Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Moderators: Elvis, DrVolin, Jeff

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:44 pm

mentalgongfu2 » 14 Oct 2017 10:57 wrote:Re: muzzle flashes - how visible are muzzle flashes on the weapons the shooter is said to have used? Is it safe to assume they would be visible from a few hundred feet away longitudinally and 32 floors vertically? I don't know the answer, and this seems a very relevant question. I see a lot of assumptions around the web that the answer is yes to both, but if someone posted anything beyond MacC's close-up of AR-15 shots here, I have missed it. SonicG mentioned 200 yards being a kind of rule of thumb for visibility of such. If the basic physics of such flashes being visible from a specified distance/angle or not, that can either eliminate a lot of claims or support them.

As for the alleged shooter allegedly buying a weapon the day before - maybe he decided ultimately it wasn't useful compared to what he already had. Maybe he practiced with it after purchase and it wasn't what he had hoped.


Except there is no evidence that he went to a range to practice with any guns in at least the last month. And his brother claims he almost never shot his guns at all. So why did he buy the gun then not use it? Yes, maybe he decided to waste his time doing something useless to his upcoming suicide mission. But if he actually felt he had an upcoming suicide mission, that is the only explanation.
stickdog99
 
Posts: 6576
Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:42 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:05 pm

seemslikeadream » 14 Oct 2017 22:09 wrote:she's in it for the money ...as usual

The money and the fame and the ego rush as far as I can tell. She's a vainglorious preener who inserts herself into every story she tells. I strongly question her sense of propriety as well as her ability to connect any dots she discovers. And she is obviously playing to Alex Jones' audience.

However, she is actually driving around Vegas asking some people some pertinent questions. This alone makes her one of the very best and perhaps the very best journalist covering this event. Again, this shows just how far the bar has fallen. I can simultaneously hate her while still admiring some of her now almost defunct old school journalistic tactics.
Last edited by stickdog99 on Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.
stickdog99
 
Posts: 6576
Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:42 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:12 pm

MacCruiskeen » 15 Oct 2017 17:26 wrote:The fact that it was (boo! hiss!) Laura Loomer who found it all out means that:

- Jesus Campos does NOT, after all, have a private armed guard.

- There is, after all, NO unmarked car parked in front of his house.

- Stephen Paddock did NOT, after all, check into the Mandalay a full three days before the cops originally said he had.

We just dreamt it.

(It's vitally important to establish the principle that anything reported by a Bad Person must be denied, even if it turns out to be demonstrably and undeniably true.)


More to the point. We should all question Loomer. But why should we therefore question what she has provided visual evidence of?
stickdog99
 
Posts: 6576
Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:42 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:20 pm

elfismiles » 15 Oct 2017 15:47 wrote:I went to school with the Vegas shooter
Friday, October 13, 2017
By Greg Palast
http://www.gregpalast.com/went-school-vegas-shooter/

Image
Mobile home on tracks, Sun Valley CA, birthplace of the Vegas shooter. From the film The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.


methinks Paddock = Palast = projection
stickdog99
 
Posts: 6576
Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:42 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:28 pm

stickdog99 wrote:
MacCruiskeen » 15 Oct 2017 17:26 wrote:The fact that it was (boo! hiss!) Laura Loomer who found it all out means that:

- Jesus Campos does NOT, after all, have a private armed guard.

- There is, after all, NO unmarked car parked in front of his house.

- Stephen Paddock did NOT, after all, check into the Mandalay a full three days before the cops originally said he had.

We just dreamt it.

(It's vitally important to establish the principle that anything reported by a Bad Person must be denied, even if it turns out to be demonstrably and undeniably true.)


More to the point. We should all question Loomer. But why should we therefore question what she has provided visual evidence of?


Because she is a Bad Person™, therefore she is wrong by definition even when she is demonstrably right. (Just anticipating.)
"Ich kann gar nicht so viel fressen, wie ich kotzen möchte." - Max Liebermann,, Berlin, 1933

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." - Richard Feynman, NYC, 1966

TESTDEMIC ➝ "CASE"DEMIC
User avatar
MacCruiskeen
 
Posts: 10558
Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:47 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:58 pm

Disclaimer: It's the Daily Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... linic.html

Jesus Campos, the hero security guard who was shot in the Las Vegas hotel massacre, checked into a 'quick clinic' after vanishing moments before he was due to speak to the media for the first time since the attack.

The security guard is yet to be interviewed since he was shot by Stephen Paddock on October 1 on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel.

On Thursday, Campos was due to appear at a press conference after being given an award for his bravery but he disappeared.

His union representative revealed on Saturday that Campos was taken to a clinic shortly afterwards but he did not know which.

'Right now I'm just concerned where my member is, and what his condition is. It's highly unusual. I'm hoping everything is OK with him and I'm sure MGM or the union will let (media) know when we hear something,' David Hickey is the president of the Security, Police, and Fire Professionals of America, told Fox 5 Vegas.


According to the latest timeline provided by police detailing the events of October 1, Paddock sprayed 200 rounds into the hallway on the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay, wounding Campos in the leg, six minutes before he unleashed his barrage of bullets on the crowd attending the Route 91 Harvest Festival.

