyone who thinks they've got it all figured out is either misled, lying or delusional. The folks in power...they have been able to hold onto it for a reason. They aren't stupid. They don't put their secrets out there for any Joe Blogger to see and they tend to knock off the few who really are getting close. <br><br>I know I'M not that close. All I ever find underneath my questions are more questions.<br><br> oh...but what questions they are..........<br><br>For the record...this isn't a "goodbye forever" post. So I reserve the right to pop in when I feel like it and say hello. But man, I've had enough for now. <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[slimmouse]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I agree with Dream's End... this board has crossed over into hyperabsurdity.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Me too Proffessor Pan.<br><br> Meanwhile, Im fascinated by your choice of name. <br><br> I have a basic grounding on this Goat guy, and all the completely fallacious links with burning in hell in the afterlife, as was subsequently adopted as a control mechanism by the organised religion crowd.<br><br> Thats for the birds of course.<br><br> Some say that Pan is the symbolic manifestation of squaring the circle;<br><br> The freemasonic definition of transforming the Spiritual into the physical?<br><br> NOTE - Nothing implied with regards to your good self !<br><br> But, Whats your take on Pan, Pan ? <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[greencrow0]

My comments are that I don't get into a lot of back and forth with other bloggers...too busy and there's so much going on in the world that it's difficult even to stay current with that...nevermind other people peccadillos.<br><br>I enjoy the format here. I feel comfortable posting something new I found somewhere and seeing the reactions to it....It's very good that way. I don't participate on a lot of forums...just the New York Times 'Iraq in Transition' forum and this one. In order to try and understand the harrowing nightmare we're all living as the US slides into catastrophic economic, social and political ruin and drags the rest of us with it...I feel it's important to go on as many different newsblogs as possible and take a cross section of the viewpoints.<br><br>I go on pravda and a lot of other foreign papers as well....there is no singular truth here. I'm not going to apologize for going on this blog or that blog. Cast the widest net possible and then examine the catch. <br><br>March is supposed to be critical for the world in that Iran is going to open it's OIL bourse on the 20th. The 20th is supposed to be significant for a variety of reasons. I'm just going to keep on checking out as many sites as possible to find out what's coming down the pike. I trust my judgment to cast aside any POV's that aren't 'fair and balanced'.<br><br>That's my comment, anyway. <p></p><i></i>

[professorpan]

Hey Mr. Self-professed "Christian":<br><br>Suggesting that Jeff is not being honest is casting aspersions on him. You're saying he's a liar. He's been quite clear in refuting the accusations about governmental pressure or of bowing to anything other than his own scruples and good judgment. <br><br>By suggesting -- as you and others have -- that he operates out of fear, and isn't being truthful about his motivations, you're accusing him of bending to powerful interests. He's denied it, yet you stick your fingers in your ears and pretend not to hear.<br><br>You're calling him an unprincipled coward. And you're too much of a coward to come right out and say it. <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I only quote your satiric little line because it makes the God in whom you profess so strongly not to believe, not only laugh, but it makes those of us who do believe in him want to, but in this thread, REFUSE TO, play the J-card on you.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>And when -- once -- have I ever said anything about my religious beliefs? You don't know the first thing about my spirituality, yet you presume that you do. Tell me, Floyd, what am I? Come on. And tell me how you know. Are you a remote viewer? Does Jesus tell you?<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>anyone else, of any religious stripe is fair game for your electronic, sharp-witted, blood-stained cyber-laser/razor.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Point to one example where I've ever demeaned Jesus, Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, Confucians, Taoists, or any other religious group. I'll give you a dollar for every example, and you can send it to antiaristo.<br><br>I'll tell you one thing for certain: if you find it amusing to contemplate being locked in a cell with someone you've never met (me), and teaching that person "hell on earth" (which, I presume, means you'd like to inflict physical violence upon me), then I don't want anything to do with your denomination or whatever god you pray to. The Christ I read about never preached beating the shit out of anyone.<br> <p></p><i></i>