Campos, who was unarmed, survived the shooting and was scheduled to sit down for five TV interviews Thursday night, including one on Fox News, but suddenly vanished.

ABC News reporter Stephanie Wash tweeted Thursday, quoting the president of Campos' labor union: 'We were in a room & we came out & he was gone.'
stickdog99
 
Posts: 6576
Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:42 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:04 pm



Planet Hollywood witness confirms the Bellagio's women's account of multiple shooters.
stickdog99
 
Posts: 6576
Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:42 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:16 pm

Current version of MGM ad capitalizing on tragedy that has 28 accessible comments: https://twitter.com/MGMResortsIntl/stat ... 8933213184

Archived version that had over 300 comments: https://twitter.com/MGMResortsIntl/stat ... 8933213184
stickdog99
 
Posts: 6576
Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:42 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:27 pm

The LVPD Sheriff's FBI handler

On July 28, 2016, FBI Director James B. Comey named Aaron Rouse as the Special Agent in Charge of the Las Vegas Division. Mr. Rouse most recently served as Section Chief in the Counterintelligence Division at FBI Headquarters (FBI HQ).

Mr. Rouse began his career with the FBI in September 1996, and was first assigned to the Washington Field Office (WFO) where he worked violent crime and was on both the Joint Fugitive Task Force and the Violent Crime/Reactive squads.

In July 2002, Mr. Rouse was chosen to join the expanding National Security Branch at WFO and worked the asymmetric threat posed by a top tier threat country.

In January 2005, Mr. Rouse became a Supervisory Special Agent (SSA) in the Counterintelligence Division at FBIHQ and worked as a Program Manager for Counterespionage matters.

In April 2007, Mr. Rouse was selected as the senior liaison to the newly established Community HUMINT Coordination Center at CIA Headquarters. In this position he de-conflicted HUMINT enabled operations worldwide for not only the FBI, but for all federal agencies regarding Counterintelligence, Counterterrorism and Criminal matters.

In April 2009, Mr. Rouse was promoted and served as an SSA and Program Coordinator for Counterintelligence in the Tampa Division.

In January 2013, Mr. Rouse received a promotion and served as the National Security Branch Assistant Special Agent in Charge for the San Antonio Division.

In October 2014, Mr. Rouse was appointed as the Section Chief for the Clandestine Operations Section in the Counterintelligence Division at FBI Headquarters.

On July 28, 2016, FBI Director James B. Comey named Aaron Rouse as the Special Agent in Charge of the Las Vegas Division.


Does the very last appointment strike anyone else as a promotion?
stickdog99
 
Posts: 6576
Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:42 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:35 pm

Another Loomer video in which Loomer inserts herself and acts like an Alex Jones' acolyte, but in which the testimony of eyewitnesses I had never seen before are documented.

https://www.pscp.tv/csthetruth/1gqGvYkdOQaKB
stickdog99
 
Posts: 6576
Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:42 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:54 pm

stickdog99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:27 pm wrote:The LVPD Sheriff's FBI handler

On July 28, 2016, FBI Director James B. Comey named Aaron Rouse as the Special Agent in Charge of the Las Vegas Division. Mr. Rouse most recently served as Section Chief in the Counterintelligence Division at FBI Headquarters (FBI HQ).

Mr. Rouse began his career with the FBI in September 1996, and was first assigned to the Washington Field Office (WFO) where he worked violent crime and was on both the Joint Fugitive Task Force and the Violent Crime/Reactive squads.

In July 2002, Mr. Rouse was chosen to join the expanding National Security Branch at WFO and worked the asymmetric threat posed by a top tier threat country.

In January 2005, Mr. Rouse became a Supervisory Special Agent (SSA) in the Counterintelligence Division at FBIHQ and worked as a Program Manager for Counterespionage matters.

In April 2007, Mr. Rouse was selected as the senior liaison to the newly established Community HUMINT Coordination Center at CIA Headquarters. In this position he de-conflicted HUMINT enabled operations worldwide for not only the FBI, but for all federal agencies regarding Counterintelligence, Counterterrorism and Criminal matters.

In April 2009, Mr. Rouse was promoted and served as an SSA and Program Coordinator for Counterintelligence in the Tampa Division.

In January 2013, Mr. Rouse received a promotion and served as the National Security Branch Assistant Special Agent in Charge for the San Antonio Division.

In October 2014, Mr. Rouse was appointed as the Section Chief for the Clandestine Operations Section in the Counterintelligence Division at FBI Headquarters.

On July 28, 2016, FBI Director James B. Comey named Aaron Rouse as the Special Agent in Charge of the Las Vegas Division.


Does the very last appointment strike anyone else as a promotion?


No, it looks very much like a demotion -- unless they wanted a safe pair of hands for something planned or anticipated in LV. (Note, by contrast, how they explicitly state that he had "received a promotion" in January 2013.)

Note also the very first listed appointment, after his early career in 'Violent Crime' and 'Fugitives':

In July 2002, Mr. Rouse was chosen to join the expanding National Security Branch at WFO [Washington Field Office] and worked the asymmetric threat posed by a top tier threat country.


So, within ten months of 9/11, he was transferred to DC, given international responsibilities, and "chosen to join the expanding National Security Branch". This is a seasoned veteran of the entire War on Terror. He was there almost from the word go, reporting to The Cheney-Bush Gang, and explicitly specialising -- until his appointment as FBI boss in Vegas last year -- in national & international Counterintelligence and Clandestine Operations.

And of course he was also "liaising" with the CIA. I am reminded of the late Michael Ruppert's remark that no one reaches a high position in the FBI who is not also CIA.
Last edited by MacCruiskeen on Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"Ich kann gar nicht so viel fressen, wie ich kotzen möchte." - Max Liebermann,, Berlin, 1933

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." - Richard Feynman, NYC, 1966

TESTDEMIC ➝ "CASE"DEMIC
User avatar
MacCruiskeen
 
Posts: 10558
Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:47 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:59 pm

stickdog99
 
Posts: 6576
Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:42 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Asta » Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:16 pm

Has there been any mention anywhere that someone, anyone noticed falling glass from the 32nd floor windows?

I apologize if this has been brought up in a prior post, but I have not heard any mention of anyone witnessing broken glass raining down in the hotel parking lot or sidewalks or wherever. I find it odd.
Asta
 
Posts: 429
Joined: Mon May 16, 2005 2:48 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:11 pm

MacCruiskeen » 15 Oct 2017 19:54 wrote:
stickdog99 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:27 pm wrote:The LVPD Sheriff's FBI handler

On July 28, 2016, FBI Director James B. Comey named Aaron Rouse as the Special Agent in Charge of the Las Vegas Division. Mr. Rouse most recently served as Section Chief in the Counterintelligence Division at FBI Headquarters (FBI HQ).

Mr. Rouse began his career with the FBI in September 1996, and was first assigned to the Washington Field Office (WFO) where he worked violent crime and was on both the Joint Fugitive Task Force and the Violent Crime/Reactive squads.

In July 2002, Mr. Rouse was chosen to join the expanding National Security Branch at WFO and worked the asymmetric threat posed by a top tier threat country.

In January 2005, Mr. Rouse became a Supervisory Special Agent (SSA) in the Counterintelligence Division at FBIHQ and worked as a Program Manager for Counterespionage matters.

In April 2007, Mr. Rouse was selected as the senior liaison to the newly established Community HUMINT Coordination Center at CIA Headquarters. In this position he de-conflicted HUMINT enabled operations worldwide for not only the FBI, but for all federal agencies regarding Counterintelligence, Counterterrorism and Criminal matters.

In April 2009, Mr. Rouse was promoted and served as an SSA and Program Coordinator for Counterintelligence in the Tampa Division.

In January 2013, Mr. Rouse received a promotion and served as the National Security Branch Assistant Special Agent in Charge for the San Antonio Division.

In October 2014, Mr. Rouse was appointed as the Section Chief for the Clandestine Operations Section in the Counterintelligence Division at FBI Headquarters.

On July 28, 2016, FBI Director James B. Comey named Aaron Rouse as the Special Agent in Charge of the Las Vegas Division.


Does the very last appointment strike anyone else as a promotion?


No, it looks very much like a demotion -- unless they wanted a safe pair of hands for something planned or anticipated in LV. (Note, by contrast, how they explicitly state that he had "received a promotion" in January 2013.)

Note also the very first listed appointment, after his early career in 'Violent Crime' and 'Fugitives':

In July 2002, Mr. Rouse was chosen to join the expanding National Security Branch at WFO [Washington Field Office] and worked the asymmetric threat posed by a top tier threat country.


So, within ten months of 9/11, he was transferred to DC, given international responsibilities, and "chosen to join the expanding National Security Branch". This is a seasoned veteran of the entire War on Terror. He was there almost from the word go, reporting to The Cheney-Bush Gang, and explicitly specialising -- until his appointment as FBI boss in Vegas last year -- in national & international Counterintelligence and Clandestine Operations.

And of course he was also "liaising" with the CIA. I am reminded of the late Michael Ruppert's remark that no one reaches a high position in the FBI who is not also CIA.


Let the coincidence theories commence.
stickdog99
 
Posts: 6576
Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:42 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby elfismiles » Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:32 pm

Hi Asta.

No, I don't believe anyone has posted such important evidence. I know I've not come across anything like that but, yes that is one of the many small detail items I'd like to see/hear about and feel would have already surfaced unless something different happened than has been put forth by msm.

Asta » 15 Oct 2017 20:16 wrote:Has there been any mention anywhere that someone, anyone noticed falling glass from the 32nd floor windows?

I apologize if this has been brought up in a prior post, but I have not heard any mention of anyone witnessing broken glass raining down in the hotel parking lot or sidewalks or wherever. I find it odd.
User avatar
elfismiles
 
Posts: 8512
Joined: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:46 pm
Blog: View Blog (4)

PreviousNext

Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 161 guests